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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22374212 - 10/13/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I did read. They don't have to.

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State Law in Illinois permits emergency vehicles to disregard certain rules regulating the flow and control of the traffic.







exactly.. I thought this line was really clear they can be exempt if they deem it safe it enough... which it did look safe enough since no one was on the road except for someone who shouldn't have been.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374225 - 10/13/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How do you make the determination whether or not someone should  or shouldnt be on a public road?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #22374237 - 10/13/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How do you make the determination whether or not someone should  or shouldnt be on a public road?





You ask yourself.... "Do I think it's a good idea to run across the road when nobody can see me and a car is barreling across the other way"?

If you answered no.... you'd be the percentage of people who survived

If you answered yes... you'd be the guy dead on the street


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #22374240 - 10/13/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How do you make the determination whether or not someone should  or shouldnt be on a public road?




You ask koods. He seems to think his is the final word on all things.

Of course, that makes it all the more amusing when he makes it clear he actually does not.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #22374251 - 10/13/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nice politician style avoidance of a question, both of you, really lol

:billymaythumbup:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #22374280 - 10/13/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A pedestrian should not be in the middle of the road with cars nearby. I don't think we need some E=MC^2 statements to make that anymore obvious.

If you need to cross the road, do it safely :shrug:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374282 - 10/13/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    (d) The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle, other than a police vehicle, shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of either an audible signal when in motion or visual signals meeting the requirements of Section 12-215 of this Act.




police regulation state that officer MUST follow this rule.



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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374295 - 10/13/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
A pedestrian should not be in the middle of the road with cars nearby. I don't think we need some E=MC^2 statements to make that anymore obvious.

If you need to cross the road, do it safely :shrug:




If you need to drive on the road, do it safely


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374305 - 10/13/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
I did read. They don't have to.

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State Law in Illinois permits emergency vehicles to disregard certain rules regulating the flow and control of the traffic.







exactly.. I thought this line was really clear they can be exempt if they deem it safe it enough... which it did look safe enough since no one was on the road except for someone who shouldn't have been.




Jesus Christ. This is the exemption to obeying the speed limit. The stipulation for this exemption is that you use your emergency lights and sirens.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374416 - 10/13/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Glad to see that I've put an end to the debate


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374435 - 10/13/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What... you mean I'm suppose to just sit here and refresh the page over and over to respond to your desperate attempt to "win"?

Yeah, okay koods.

I also don't see the part where it stipends "MUST USE SIRNS/LIGHTS AT ALL TIMES"... maybe you should be quoting where it says exactly that.

:rolleyes:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374458 - 10/13/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I posted the entire fucking law read it and stop being a troll


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374470 - 10/13/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So you can double post to say you "won" but I simply asked for you to show where it says exactly what you said to be true? Really koods?

I am not trolling, what the fuck. I did read it and I didn't see it. So I asked you to show me.

:facepalm:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374476 - 10/13/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374504 - 10/13/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So you can double post to say you "won" but I simply asked for you to show where it says exactly what you said to be true? Really koods?

I am not trolling, what the fuck. I did read it and I didn't see it. So I asked you to show me.

:facepalm:




I guess people need their shit spoon fed to them. This is the internet where people aren't capable of figuring shjt out for themselves

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    (625 ILCS 5/11-205) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-205)
    Sec. 11-205. Public officers and employees to obey Act-Exceptions.
    (a) The provisions of this Chapter applicable to the drivers of vehicles upon the highways shall apply to the drivers of all vehicles owned or operated by the United States, this State or any county, city, town, district or any other political subdivision of the State, except as provided in this Section and subject to such specific exceptions as set forth in this Chapter with reference to authorized emergency vehicles.
    (b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this Section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.
    (c) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:
        1. Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of
   
this Chapter;
        2. Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign,
   
but only after slowing down as may be required and necessary for safe operation;
        3. Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he does
   
not endanger life or property;
        4. Disregard regulations governing direction of
   
movement or turning in specified directions.
    (d) The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle, other than a police vehicle, shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of either an audible signal when in motion or visual signals meeting the requirements of Section 12-215 of this Act.
    (e) The foregoing provisions do not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty of driving with due regard for the safety of all persons, nor do such provisions protect the driver from the consequences of his reckless disregard for the safety of others.
    (f) Unless specifically made applicable, the provisions of this Chapter, except those contained in Section 11-204 and Articles IV and V of this Chapter, shall not apply to persons, motor vehicles and equipment while actually engaged in work upon a highway but shall apply to such persons and vehicles when traveling to or from such work.
(Source: P.A. 89-710, eff. 2-14-97; 90-257, eff. 7-30-97.)




And here are the regulations for officers stating they WILL comply with this section


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Edited by koods (10/13/15 05:19 PM)


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374507 - 10/13/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

(d) The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle, other than a police vehicle, shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of either an audible signal when in motion or visual signals meeting the requirements of Section 12-215 of this Act.

"Other than a police vehicle"......yep... I read it right the first time. Police aren't required.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374516 - 10/13/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Then the police guidelines state they must comply


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374536 - 10/13/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It says to exercise caution and use numerous factors to determine the worth of the perpetrator.

But you're being very aggressive with your posts, so I'm going to back off before I get banned by you or some stupid shit.

Bye. You win. I don't even care.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374554 - 10/13/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yay I win


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22388855 - 10/16/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Then the police guidelines state they must comply




As has been demonstrated to you, there is a police exemption. It's already been pointed out that guidelines are not laws.

Perhaps some day you'll actually win.

You went way above and beyond demonstrating your inability to comprehend the written word. Good for you.

Watching people like you, zappa and endogenous beclown yourselves makes coming here entertaining.


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