|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Wisconsin psilyocibe research 1
#22367644 - 10/12/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/health-med-fit/uw-madison-tunes-in-to-magic-mushroom-medicine/article_5c229322-1132-5328-90c1-017e917f0696.html
Quote:
Before taking the drug, each person is assigned two guides, people experienced in yoga, meditation or mindfulness. The participant meets with the guides for eight hours to develop trust.
They would be better off with me as a guide than any of those dipshits.
--------------------
|
Mr.GuessWork
Stranger

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 4,563
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod] 2
#22367676 - 10/12/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
You might be surprised on that one. Several of the yoga people that I know have a decent amount of experience with shrooms and LSD, and some of the meditation/yoga practices provide the right kind structure to keep a trip from going bad. It's probably a pretty good choice if they're going to pick somebody for a sitter. Personally, I'd rather just be left alone to manage my own shit, but If I were forced to have a sitter, than one of those guys wouldn't be an awful choice.
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#22367681 - 10/12/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I didn't say they would be awful. I said I would be better. And I would certainly cut through their nonsense.
--------------------
|
Mr.GuessWork
Stranger

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 4,563
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22367687 - 10/12/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Did you ever do any yoga or meditation?
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#22367692 - 10/12/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
No.
--------------------
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22367699 - 10/12/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
No wonder they need guides
Quote:
Music ranges from contemplative, chanting and classical to Beatles arrangements with no lyrics.
Ahhhhhhhh stab me in the ears now.
--------------------
|
Mr.GuessWork
Stranger

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 4,563
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22367774 - 10/12/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've done a little yoga, and a wee little bit of meditation on a few occasions with the kind of guys that they're picking for those studies. If you don't indulge in the mystical bullshit that goes with it, it's definitely got some utility for drug trips. They're probably spending time getting the subjects mind on the right track so they don't have panic attacks and that kind of shit. And yoga is way more fun when you're tripping balls, sort of like how dancing is more fun. I'm sure the meditation stuff they do with them is a pretty good setup for a trip too. I'm guessing that they provide a loose structure for them to refocus on when The yoga guys a way better choice for a sitter than a psychologist would be. I'm guessing that the people in these studies are taking pretty low doses of psilocybin too, so I doubt they need much support other than not being fucked with.
And ya, I'd want my own choice of music at the very least. This is what happens when you do drugs in somebody's research lab when they're sober. They think they know what you want do better than you do. I can't imagine it's fun tripping with an IV in your arm for 8+ hours either though.
|
badchad
Mad Scientist

Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 13,372
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22368133 - 10/12/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I didn't say they would be awful. I said I would be better. And I would certainly cut through their nonsense.
The nonsense is part of the package. It certainly contributes to efficacy.
-------------------- ...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge. It is an indellible experience; it is forever known. I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did. Smith, P. Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27. ...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely. Osmond, H. Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#22368266 - 10/12/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Mr.GuessWork said: I've done a little yoga, and a wee little bit of meditation on a few occasions with the kind of guys that they're picking for those studies. If you don't indulge in the mystical bullshit that goes with it, it's definitely got some utility for drug trips. They're probably spending time getting the subjects mind on the right track so they don't have panic attacks and that kind of shit. And yoga is way more fun when you're tripping balls, sort of like how dancing is more fun. I'm sure the meditation stuff they do with them is a pretty good setup for a trip too. I'm guessing that they provide a loose structure for them to refocus on when The yoga guys a way better choice for a sitter than a psychologist would be. I'm guessing that the people in these studies are taking pretty low doses of psilocybin too, so I doubt they need much support other than not being fucked with.
And ya, I'd want my own choice of music at the very least. This is what happens when you do drugs in somebody's research lab when they're sober. They think they know what you want do better than you do. I can't imagine it's fun tripping with an IV in your arm for 8+ hours either though.
So is football. I knew where the ball was going.
A set up for tripping? Just trip. The world will fill the space. In construction I believe in planning. In tripping I believe in letting it happen
--------------------
|
Mr.GuessWork
Stranger

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 4,563
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22368304 - 10/12/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I'm mostly on board with that too, but I usually do some planning so I know I won't have to do anything stupid during a trip. We've got more experience than the general population with this stuff though, and lots of inexperienced people do stupid stuff like panic and call 911 when they hallucinate. I think having the guides there is just a way to minimize the risk of people loosing their shit. That's a pharmacological study after all, and they're really just interested in keeping the people safely hooked up to an IV while they trip for several hours, which I would not volunteer for or be happy about.
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#22368332 - 10/12/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Damn man all I ever did was eat it with friends. Or alone. I never had a bad trip and we never got into that mumbo jumbo
--------------------
|
Mr.GuessWork
Stranger

