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Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...what happened to the magic?
    #22367880 - 10/12/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Last night I ate 4g of golden teachers - this is the most I've ever taken in one sitting.  I was expecting a pretty good trip and unfortunately I BARELY tripped at all.

Prior to yesterday, I've taken about 3.25g 3 times in a row with about 7-8 days rest between them - did I build up a tolerance?  I had no other drugs in my system yesterday and my last meal before the mushrooms was about 3 hours prior.

Please note I took about .3g of mdma on Friday. Not sure if this is relevant but I wanted to make note of this.

Here's the thing - I have an epic trip planned with my two best friends who are coming to visit me next month. We are planning to trip together on 11/13 - our first trip together in over 15 yrs.

Should I be worried that I/we potentially won't really trip? 
If it's a tolerance thing, should I not eat any shrooms between now and 11/13?
In a perfect world, I would like to trip 2 weeks from yesterday (10/25), and then again on 11/13. Bad idea?
Would a L trip be better?  Meaning if I take L on 10/25 instead of mushrooms, am I more likely to trip from shrooms on 11/13?

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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22367901 - 10/12/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

7-8 days is a short break for  Psilocybin... two weeks are good.

Where did those shrooms come from? Golden teachers are not on the weak side (soon my tray will start pining golden teachers :trippinbawelz: so might have been a weak batch or poorly dried.


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #22367927 - 10/12/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for your quick response.

I grew them myself. Is it possible that some in the batch are not as potent as others?

So does waiting two weeks mean that I could eat the same amount every two weeks for the next X amount of years and not ever build up a tolerance?

Also what about L and mushrooms?  Does building up a tolerance with one mean that you have built up a tolerance with both?


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22368115 - 10/12/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If growing from Multispore, low potency batches will happen. Its all a luck (or unluck) of the draw.

Could be tolerance but i believe its mostly a bunk batch.


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22368156 - 10/12/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
If growing from Multispore, low potency batches will happen. Its all a luck (or unluck) of the draw.

Could be tolerance but i believe its mostly a bunk batch.



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LogicaL Chaos said:
If growing from Multispore, low potency batches will happen. Its all a luck (or unluck) of the draw.

Could be tolerance but i believe its mostly a bunk batch.




Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what is multispore?  I used a syringe and brf cakes.


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22368165 - 10/12/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Also is it possible if every thing from this batch was from the same syringe and some of the shrooms produced are legit and some would be considered bunk?


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22368177 - 10/12/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would definitely say that some batches will not be as potent as others, and even different mushies in the same batch can vary in potency. Did you allow them to grow beyond the veil breaking? that is said to cause a reduced potency in ratio to size/weight of the mushroom. I believe it is known that no more actives are produced in the mushroom after the veil breaks, so beyond that point would just be for show/spore printing.

With these factors in mind you could assume that even the shrooms off of the same substrate can vary in potency because some will have opened their caps and gained size without increased actives while others that have not opened yet are still at maximum active:weight ratio. This in my opinion, should not have made a huge difference in your trip though. The MDMA on the other hand... I believe could have played a big role.

Also I think tolerance can build when taken every two weeks for very long periods of time, for sure, IMO. The first few times I doubt it would be noticeable, but to say you would not build any tolerance at all would not be true.

You said you tripped 3x with 7-8 days rest in between. How long ago was the last trip before this one?
Were you eating the same shrooms from the same grow as those other 3 times?


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22368248 - 10/12/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

multispore is using a syringe filled with spores.

All the spores in that syringe (which came from a spore print from the actual mushroom) contain a HUGE variety of genetics that end up growing on your cake, some weak, some potent, some mutant, some VERY potent, some ultra weak, you get the idea....

Usually, a medium-potency strain grows, cause its the most likely one to grow. However, sometimes a really weak strain dominates the cake, and thus u get weak shrooms.


When you inject your cakes with a syringe, its a multispore (MS) grow.

People do isolating (using agar to isolate genetics from multispore) or cloning (literally copying a known potent shroom) to improve consistency between grows to grows.

If you get really good at isolating and cloning, you can make some VERY potent shrooms. Its what the experts do.


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22368438 - 10/12/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I guess the other question was were they def cracker dry? Perhaps the moisture skewed the weight so the dose was smaller than expected


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: Shroomspective]
    #22368465 - 10/12/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

a week is more than enough, i tripped every 3 days for almost 6 months straight last year and pushed into level 4 and no less than level 3 one every single one

it's just a weak patch or something along those lines.. it happens, sometimes you take a bunch and nothing happens.. sometimes you take a little and a WHOLE LOT happens

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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: Designer Drugs]
    #22368932 - 10/12/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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1.  I would definitely say that some batches will not be as potent as others, and even different mushies in the same batch can vary in potency. Did you allow them to grow beyond the veil breaking? that is said to cause a reduced potency in ratio to size/weight of the mushroom. I believe it is known that no more actives are produced in the mushroom after the veil breaks, so beyond that point would just be for show/spore printing.

