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makaveli8x8
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First world problem need advice 1
#22369260 - 10/12/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yah so i have a big delemma here. I wanted to get a vacuum sealer since i started hunting n stuff and planned to butcher the animals myself to save money. I figuered if i have to gut them i might as well butcher them too as my hands would already balls deep.
So i started looking at vacuum sealers, then read reviews of them queefing out after a year, so the cheap ones are just like throwing money out the window plus alot of them only handle tiny bags. Then i started looking at the expensive ones like LEM's, cabela, weston, vacmaster. Right so, those are pretty expensive ones like $400 for the lem, $350 for the cabela, cabela had pump issues in the past and supposedly fixed them but that puts reliablity into question. So eventually i settled on the LEM.
Then i started looking into the bags to go with it and i quickly realized im going to be constantly wondering if what im bagging is going to be worth the cost of a bag, since its like $30 for 50-100 bags. I have found a few other suppliers closer to $15, but then they charge like $11 for shipping, other places charge to not such how much but point being the bags are horribly expensive.
You also can't vacuum seal liquids which would be really nice, i suppose you could freeze the stuff first but that would take alot of freezer space to setup and very time consuming.
So then i started looking into these Chamber vacuum sealers, and those things are pretty neat, they just suck the air out of the chamber with the bag in it, which means you can use really cheap bags, like $30 for 1000 which means i could bag shit all day without giving a fuck.
The downside is the chamber is limited in size, so certain things might not fit in there like bags of dicks. So that has me slightly concerned. The other downfall is the price. The entree models start at $520 but those are pretty shitty ones from the looks of it. There's another at $620 that looks alot nicer but the chamber is a bit smaller and it has a maintence free pump. When you jump up to a rotary pump and a slightly bigger champer you are running $800
 This is the $520 and looks kinda cheap and cheesy
Chamber = 5" x 11" x 12"
 This is the $620 one and it has digital buttons that open and close the chamber which is pretty sweet. But again it has the smaller chamber its only 4" deep
Chamber = 4" x 11" x 11" roughtly

This is the $800 one with rotary pump
Chamber = 5" x 11" x 15"
So basically im worried the cheap one won't last long, the middle one could be too small, and the large one is just godly expensive. But the bags are so dam cheaper tho that will add up over time, and the rotary pump in theory should make it last alot longer than a maintence free pump, but it is $800 which sucks and makes me think back to the LEM. The lem will be great for meat, but i could see being able to bag big pots of chili as pretty nice. $30 for like 50-100 bags tho, that just kills me, idealy id be portioning out the shit i bag like 1 meal per bag, so a big pot of chili or stew id be throwing down alot of bags. But basically if you look at it from a eating point of view 2 meals a day = 2 bags a day x 30 days = 60 bags a month, thats roughly $20-30 a month on bags
Then on the other hand i could end up getting one and then get bored/tired of it and only bag shit once or twice, or only during hunting season
god damit shroomery help me with my first world problems shit is rough out here
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22369391 - 10/12/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: California]
#22370140 - 10/12/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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so your saying i should get the one with the chamber?
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22370196 - 10/12/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get a slightly used one and get the best one. It''ll probably be half the price.
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22370218 - 10/12/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im sorry, did I read "bags of dicks"?
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i was also wondering how hard it would be to build one, i seen vacuum pumps on ebay for like $50......and there's a youtube video of some guy throwing a ziplock bag into a pot, throwing a lid on, and vacuuming it out with one, only catch is sealing the bag he used a ziplock with a magnet which is smart but dumb
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22371173 - 10/12/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Waste of time to build one man. If you get one in the 100-200$ range it will be fine for what you need. If you have the money get a 300-400$ one. You can also look into Mylar bags since they are a lot better then plastic.
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: Gorlax]
#22371369 - 10/12/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My parents have one from Cabelas, it keeps venison so fresh. They also have a Cabelas dehydrator which makes some amazing venison jerky. I'd say just shop around and check out reviews before purchasing one. Base your purchase on the experience of others, imo.
