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Ghost0420
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PF tek questions and discussion
#22370066 - 10/12/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right, so, I know that after the first flush the cake must be dunked again for 24 hours before being put back into the fruiting chamber for the 2nd flush. However, mushrooms grow to maturity at different rates... What if one does not want to rape the whole cake once, say, half reach maturity. What if one wants to pick off individuals once they individually reach maturity (or abort), will one have to wait till all the mushrooms have reached desired level of maturity (or aborted) and the cake to be blank to proceed to the 2nd dunk or what? Once a mushroom is plucked will another grow back in the same spot? Or will it not grow back until dunked again.
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Dont think too hard about it. When the cake is dry (lift it. If its a lot lighter its dry) dunk it. And yes cut mushrooms off with sterile tools as they become mature or are about to break veil. Once it puts out a few decent sized caps, it may be too dry to bring the others to maturity. You will then have to pull some early.
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*ahem* In my humble opinion.
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It sounds to me like you're asking if you can dunk a cake with mushrooms still on it? Letting them grow to maturity before re-dunking is ideal, and good practice. If you soak the cakes with mushrooms still attached, they will get logged with water, and if they are larger then pins, very soggy. Pins and very small mushrooms can survive it, but it is not recommended. Also, after each dunk rolling the cakes in verm is a good idea.. Having mushrooms attached while doing that would not be ideal.
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psilobob
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if you roll after the first flush you are inviting contams, I wouldn't do that.
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Ghost0420
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How many flushes can cakes go?
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psilobob said: if you roll after the first flush you are inviting contams, I wouldn't do that.
I know that...
Not once did I mention dunking and rolling after the first flush. 
Thanks anyway
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No lie ive gotten 6th flushes from one cake. Just dont let it dry out and die. Average probably 3.5?
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Ghost0420 said: Right, so, I know that after the first flush the cake must be dunked again for 24 hours before being put back into the fruiting chamber for the 2nd flush. However, mushrooms grow to maturity at different rates... What if one does not want to rape the whole cake once, say, half reach maturity. What if one wants to pick off individuals once they individually reach maturity (or abort), will one have to wait till all the mushrooms have reached desired level of maturity (or aborted) and the cake to be blank to proceed to the 2nd dunk or what? Once a mushroom is plucked will another grow back in the same spot? Or will it not grow back until dunked again.
i would pick as they are ready and if ya feel they could use soem water simply put some water in a saucer and sit your cakes on those over night. once a fruit is plucked more will grow not in the same spot but on the cake somewhere
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Ghost0420
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TreeFace said: It sounds to me like you're asking if you can dunk a cake with mushrooms still on it? Letting them grow to maturity before re-dunking is ideal, and good practice. If you soak the cakes with mushrooms still attached, they will get logged with water, and if they are larger then pins, very soggy. Pins and very small mushrooms can survive it, but it is not recommended. Also, after each dunk rolling the cakes in verm is a good idea.. Having mushrooms attached while doing that would not be ideal.
Nah brother, you have misunderstood me
Also, I KNOW you do not roll after the first flush, only dunk, I KNOW THAT 
I'm asking if you can wait till each mushroom reaches maturity and pluck them off individually as they mature at different rates before the 2nd dunk. Understand? Thank's for all you guys help, I do appreciate it
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Ghost0420
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Lofetospoon9 said: No lie ive gotten 6th flushes from one cake. Just don't let it dry out and die. Average probably 3.5?
Wicked! Is each flush as fruitful as the first of does the total mass of each flush descend over each following flush?
Do you dunk your cakes for 24hrs after each flush?
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Ghost0420
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TreeFace said: Also, after each dunk rolling the cakes in verm is a good idea..
Uhmmmmmmmmmm............
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TreeFace


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Nah brother, you have misunderstood me
I'm asking if you can wait till each mushroom reaches maturity and pluck them off individually as they mature at different rates before the 2nd dunk. Understand? Thank's for all you guys help, I do appreciate it 
Yeah, sorry for that. I read your first post completely different  But yes, you can absolutely do that
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Ghost0420 said:
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Lofetospoon9 said: No lie ive gotten 6th flushes from one cake. Just don't let it dry out and die. Average probably 3.5?
Wicked! Is each flush as fruitful as the first of does the total mass of each flush descend over each following flush?
Do you dunk your cakes for 24hrs after each flush?
remember cakes do not know the meaning of flush , that is a human term so it's not always good to have to go 6 flushes, if i cna get 7.5 grams out of 3 flushes and he only pulls five from his six it isnt' genetics doing this it's conditions
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Re: PF tek help [Re: cronicr]
#22370334 - 10/12/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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TreeFace said: Also, after each dunk rolling the cakes in verm is a good idea..
cronicr?
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cronicr



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no it's never a good idea, thousands of mold spores have landed on your cake now so a re roll just gives those spores a great climate
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Re: PF tek help [Re: cronicr]
#22370353 - 10/12/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: no it's never a good idea, thousands of mold spores have landed on your cake now so a re roll just gives those spores a great climate
Knew it!
Now back on topic.
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Ghost0420
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Re: PF tek help [Re: cronicr]
#22370360 - 10/12/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lofetospoon9 said: No lie ive gotten 6th flushes from one cake. Just don't let it dry out and die. Average probably 3.5?
Wicked! Is each flush as fruitful as the first of does the total mass of each flush descend over each following flush?
Do you dunk your cakes for 24hrs after each flush?
remember cakes do not know the meaning of flush , that is a human term so it's not always good to have to go 6 flushes, if i cna get 7.5 grams out of 3 flushes and he only pulls five from his six it isnt' genetics doing this it's conditions
Please rephrase this, I actually don't understand what you mean.
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Ghost0420 said:
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psilobob said: if you roll after the first flush you are inviting contams, I wouldn't do that.
I know that...
Not once did I mention dunking and rolling after the first flush. 
Thanks anyway
This is why you read all the posts in order before replying to any of them. Cron means what he said. Cakes don't know a magic number of flushes where they're going to stop. If you are still getting mushrooms more than 5-6 flushes in that means you could really improve your technique toward getting all of it in the first 2-3 flushes. 6 flushes totalling to 7.5 grams isn't noteworthy if 3 flushes can put out 12 grams.
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Ghost0420
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Inocuole said: This is why you read all the posts in order before replying to any of them. Cron means what he said. Cakes don't know a magic number of flushes where they're going to stop. If you are still getting mushrooms more than 5-6 flushes in that means you could really improve your technique toward getting all of it in the first 2-3 flushes. 6 flushes totalling to 7.5 grams isn't noteworthy if 3 flushes can put out 12 grams.
Ok now I understand, I just did not understand what cron meant coz his wording did not make sense to me
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