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 4,563
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22368385 - 10/12/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I usually do it alone, but I've done it in small groups too, and I learned the little mumobo jumbo I know about separately. This isn't really meant to be a fun trip though. It's only meant to be fun enough to be safe for the test subject. Most people get scared when the world starts getting weird and unpredictable, and it's good to have some safe guards in place in case stuff starts going crazy (think of the timothy Leary sized gatherings for an example of stupid lack of preparations). The researchers need somebody there in case people go crazy for legal reasons and probably for practical reasons in extreme cases too. If you've got to choose from a cop, a shrink, and a yogi, then I think the yogi is the best bet for a competent sitter. Most of the professional options that are available are completely unfit to do any sort of productive trip sitting because they specialize in normal psychology at best, while the yoga people are used to respecting weird crazy ideas. I had a friend who got locked up and put in a strait jacket in a padded room when she was a teenager simply because she was on LSD. I'll take a the mumbo jumbo guys over the official more respected professional guys any and every day for a shroom trip.
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Mr.GuessWork] 1
#22368562 - 10/12/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I will say it again. I am the best trip sitter you could ever ask for.
--------------------
|
Mr.GuessWork
Stranger

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 4,563
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22368563 - 10/12/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I'd feel guilty if you were sitting there sober though.
EDIT: Damn. I'm spitting out typos like crazy today.
Edited by Mr.GuessWork (10/12/15 05:08 PM)
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#22368609 - 10/12/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I probably wouldn't be
--------------------
|
1234go
Ban Lotto Champion


Registered: 07/08/09
Posts: 53,877
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22369033 - 10/12/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
What are you on about? Talkin' outta your ass in here.
You don't strike me as the kinda of "energy" I'd wanna have around if I was tripping.
I'd choose a hip trendy yogi any day of the week, if I had to have a sitter for some reason.
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22369159 - 10/12/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I want to take the time to seriously respond to this thread but I don't even know where to begin so I won't.
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I will say it again. I am the best trip sitter you could ever ask for.
I will say this though, I would way rather have a longtime practitioner of meditation and or yoga then someone who just trips fr fun present 
Tripping in a ceremonial setting with traditional chanting and stuff would be very interesting and I am sure adds to the experience quite a bit.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Webster10
Up like Trump


Registered: 12/03/13
Posts: 9,966
Loc: Strawberry Fields
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
|
|
Grunting and swaying like a dumb ape for several hours on end just doesn't seem appealing to me.
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Webster10] 1
#22369204 - 10/12/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Distorted Vision
The best. Of the worst.



Registered: 07/30/09
Posts: 4,292
Loc: Indiana
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22369263 - 10/12/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Zappa, I'd love for you to trip balls with me.
But you must promise weird and sensual sex, that we would of course never talk about the next day.
You can open my third eye. my brown eye
--------------------
"Yo yo just here to spread my clit and show ya'll what a wonderful and free being we are all inside lets take the acid and turn inside into the outside come on over baby lets smell the roses ohh ohh come on we're about to get lit show my undies to your baby I'll hug it down three times go around frown come on we aint a nice clown kiss me upside down down down come on sorry if you cant handle my wokeness come on lets take her panties off write shroomery on my asshole and taste it lick it make if feel like we was 1978 come on baby lets do the locamotion"-Twig dude
|
SunnyD
WiZarD oF LoVe



Registered: 04/29/13
Posts: 25,236
Loc: Planet earth
Last seen: 1 month, 22 days
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod] 3
#22369352 - 10/12/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I will say it again. I am the best trip sitter you could ever ask for.
Dont be so full of yourself
I respect you but sometimes you act like you know it all or are better than everyone else, not saying you aint smart, cause i think you are. But whats wron with yoga or meditation? stretching and breathing slow is nice during a trip  I love yoga, usually in the sun barefoot in the grass in a quiet meadow or in a quiet backyard
Back to the topic, I think magic mushroom research is a cool thing, i hope psychedelic therapy and acceptance of these substances happen s in my lifetime, but who knows
--------------------
        And to everyone who thinks life is just a game, Do you like the part you are playing? This is the time in life I am living! And I face each day with a smile My music Library of Synthesizer goodness
|
Mr.GuessWork
Stranger