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22371407 - 10/12/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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find a retailer that has each on site, inspect the quality for yourself
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22371439 - 10/12/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats a good idea but prolly hard to track them all down locally, plus i try to never leave the house unless its an emergency, life is so rough out there
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22371447 - 10/13/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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apparently bass proshops carries it, check to see if they have one in stock, buy through amazon
another way to get an idea of the quality of them is the youtube vids, the tiny pics make it look cheesy but in the vids it looks to be a large piece of real estate on a counter top and pretty well built
yeah, I had to look
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22371484 - 10/13/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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amazon has a good customer service and return policy but the prices i listed are much lower than amazons and the sites look fairly legit.
i guess the cheaper one does look nicer in the video, but according to reviews on amazon it is subject to getting tiny air holes in the plastic top. which may or may not have been fixed through revisions. prolly not much of an issue for a DIY'er who knows how to use epoxy tho. Apparently that model uses the same motor as the vp210, still a maintence free one wish i knew how long those would last. i try to buy things just once, so tired of chinese shit speaking of which i heard all of those models are made in china now but they look fairly well built anyway
guessing you were interested in them too eh?
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22373361 - 10/13/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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damit! i had this nice dented minipack spotted on ebay it was $500 then the 15 minutes some asshole put a $900 bid on the dam thing wtf like he didn't even wait to ninja it  
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22373444 - 10/13/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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omg loony toons, shit sold for $1775 thats so stupid, granted its like $2.2k new but it was dented and looked like someone cut around the serial plate and who knows how old it was, plus a chef owned it so it would have been worked really hard i honestly didn't think it would break $1k. It always irks me these people who bid anywhere over the last 10 mintues, surely they know they will get outbid so all they accomplished was to jack the price up. Its just like at that price you might as well get a new one so you don't have to worry about if the pump oil was ever changed
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22373724 - 10/13/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not for nothing but when I was deer hunting all I had to do was give a professional butcher the cape and he would cut up and bag everything for the freezer. Butchery is not a dilettante skill.
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jahrastafareye said: Im sorry, did I read "bags of dicks"?
What he said
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: zappaisgod]
#22373859 - 10/13/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Not for nothing but when I was deer hunting all I had to do was give a professional butcher the cape and he would cut up and bag everything for the freezer. Butchery is not a dilettante skill.
yah i considered that but i figuer after 4 seasons of hunting, the butcher costs would add up. i figuer if i invest early ill save tons in the long run. Then again im a pretty shitty hunter so far 2 or 3 seasons hunting and ive seen 2 squirrels when i wasn't hunting squirrels, and 1 baby doe when i WAS hunting squirrels  besides some birds ive seen no other wild life This year i plan to hit it alot harder tho. Previous years ive had equipment problems, alot of it was trying to figuer out what i should be wearing and taking with me out there, another issue is where im hunting but i can't really fix that problem. Public lands suck dick, all hunted out, and i don't feel like going door to door like a magazine salesmen begging farmers to let me hunt. Shit sucks......but my plan this year is to just walk deep as fuck into the forest trying to go where no man has gone before and hope i have the energy to make it back out alive
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22373887 - 10/13/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh man Ive only fucked around with the cheapos like foodsaver and shit. Fucking bullshit becasuse cheapo means a couple hundred dollars and they are all horrible they barely suck give u like a centimeter wide heat seal that barely holds. also most farmers hate deer. round here theres like way too many deer n shit but theyre mostly smalls.
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Re: First world problem need advice [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22373894 - 10/13/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: omg loony toons, shit sold for $1775 thats so stupid, granted its like $2.2k new but it was dented and looked like someone cut around the serial plate and who knows how old it was, plus a chef owned it so it would have been worked really hard i honestly didn't think it would break $1k. It always irks me these people who bid anywhere over the last 10 mintues, surely they know they will get outbid so all they accomplished was to jack the price up. Its just like at that price you might as well get a new one so you don't have to worry about if the pump oil was ever changed
meh thats like commercial shit dewd shit has redic resale ur better off buy'n a broken one off someone and fixin it.
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Also i read ur whole thing now wtf are u trying to vaccum here chili n stuff? what about canning it? Do u have ne canneries by you? like mormon home food storage places or other stuff? jus go there and jus tell them the truth about what ur trying to do and theyll tell u what u need unless its like drugs stuff. alot of times u can rent a ton of huge commercial canning equitment and prob even huge commercial vaccum sealers n shit.
Edited by CHeifM4sterDiezL (10/13/15 03:21 PM)
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