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/Gun Control Debates.
    #22366748 - 10/12/15 05:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)






































Glad we're all on the same page now.


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Hebrews 11:3
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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #22366763 - 10/12/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



p.s. while I agree with whittle's message, I dont care for his greenscreen antics
of pretending to stand in front of congress and have his own fucking TV show

it makes him a liar in my book


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22367187 - 10/12/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The guy makes a point.

Then again less guns = less gun crime. Common sense has to take over at some point...


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22367615 - 10/12/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
The guy makes a point.

Then again less guns = less gun crime. Common sense has to take over at some point...




You know people get robbed at knife-point everyday. Should we legislate knives?


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22367660 - 10/12/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Common sense has to take over at some point...




It already has for many.

Common sense (and statistics) says only a very small percentage of guns/gun owners are involved in any crimes.

Common sense (and the law) says you punish the lawbreaker, not the law abiding.

Common sense (and physics) says guns don't fire themselves.

Common sense (and morals) says you don't screw the few for the acts of many.

Common sense (and the Supreme Court) recognizes a constitutional right.

Common sense (and logic) says modern firearms are constitutionally protected despite not being around when the second amendment was written, just like the first protects TV, radio and internet... despite them not being around when the amendment was written.

Common sense (and dictionaries, plus people with an IQ higher than 5) says that the words "the right of the people" means "the right of the people".

Common sense (and the Militia Act) says that all able bodied males between the ages of 18 - 45 are part of the militia.

Common sense (and statistics again) show that a certain subset of the population commit a disproportionate amount of gun crimes.

Common sense (and common sense) says many opposed to guns... have no common sense.

Too bad so many anti-gunners lack common sense.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22367706 - 10/12/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"No good guy with a gun has ever stopped a bad guy with a gun."

I've heard this again the last few days, every time there's a shooting people start saying that. Usually in response to people reacting to a shooting by wanting to get armed, or have teachers armed, or just do away with gun-free zones.

I always say if that statement is true then why do cops and soldiers have guns?

As long as the president has armed secret service agents protecting him and every member of his family, every single day for the rest of his life, then he should shut the fuck up about self defense.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Supachopped719] * 1
    #22367731 - 10/12/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Supachopped719 said:
"No good guy with a gun has ever stopped a bad guy with a gun."

I've heard this again the last few days, every time there's a shooting people start saying that. Usually in response to people reacting to a shooting by wanting to get armed, or have teachers armed, or just do away with gun-free zones.

I always say if that statement is true then why do cops and soldiers have guns?

As long as the president has armed secret service agents protecting him and every member of his family, every single day for the rest of his life, then he should shut the fuck up about self defense.




QFT


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #22367744 - 10/12/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Patlal said:
Common sense has to take over at some point...





Too bad so many anti-gunners lack common sense.




Too bad pro-gunners lack the intelligence required to look throughout the world to see that gun laws does in fact reduce gun crimes. With one exception of course, Switzerland, which chose to ban ammunition instead of guns achieving the same result.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22367761 - 10/12/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Too bad so many lack the common sense to realize that laws/results in one country don't necessarily translate to laws/results in another.

Too bad common sense doesn't reveal that the other countries don't have a constitution that codifies the right to 'arms'.

Too bad common sense doesn't stop you from making lame comments on guns and the right to bear them.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22367894 - 10/12/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Too bad anti-gun enthusiasts don't realize how an individual can create his/her own gun and ammo if one were so inclined....


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22367899 - 10/12/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Gun control is a joke

Watch this and learn the truth



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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368013 - 10/12/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Too bad anti-gun enthusiasts don't realize how an individual can create his/her own gun and ammo if one were so inclined....




One very common home made weapon found around the world is the home-made shotgun. Extremely simple to make the gun and the ammo. Extremely simple to shoot, and causes a ton of damage over a wide area.

