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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
#22373940 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: Police aren’t required to use their emergency lights when responding to a crime. They are more hesistant to use it at night in residential areas because its very loud and will wake people up.
He didn't even break a law.
People here are just butthurt or something I don't even know.
That doesn't fit in with the "cops are bad, mkay" narrative.
Are you one of those radicals that wait until you're sure it's safe to cross before heading across a street?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22373941 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just wish the cop had swerved into a tree and died after annihilating the drunk guy...would it even be news then? Probably not.. Also if you havent figured out by now that cops are actually above the law then Idk what to tell you. Unless they are caught red handed on video with audio explaining in elementary terms what happened, they always get out of any charges that may be filed against them, and paid leave ofc. Police in my county are required to enable sirens OR lights when operating at speeds above the posted speed limit, maybe thats not such a bad ordinance?
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
#22373949 - 10/13/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel, flashing lights don't wake up the neighborhood. Nice try though.
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
#22373950 - 10/13/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: No, the pedestrian is not to blame . The cop was speeding, and I think by law going 20mph over the limit is reckless driving. It is also reckless to drive emergency style with the emergency lights off.
Except cops can legally exceed the limit, he wasn't driving recklessly, and the idiot that got hit shares the blame.
But other than that... you're spot on.
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Obviously I can't charge him and when do cops ever get charged anyways? They mostly always get a free pass because they are cops. That is why I was saying that the good cops shouldn't stand for this behavior.
Cops do and have been charged. No-one can help that you missed it.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
#22373956 - 10/13/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: Police aren’t required to use their emergency lights when responding to a crime. They are more hesistant to use it at night in residential areas because its very loud and will wake people up.
He didn't even break a law.
People here are just butthurt or something I don't even know.

so if a cop is speeding down the road, passing through stop signs and red lights, they aren't required to have their lights and sirens on?
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22373959 - 10/13/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are require to have one or the other or both.
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
#22373970 - 10/13/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: They are require to have one or the other or both.
Nope
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
#22373972 - 10/13/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: It does matter how fast the car is going. Speed is the amount of distance covered in a period of time. If you are twice the speed limit it takes half the amount of time to go from point a to point b. It's even harder to judge the amount of time if someone is accelerating towards you.
Again, why wasn't this cop charged with homicide? If a citizen killed someone driving 50 mph over the speed limit they would be in jail.
It's even harder when you're drunk, as said pedestrian was.
A life sentence for vehicular manslaughter would be a walk in the park for this guy; his only other option is an inevitable encounter with Koods' Giant Purple Anal Violator of (intenet vigalante?) Justice..
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
#22373975 - 10/13/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: They are require to have one or the other or both.
You can of course point to the law that mandates that in the state the incident occurred in?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
#22373976 - 10/13/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thjs wasn't even an emergency situation. He drove past a guy he thought might be speeding. He never got a radar on the the guy. That's why he didn't use his lights and sirens. He wanted to be able to clock the guy. Using his lights and siren would obviously cause the guy to drive the speed limit. The cop wasn't interested in public safety, he was interested in writing a nice meaty ticket.
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
#22373978 - 10/13/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said:
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koods said: They are require to have one or the other or both.
Nope

I don't know if you're actually being serious, or just trolling, but you are very wrong
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
#22373980 - 10/13/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said:
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koods said: They are require to have one or the other or both.
Nope
If so, you think this is reasonable? To chase a suspected speeder?
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22373985 - 10/13/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said:
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Uzziel said: Police aren’t required to use their emergency lights when responding to a crime. They are more hesistant to use it at night in residential areas because its very loud and will wake people up.
He didn't even break a law.
People here are just butthurt or something I don't even know.

so if a cop is speeding down the road, passing through stop signs and red lights, they aren't required to have their lights and sirens on?
He didn't go through red lights or stop signs. It was a straight away. Police do this all the time when they want to catch up to a speeder without letting the speeder know they are there.
Police can't just go tumbling through red lights or stop sign without a good reason, no.
Please provide proof that police are required to have one or both on. They certainly do not and they have circumstances they are allowed to pursue without either on.
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22373990 - 10/13/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: They are require to have one or the other or both.
Nope

I don't know if you're actually being serious, or just trolling, but you are very wrong
So post a link to the Illinois state law that requires one or the other to be on.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
#22373994 - 10/13/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Generally cops are not even permitted to engage in high speed chases unless there is a life threatening situation. The only life threatening situation here was the cop driving 100 mph
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
#22374003 - 10/13/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So are you telling me they don't generally go after speeders going twice the speed limit? (at 5 AM no less -----> drunk driver)
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#22374009 - 10/13/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: Of course he violated the law. Speeding, reckless driving, and vehicular manslaughter.
So then charge him... if you can.
Except cops can speed when in pursuit, he wasn't driving recklessly and the pedestrian shares the fault.
But hey, other than that...
Another reason why coppers love people like you. if im a cop im always..... In pursuit whos going to say otherwise???
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
#22374019 - 10/13/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: So are you telling me they don't generally go after speeders going twice the speed limit? (at 5 AM no less -----> drunk driver)
................uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
If i ever become a cop and kill someone cuz i can drive at whatever speed i desire all i have to say is..... Hmmmm bruh? I was in pursuit of a reckless driver. Case closed. You people are naive
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#22374024 - 10/13/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: No, the pedestrian is not to blame . The cop was speeding, and I think by law going 20mph over the limit is reckless driving. It is also reckless to drive emergency style with the emergency lights off.
Except cops can legally exceed the limit, he wasn't driving recklessly, and the idiot that got hit shares the blame.
But other than that... you're spot on.
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Obviously I can't charge him and when do cops ever get charged anyways? They mostly always get a free pass because they are cops. That is why I was saying that the good cops shouldn't stand for this behavior.
Cops do and have been charged. No-one can help that you missed it.
It was reckless. The cop made a mistake and forgot to turn on his emergency lights, or maybe he meant to leave them off. Cops make mistakes too. Do you ever see an ambulance or firetruck driving that fast without lights on? I've seen cops speed a little without lights, but once they get to 10 or 20mph over the limit the lights come on. Maybe it isn't the law, I don't know, but IMO the cop was reckless.
I know cops have been charged in the past, that is why I said mostly. I was making the point that it is rare for a cop to be punished with a sentence that fits the crime, or even convicted at all. They should be held to higher standards and have harsher punishments.
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Kinko]
#22374033 - 10/13/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: So are you telling me they don't generally go after speeders going twice the speed limit? (at 5 AM no less -----> drunk driver)
................uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
If i ever become a cop and kill someone cuz i can drive at whatever speed i desire all i have to say is..... Hmmmm bruh? I was in pursuit of a reckless driver. Case closed. You people are naive
You know all you cop haters seem to have some serious violent issues. Whats up with you guys? For being so against violence you guys sure are violent.
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