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 4,563
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Webster10]
#22369395 - 10/12/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Webster10 said: Grunting and swaying like a dumb ape for several hours on end just doesn't seem appealing to me.
You have the wrong idea about it. It takes a little practice with having an open mind. If you take it seriously for a little bit, you'll start to get a feel for it. Bigotry like that, ^, doesn't really make for a good trip or for any competence at learning new stuff.
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: SunnyD] 1
#22369412 - 10/12/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Psychedelic research in general is fascinating, I love reading all the crazy stuff the Shulgins wrote. So much interesting knowledge.
Earlier I was reading up on some random novel psychedelics and what makes them so unique. Apparently certain Dox's for example leave strong radioactive maps f where they have traveled in the body so they can be easily scanned for neuromapping which is pretty cool. Also his research on how different chemical arrangements change their method and effect on the body is pretty amazing.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
|
Quote:
musiclover420 said: I want to take the time to seriously respond to this thread but I don't even know where to begin so I won't.
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I will say it again. I am the best trip sitter you could ever ask for.
I will say this though, I would way rather have a longtime practitioner of meditation and or yoga then someone who just trips fr fun present 
Tripping in a ceremonial setting with traditional chanting and stuff would be very interesting and I am sure adds to the experience quite a bit.
If that's how you want to go I won't steer you away. I am mostly hands off unless I see some kind of panic happening and I know of no one better than me at soothing a panicking tripper. Done it many times, some of them when I was tripping myself. I will lie shamelessly to reassure someone.
--------------------
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22373741 - 10/13/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I have had someone do that while blacked out on psychs and "tripping out" and all it did was confuse me becouse I could feel how empty the words are but didn't even fully understand why anything was being said, let alone how and where anyone else showed up from and how I could communicate with them at all I just remember being confused as fuck while my friends dad hugged me saying shit like "its ok we all love you" blah blah blah.
Like I said I was blacked out though, I am sure you saying positive reassuring things could do a lot of good for someone going down some negative thought paths.
Hands off definitely seems like the best sitter approach, that always seemed like what sitter meant to me honestly. Somewhat who sits by sober while you trip.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Turtletotem
Dutch Delight



Registered: 09/02/13
Posts: 3,763
Last seen: 4 years, 11 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22373762 - 10/13/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't know, Zappa. In my experience meditation and tripping go hand in hand.
But their music selection really creeps me out, that's just a bad trip waiting to happen
--------------------
Edited by Turtletotem (10/13/15 02:38 PM)
|
Turtletotem
Dutch Delight



Registered: 09/02/13
Posts: 3,763
Last seen: 4 years, 11 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22373774 - 10/13/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I will lie shamelessly to reassure someone.
Oh great, now it won't work on anybody having read this, even if you were 100% sincere!
--------------------
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
|
That isn't the lie I would tell you.
--------------------
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker



Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,596
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22373905 - 10/13/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Being in Wisconsin, I thought they'd be showing Aaron Rodgers highlight films instead of quasi-shaman type sitters.lol
And, oh, by the way, that playlist sucks! Need some ABB or Lou Reed or something to get their mind happy...not confused.
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
Edited by Thayendanegea (10/13/15 03:16 PM)
|
Stonehenge
Alt Center

Registered: 06/20/04
Posts: 14,850
Loc: S.E.
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: 1234go] 1
#22373925 - 10/13/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
1234go said: What are you on about? Talkin' outta your ass in here.
You don't strike me as the kinda of "energy" I'd wanna have around if I was tripping.
I'd choose a hip trendy yogi any day of the week, if I had to have a sitter for some reason.
Agreed. Zap would be the pits as a sitter, a debby downer with an attitude and strong opinions.
-------------------- “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835) Trade list http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18047755
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Stonehenge]
#22373934 - 10/13/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
You really don't get me at all.
--------------------
|
Stonehenge
Alt Center

Registered: 06/20/04
Posts: 14,850
Loc: S.E.
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22374201 - 10/13/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
That's the way you come across
>I would certainly cut through their nonsense.
Not what people want on a trip.
-------------------- “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835) Trade list http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18047755
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Stonehenge]
#22374238 - 10/13/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Stonehenge said: That's the way you come across
>I would certainly cut through their nonsense.
Not what people want on a trip.
I was referring to the yoga/meditator's spirit guide nonsense. That shit is useless in the clutch.
--------------------
|
sh4d0ws
LSx


Registered: 02/26/08
Posts: 12,086
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22374247 - 10/13/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
what is psilyocibe?
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22374259 - 10/13/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Read the link.
--------------------
|
1234go
Ban Lotto Champion


Registered: 07/08/09
Posts: 53,877
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22374268 - 10/13/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
zappaisgod said:
I was referring to the yoga/meditator's spirit guide nonsense. That shit is useless in the clutch.
Some may find it useful, not everyone enjoys the same "journey" if you will.
We're all different.
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: 1234go]
#22374347 - 10/13/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Oh I know. But when the panic sets in I know how to handle it.
--------------------
|
olson
Stranger