Now with 3d printing technology, even in the most gun restricted places in the world, people can print up AK-47s . So if a country were to ban guns outright, stopped all domestic manufacturing of guns, stopped all import of guns, searched every vehicle or boat or person crossing into their borders, and had searches at the entrances of all its cities, someone could still make an entire army's arsenal in their basement.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Supachopped719]
    #22368062 - 10/12/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
Too bad anti-gun enthusiasts don't realize how an individual can create his/her own gun and ammo if one were so inclined....




One very common home made weapon found around the world is the home-made shotgun. Extremely simple to make the gun and the ammo. Extremely simple to shoot, and causes a ton of damage over a wide area.

Now with 3d printing technology, even in the most gun restricted places in the world, people can print up AK-47s . So if a country were to ban guns outright, stopped all domestic manufacturing of guns, stopped all import of guns, searched every vehicle or boat or person crossing into their borders, and had searches at the entrances of all its cities, someone could still make an entire army's arsenal in their basement.




...If one were so inclined. The files for those printers are actually on hold to civilians because of who could potentially get ahold of it. I still don't know about if even they should be regulated cuz like you said, anyone could make a firearm. Even out of polyurethane without the printer.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368146 - 10/12/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Jared Loughner was a schizo
he was also abused...
but that didn't really come out
the fact that he was schizo and played rune scape was more important

anyway
guns will never shoot down plans
or win fights against people with automatics
so you're better off with a peaceful society that has some not all of it's guns banned
like handguns for example


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368161 - 10/12/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The files for those printers are actually on hold to civilians because of who could potentially get ahold of it.




Can you elaborate? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: psi]
    #22368292 - 10/12/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You can have the printers but you'd have to create the coding for the guns because the atf has them on lock so potential terries can't get a hold of them.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368321 - 10/12/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There will never be gun control.

Too much black market/underground trading and selling to control gun sales.

And the US is a huge place, lots of places to hide/stash guns without anyone knowing....


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368331 - 10/12/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are you sure that's true? I thought there were some open source gun designs that anyone could print off if they had they equipment. Did you mean for AKs specifically? Very hard for anyone to keep data contained in the Internet age regardless, once it's out it's out.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: psi]
    #22368343 - 10/12/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's true but I'm sure you can get the code off the atf if you request it like you would if you were wanting to own a silencer. But yea, you can get the coding somewhere on the web though if you go looking for it.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
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Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368430 - 10/12/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think social media and people being aware of there surroundings and standing up to say somthing is the best form of violence control.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Anahata]
    #22368759 - 10/12/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think social media and people being aware of there surroundings and standing up to say somthing is the best form of violence control.




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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Hebrews 11:3
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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368797 - 10/12/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You can have the printers but you'd have to create the coding for the guns because the atf has them on lock so potential terries can't get a hold of them.




Except that before the fed's had them take the plans down, they were set free on the internet.

Once they're out there, they're always out there.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22368841 - 10/12/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
You can have the printers but you'd have to create the coding for the guns because the atf has them on lock so potential terries can't get a hold of them.





All the 3d printing blueprints are freely available on the clearnet. These are computer files, they can never be regulated, they can be copied billions of times and emailed to every gmail account and it would cost pennies.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Anahata] * 1
    #22368860 - 10/12/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think social media and people being aware of there surroundings and standing up to say somthing is the best form of violence control.



Should we stand up and say something when a guy looks like a terrorist in his avatar and constantly post about his aspirations to shoot someone who doesn't leave him alone?


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    #22368888 - 10/12/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think social media and people being aware of there surroundings and standing up to say somthing is the best form of violence control.







You literally have zero self awareness that you fit the perfect profile of someone we are supposed to be keeping an eye out for: White male in his 20s with a chip on his shoulder and who is obsessed with guns. You're standing in front of a don't tread on me flag wearing a camo bullet proof vest, face covered with sunglasses on. You look like the American version of an ISIS terrorist. What other clues does one need to say "hey, someone needs to keep an eye on this dude?"


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: koods]
    #22368890 - 10/12/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What's a terrorist look like?


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    #22368915 - 10/12/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: koods]
    #22368928 - 10/12/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:slowreaction:


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Supachopped719]
    #22369304 - 10/12/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Gun control is failed logic.  :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Herbologist]
    #22369408 - 10/12/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i got my ak back from the gunsmith last night :awegroove:

anti gun people can fuck right off... fuck right off good and hard.


