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Liability for things that you recieve in the mail
    #2236882 - 01/12/04 10:49 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

okay, heres the hypothetical situation.

one morning,my friend wakes up to find that fed-ex or ups or usps for that matter has left me a sizable package at her door adressed to noone she had ever heard of but with her adress on it
so naturally she brings it inside her home and opens it up. wham its half an ounce of mushrooms or half a sheet of acid or a pound of bud, or you can substitute somthing else illegal.

I have heard that she can not be held liable responsable for things that are sent to her in the mail, is this true?

also could she be held liable if this package was busted in transit with her adress, but not her name by the proper authorites?


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Re: Liability for things that you recieve in the mail [Re: ZippoZ]
    #2236964 - 01/12/04 11:50 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

> could she be held liable if this package was busted in transit with her adress, but not her name by the proper authorites

Most likely, in this case, they will dress a cop up as a delivery guy. If she refuses the package when he comes to the door, then she is free. (It doesn't have her name on it, why would she accept it?) If she does accept it, then things start to get iffy. Usually at this point, they will bust her... they prefer to give you time to actually open the package as it helps build their case, but the receiver will end up in court one way or another.

Best thing for her to do would be refuse the package, or leave the package unopened by the door. If the cops show up later, she can claim ignorance as to the contents and hope her lawyer is good enough to get her off.

They have also been known to put tracking devices into discovered contraband to see where it ultimately ends up. They busted a fed-ex deliver guy down here over the summer this way. Somebody would ship bricks of cannabis through fed-ex to fake addresses along the guys route. He would see a fake address and drop the package in his car. The cops intercepted the package in PR and slipped a tracking device into it. When it ended up in the guys trunk, they busted him.


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Re: Liability for things that you recieve in the mail [Re: ZippoZ]
    #2236991 - 01/12/04 12:03 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

If you take the package into your house(your possesion) you will be charged with possesion of illegals, plus run a risk of being charged for possesion of stolen property. (don't fuck with mail unless it is addressed to you.)
Depending on who and how you were busted, they could try to tack on other charges also. Tampering with US. mail, interstate transit, Intent to distibute. and on and on and on.


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Re: Liability for things that you recieve in the mail [Re: ZippoZ]
    #2242897 - 01/14/04 11:01 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I had a friend that received a package (though he didn't have to sign for it) his address, but different name. There were 4 guys living in the house at the time and he wasn't sure if was one of theirs or not. He took inside and left it on the bar.

About an hour or so later, FBI and I believe ATF agents showed up.

It turns out it was steroids, but since he never opened the package, they didn't do anything, no charges whatsoever.

But I can see how the circumstances might be different especially if you were to sign for the package.


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Re: Liability for things that you recieve in the mail [Re: ZippoZ]
    #2243756 - 01/15/04 10:33 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Never sign for ANYTHING. If you are having someone send you shit, make sure they sign the signature waiver so you don't have to sign for it.

Always have shit addressed to a random name, and have the waiver signed.

Once the package comes do not open it for at least 1 hour.

You should have about all the bases of a good defense covered.


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Re: Liability for things that you recieve in the mail [Re: JetBlackNinja]
    #2244836 - 01/15/04 07:57 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Everything you said but I would wait at least a day.

Just to be safe(er).


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Re: Liability for things that you recieve in the mail [Re: ZippoZ]
    #2254588 - 01/19/04 10:32 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

A good thing to do if you recieve an iffy box or letter is to make it return to sender and sit it on top of your tv or such for a few days.

If the boys in blue want you theyll come before the few days are up and find the package unopened with return to sender on it.

of course you havent had time to make it to the post office yet......;)

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Re: Liability for things that you recieve in the mail [Re: Millet]
    #2272950 - 01/25/04 09:39 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

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