Registered: 11/03/12
Posts: 386
Last seen: 3 years, 10 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Turtletotem]
#22374464 - 10/13/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I will lie shamelessly to reassure someone.
Lying to someone who is having a bad trip is a not a good idea. You don't want to make someone feel more insane than they already do. For instance if you try that trick of telling them they will feel fine if they take some vitamin C and they do and it does nothing they will think they are utterly doomed.
Its easy to read people when tripping anyway so if they sense you are deceiving them their paranoia will go through the roof.
--------------------
Kinesin, a motor protein, shuttling a vesicle full of cargo such as glucose or even neurotransmitters across a cell. This little guy struts along the microtubule using ATP as fuel.
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: olson] 1
#22374578 - 10/13/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
olson said:
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I will lie shamelessly to reassure someone.
Lying to someone who is having a bad trip is a not a good idea. You don't want to make someone feel more insane than they already do. For instance if you try that trick of telling them they will feel fine if they take some vitamin C and they do and it does nothing they will think they are utterly doomed.
Its easy to read people when tripping anyway so if they sense you are deceiving them their paranoia will go through the roof.
I tell them it will be over soon even though I know it won't and that they can go to sleep. By the time they realize I was full of shit they will be well past scary time but it reassures them nonetheless. Works every time.
--------------------
|
olson
Stranger

Registered: 11/03/12
Posts: 386
Last seen: 3 years, 10 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22374613 - 10/13/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Fair enough. Reminding them it will pass is key.
--------------------
Kinesin, a motor protein, shuttling a vesicle full of cargo such as glucose or even neurotransmitters across a cell. This little guy struts along the microtubule using ATP as fuel.
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: olson]
#22374639 - 10/13/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
That has always been my mantra when it got to be big. This too shall pass. You WILL come down. I just lie about how long it will take
--------------------
|
olson
Stranger

Registered: 11/03/12
Posts: 386
Last seen: 3 years, 10 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22374701 - 10/13/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
yeah it already feels like time is a lie so ya gotta lie about it to compensate for that extreme time dilation.
--------------------
Kinesin, a motor protein, shuttling a vesicle full of cargo such as glucose or even neurotransmitters across a cell. This little guy struts along the microtubule using ATP as fuel.
|
lowbrow
Paddy Time!!!!


Registered: 09/12/08
Posts: 9,662
Last seen: 2 days, 2 hours
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22375966 - 10/13/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I will say it again. I am the best trip sitter you could ever ask for.
What music would you put in?
-------------------- Amanita86 said: Sui is trying to mod right now. Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..
|
Uzziel
O_o


Registered: 12/30/10
Posts: 11,689
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: lowbrow]
#22375993 - 10/13/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I hate trip sitters
I just want to go crazy, strip down naked and run straight into the streets! damnit
|
Masked
The Nutter



Registered: 11/26/12
Posts: 8,979
Loc: Canada
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22376560 - 10/13/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
zappaisgod said: I will say it again. I am the best trip sitter you could ever ask for.
Hypothetically,
How would you handle a situation where I take some mushrooms, first time in 10 years....and I begin to feel the fear. Instant dread that my brain connects to a panic attack I had a few times before. I can't escape the real physical symptoms of a 200 bpm heart rate, shallow and quick breathing, hot and cold flashes....?
(Note: I've only had a panic attack many years ago on weed, never psychs. But it's why my weed Intake is baby doses and it's why I stepped away from toying with psychedelics. I had a few trips here and there and Tho I was anxious at times, I had a good time and lots of laughs were had. It's much different than weed. )
-------------------- .
|
tealeaf
Just Touch It



Registered: 09/21/06
Posts: 2,907
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Masked]
#22377195 - 10/14/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Music ranges from contemplative, chanting and classical to Beatles arrangements with no lyrics.
The best part of all that is the no Beatles lyrics
|
Ezuma
Gontish Wizard



Registered: 12/02/13
Posts: 8,423
Loc: Roke
Last seen: 10 months, 21 days
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: zappaisgod]
#22377711 - 10/14/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Sounds cool. Tripping with zap sounds cool too. Im not a picky tripper. Their music selection though.... i can get with clasical, but the no lyrics beatles? One of my friends put on beatles remixes once tripping, wigged me out cus the songs all sounded wrong
|
musiclover420
psychonaut



Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 19,563
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Ezuma] 1
#22377722 - 10/14/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ezuma said: One of my friends put on beatles remixes once tripping, wigged me out cus the songs all sounded wrong
Reminds me of tripping at festivals and hearing people playing greatful dead and Floyd electronic remixes....

That was painful, what was even more painful was seeing people get down to them. I would gladly take the real stuff over some remix 99.9999999999% of the time...
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
|
Turtletotem
Dutch Delight



Registered: 09/02/13
Posts: 3,763
Last seen: 4 years, 11 months
|
|
With those remixes, I'd probably think my brain got broken or something.
--------------------
|
Ezuma
Gontish Wizard



Registered: 12/02/13
Posts: 8,423
Loc: Roke
Last seen: 10 months, 21 days
|
Re: Wisconsin psilyocibe research [Re: Turtletotem]
#22377878 - 10/14/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Yah thats exactly what i houht at first lol
|
|