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InvisibleTheHateCamel
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Humans are a creation of God.
    #2236937 - 01/12/04 01:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Christianity depicts humans as the creation of God.

What other religions do or do not do this?


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2237149 - 01/12/04 03:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Judaism?


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2238855 - 01/13/04 12:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

In the religious mythology of Sumeria (the first religion of man from which all religions follow or are borrowed) man was a creation of the godS. There were gods like Enlil, the 2nd highest ranked god who wanted "mankind" to be a slave race in service of the gods. There were gods like the benefactor god Enki who wished to bestow knowledge and autonomy unto man to make him free and expand his potential.
The creation myth of Christianity involves character gods like Yahweh who were amalgamations of deities from other cultures. The serpent in the Garden of Eden is modeled in some aspects after the Sumerian god Enki who was mankind's benefactor. "The serpent" (in Sumerian texts Enki was represented by the serpent) aimed to increase the knowledge of man (by convincing him to eat of the fruit of the tree of life). The Judeo-Chrisitan creation myth is really quite schizophrenic. I can go more into depth if you wish, though i'm still discovering.


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2240422 - 01/14/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Does or does not?

If someone could type out a a few of each that would be great.

Thanks. :grin:


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: Viveka]
    #2240449 - 01/14/04 12:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

EvilEye? said:
The Judeo-Chrisitan creation myth is really quite schizophrenic.




Explain?


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2242001 - 01/14/04 05:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No one can answer the question or no one has the time?


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2242200 - 01/14/04 06:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All religions have god or gods and we are always their creation.

Definition. Religion : Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
There are others but this is the prime definition. Besides - regarding your statement - it directly refers to the act of creation.

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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: MAIA]
    #2245637 - 01/16/04 08:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Is Buddhism not a religion?


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2246217 - 01/16/04 03:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I tend to adhere to a different definition of religion:

THe idea of having a normative order to the universe (a set of ontological claims), and that we have a place in the order. Then there is a soteriological path that the religion offers, that relieves the tension between how things are, and how they should be.

THerefore, Buddhism could easily be called a religion, even bushido.

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"Without a firm idea of himself and the purpose of his life, man cannot live, and would sooner destroy himself than remain on earth, even if he was surrounded by bread."
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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2246491 - 01/16/04 05:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My views claim the opposite - that God is a creation of humans :wink:


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: Strumpling]
    #2247061 - 01/16/04 09:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i think the reason hes saying the christian view of the serpent as the source of evil iis schizophrenic is because the serpent really is just humanity, or conciousness. That is it was the serpent (or enki) who bestowed humanity with a sentient mind (knowledge of good and evil) and from this sprung all evil. In other words to revile the serpent is to revile ourselves, to be an enemy of the serpent is to take the side of the repressor over the liberator. It was god who forbade eating from the tree and wanted to keep us less than sentient, like the other animals. it was the serpent, (enki) who wanted us to expand our potential and become gods in our own right. Well it cannot be refuted that without humanity (conciousness) evil wouldnt exist (we dont call ants killing each other evil, but a person killing a person is) it also cannot be refuted that without conciousness humanity would not exist. SO to hate the serpent is to hate yourself, which is a non-affirming, negative and self defeating mythology on which to base your life, resulting in monks who self flagellate themselves and children being instilled with fear of divine retribution, lakes of fire and brimstone and guilt for their 'original sin'. if someone not protected by the sheer numbers of like minded religious folks whipped himself, feared that an invisible presence was punishing him or whatever, we would indeed diagnose him with schizophrenia, or some other form of mental illness.


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Re: Humans are a creation of God. [Re: MAIA]
    #2248469 - 01/17/04 03:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So without a god or gods a set of beliefs and values couldn't be considered a religion?


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