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OfflineSkribe
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Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics?
    #22369214 - 10/12/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Having trouble finding God with the devil riding shotgun. And tips?


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Skribe]
    #22369230 - 10/12/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

give up


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Skribe]
    #22369329 - 10/12/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Skribe said:
Having trouble finding God with the devil riding shotgun. And tips?




Learn to play your fiddle hard.



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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: LunarEclipse] * 1
    #22369959 - 10/12/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dissolving the ego is a myth. You need to have an ego or else you never would have evolved to where you are today. We wouldn't have made it past shit... You need somewhat of an ego to at least be your friend. People who claim to have no ego or be against egos tend to be soft as fuck with the spines of mice. The lack of competition has brought humans into this weird time now where all kids are very apathetic and nihilistic, dissolving egos and not caring about anything or ever fighting


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: eehoo] * 1
    #22370038 - 10/12/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think eehoo makes a pretty good point.  To deny the ego, as some do, makes no sense -- it is in fact quite necessary for negotiating Earthly affairs.  What is to be done is to put it in its proper perspective, i.e. as not the fundamental self of an individual.  It is quite real, and for all practical purposes it is totally necessary for each person to behave on that level, at least to an appreciable extent.


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #22370982 - 10/12/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dissolving would be the wrong term. Dilute maybe, knock it down a peg in its importance in your life.  I agree with eehoo that the ego is necessary for interactions in this life.

If you destroyed your ego and realized that you are not an individual at all and that the perspective of seeing yourself as important was to be abolished, then what's the fuckin point in being alive? Why get out of bed, or breathe, the whole will continue to exist beyond YOU.

The ego is a defence mechanism designed to keep you safe and to ensure you find the value in life and in individuality, in the different view points and opinions and feelings and interactions that make the humane experience unique and beautiful. Even the shitty parts of life are beautiful in their own way just for being. And for being able to look at them and analyze them in a way that is completely unique to yourself because afterall it is the subjective experience of an objective shared reality that makes things interesting.


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Skribe] * 1
    #22372258 - 10/13/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Understand the nature of your own mind by watching your thoughts as they come to you, and intuitively withdrawing your belief in them, remaining as you naturally are without the addition of thoughts.

Also watch what you automatically identify with out of habit from the moment you wake up, and begin to question it... always remaining as you actually are.

And always remain calm.


Edited by Swarupa (10/14/15 12:50 PM)


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Swarupa] * 1
    #22372307 - 10/13/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I heard this poem once and it was a simple line but it was, "without me I would not be". We have an anti-individualistic culture nowadays for some reason (America is trying to be like Europe and Asia now?). It's unhealthy to raise all these people thinking that caring about their own and being a stud is something immoral or selfish to strive for. This is your life and there are so many other people in the world that who else is going to make things happen for you? There's literally nobody else but yourself to rely on in life and to just dissolve yourself into nothing and become a mouth breathing follower seems insane to me, but to each their own in the end. If that's what you want then yeah


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: eehoo]
    #22372461 - 10/13/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Be true to yourself, whatever you currently take that to be... if you feel you are the ego and that serves you well then be true to that, if you sense there is a deeper aspect to yourself than the ego be true to that.

The picture that the mind/ego paints of it's own absence isn't going to be accurate.


Edited by Swarupa (10/14/15 02:09 AM)


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Skribe] * 1
    #22373157 - 10/13/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Can't escape ego, can only find brief windows of peace. :fishing:


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Skribe]
    #22374069 - 10/13/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Skribe said:
Having trouble finding God with the devil riding shotgun. And tips?




it is not ego you need to look at, it is the heroic ego. Ego itself is not a problem. it is basically your unique 'I'. I say 'what music do you like?' and you don't say 'everything', because you will have your likes and dislikes, and they may change but your choice is still unique to you

However the heroic ego is the ego that seeks to control-over more and more to destruction of self, others, and nature. It wants to remain unmoved, be in total control, and this can be actually seen in patriarchal mythology. This book is a deep must-read about this: From a Broken Web, by Catherine Keller

Here is an artistic personifcation of the armoured heroic hero in action:



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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Skribe]
    #22376832 - 10/14/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Skribe said:

Having trouble finding God with the devil riding shotgun. And tips?




Load audiobooks and youtube vids of Jung, Campbell, Watts, Groff, Leary, Ram Dass, Papaji, Pema Chodron, Ken Wilber, Sam Harris, Tolle, Adya, Mooji, Gangaji, etc. onto an iPod and listen daily for 10 years. Worked for "me." :bobdobbs:


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Skribe]
    #22379301 - 10/14/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

what devil?


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: laughingdog]
    #22381715 - 10/15/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The devil mind


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Skribe]
    #22381752 - 10/15/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Keep your eyes closed and blind fold yourself for a day and do your best to continue as normal and ignore everyone's weirding out.


Edited by usulpsychonaut (10/15/15 01:56 AM)


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Swarupa]
    #22387786 - 10/16/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You my brother are wise!


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Re: Steps to disintegrate the ego without taking psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
    #22389137 - 10/16/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Skribe said:

Having trouble finding God with the devil riding shotgun. And tips?




Load audiobooks and youtube vids of Jung, Campbell, Watts, Groff, Leary, Ram Dass, Papaji, Pema Chodron, Ken Wilber, Sam Harris, Tolle, Adya, Mooji, Gangaji, etc. onto an iPod and listen daily for 10 years. Worked for "me." :bobdobbs:




Check out this one, Rebels & Devils: The Psychology of Liberation

http://www.amazon.com/Rebels-Devils-The-Psychology-Liberation/dp/1935150340


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