2.  With these factors in mind you could assume that even the shrooms off of the same substrate can vary in potency because some will have opened their caps and gained size without increased actives while others that have not opened yet are still at maximum active:weight ratio. This in my opinion, should not have made a huge difference in your trip though. The MDMA on the other hand... I believe could have played a big role.

Also I think tolerance can build when taken every two weeks for very long periods of time, for sure, IMO. The first few times I doubt it would be noticeable, but to say you would not build any tolerance at all would not be true.

3.  You said you tripped 3x with 7-8 days rest in between. How long ago was the last trip before this one?
Were you eating the same shrooms from the same grow as those other 3 times?




1.  one or two cakes for sure went beyond their peak - by maybe 18 hrs or so.  I was told this would have little to no affect on the potency.  I typically only eat 3.25-3.5g.  Yesterday I ate 4g so I figured if the potency was reduced by a little amount in SOME of the caps and stems, then the extra .5g this time would have overcompensated for this.  Here's the original thread on the late harvest:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22246647

2.  Why/How would the MDMA affect this 48 hrs later?  How much time should I separate the two  Why is candy flipping so fun (from what I hear) if doing the two so close together cancels out the shrooms?

3.  I believe 8 days break before yesterday.  So i've taken mushrooms 4 times is just barely over one month.


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22368938 - 10/12/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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multispore is using a syringe filled with spores.

All the spores in that syringe (which came from a spore print from the actual mushroom) contain a HUGE variety of genetics that end up growing on your cake, some weak, some potent, some mutant, some VERY potent, some ultra weak, you get the idea....

Usually, a medium-potency strain grows, cause its the most likely one to grow. However, sometimes a really weak strain dominates the cake, and thus u get weak shrooms.


When you inject your cakes with a syringe, its a multispore (MS) grow.

People do isolating (using agar to isolate genetics from multispore) or cloning (literally copying a known potent shroom) to improve consistency between grows to grows.

If you get really good at isolating and cloning, you can make some VERY potent shrooms. Its what the experts do.




Yes, this was a multispore.  Going the other route you mention above sounds fantastic, but I don't think I'm ready for that just yet.  I would like to get a few more grows under my belt first.


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: Shroomspective]
    #22368948 - 10/12/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I guess the other question was were they def cracker dry? Perhaps the moisture skewed the weight so the dose was smaller than expected




Yes they are cracker dry.  Or at least as dry if not more dry than the other 3 trips I've had on the same batch. 

Trips 1-3:  3.25g-3.5g
4th trip (yesterday):  4g


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: cube talk]
    #22368986 - 10/12/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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a week is more than enough, i tripped every 3 days for almost 6 months straight last year and pushed into level 4 and no less than level 3 one every single one

it's just a weak patch or something along those lines.. it happens, sometimes you take a bunch and nothing happens.. sometimes you take a little and a WHOLE LOT happens

you just never know




Well fuck this sucks.  I've probably tripped 30 times in the last 18 months and have had no issues, with the exception of one other time and I think that was because I still had a benzo in my blood. 

I've heard back from several people, and it's MUCH APPRECIATED, but the responses have varied greatly.  If it was just me, then i would deal with it and hope the next one turns out ok. 

The reason I am so concerned right now is because of my buddies that are visiting in mid-nov.  As mentioned previously in my first post of this thread, I really want my buddies to have a good trip.  My hope is that they will have as much fun as I do on these and when they get back home to Zamunda they will start growing themselves.  I want to spread the WORD!  I took a 10+ yr hiatus from eating mushrooms, and when I reintroduced them to myself, I remember asking "WHY THE FUCK DID YOU STOP TAKING THESE?"  That's what I'm hoping they are saying after we trip...assuming we even trip.


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22369634 - 10/12/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Bump.

Just trying to keep this thread alive until I get a general census on what the hell happened last night.


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22369972 - 10/12/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

shrooms have a great variance in potency.....
if you want mushrooms to have constant potency from dose to dose than you will have to ground a few ounces to a pounds to blend all the mushrooms together


than, when you dose, it will all be the same strength


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: blackdust]
    #22369998 - 10/12/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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shrooms have a great variance in potency.....
if you want mushrooms to have constant potency from dose to dose than you will have to ground a few ounces to a pounds to blend all the mushrooms together


than, when you dose, it will all be the same strength


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22370014 - 10/12/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i like to make capsules with the powder
other prefer tea
or the lemon tek
or making chocolates

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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: blackdust]
    #22370037 - 10/12/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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i like to make capsules with the powder
other prefer tea
or the lemon tek
or making chocolates

:awethumb:




I've only done chocolates but need to try the others at some point. 

Is it true they kick in faster and hit a bit harder if powdered up or is this complete bs?


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Re: Ate some magic mushrooms yesterday...weak ass trip [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #22370081 - 10/12/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

idk man
i only do powder


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