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    #22369676 - 10/12/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just got done cleaning the 9mm.
gotta clean the AR-15 next.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: joe666]
    #22369707 - 10/12/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: koods] * 1
    #22369895 - 10/12/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Anahata said:
I think social media and people being aware of there surroundings and standing up to say somthing is the best form of violence control.







You literally have zero self awareness that you fit the perfect profile of someone we are supposed to be keeping an eye out for: White male in his 20s with a chip on his shoulder and who is obsessed with guns. You're standing in front of a don't tread on me flag wearing a camo bullet proof vest, face covered with sunglasses on. You look like the American version of an ISIS terrorist. What other clues does one need to say "hey, someone needs to keep an eye on this dude?"





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    #22370452 - 10/12/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: rackem] * 1
    #22370469 - 10/12/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Has anyone's opinion been changed in a single one of these threads...


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    #22370492 - 10/12/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

nope.. but it seems like the pro gunners are sick of debating it while the anti gunners continually want to bring shit up.


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    #22370517 - 10/12/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The guy makes a point.

Then again less guns = less gun crime. Common sense has to take over at some point...





let's start by disarming the government, once they lay down their guns then I know I can lay my guns down


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    #22370614 - 10/12/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
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Supachopped719 said:
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Shiithead said:
Too bad anti-gun enthusiasts don't realize how an individual can create his/her own gun and ammo if one were so inclined....




One very common home made weapon found around the world is the home-made shotgun. Extremely simple to make the gun and the ammo. Extremely simple to shoot, and causes a ton of damage over a wide area.

Now with 3d printing technology, even in the most gun restricted places in the world, people can print up AK-47s . So if a country were to ban guns outright, stopped all domestic manufacturing of guns, stopped all import of guns, searched every vehicle or boat or person crossing into their borders, and had searches at the entrances of all its cities, someone could still make an entire army's arsenal in their basement.




...If one were so inclined. The files for those printers are actually on hold to civilians because of who could potentially get ahold of it. I still don't know about if even they should be regulated cuz like you said, anyone could make a firearm. Even out of polyurethane without the printer.





it's just as cheap to buy a drill press and some 6061T aluminum and build your
own, or you could spend $20 and buy an 80% forging, all that needs to be milled
is a few holes and the pocket for the trigger group, it's legal, has no numbers
and requires no ATF paperwork to complete. it's absolutely legal to manufacture
your own firearm in the US. get on youtube and look it up, there's thousands of
videos of people that have done it and none were arrested for anything not an NFA
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    #22370636 - 10/12/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
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Anahata said:
I think social media and people being aware of there surroundings and standing up to say somthing is the best form of violence control.







You literally have zero self awareness that you fit the perfect profile of someone we are supposed to be keeping an eye out for: White male in his 20s with a chip on his shoulder and who is obsessed with guns. You're standing in front of a don't tread on me flag wearing a camo bullet proof vest, face covered with sunglasses on. You look like the American version of an ISIS terrorist. What other clues does one need to say "hey, someone needs to keep an eye on this dude?"




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Shiithead said:
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Supachopped719 said:
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Shiithead said:
Too bad anti-gun enthusiasts don't realize how an individual can create his/her own gun and ammo if one were so inclined....




One very common home made weapon found around the world is the home-made shotgun. Extremely simple to make the gun and the ammo. Extremely simple to shoot, and causes a ton of damage over a wide area.

Now with 3d printing technology, even in the most gun restricted places in the world, people can print up AK-47s . So if a country were to ban guns outright, stopped all domestic manufacturing of guns, stopped all import of guns, searched every vehicle or boat or person crossing into their borders, and had searches at the entrances of all its cities, someone could still make an entire army's arsenal in their basement.




...If one were so inclined. The files for those printers are actually on hold to civilians because of who could potentially get ahold of it. I still don't know about if even they should be regulated cuz like you said, anyone could make a firearm. Even out of polyurethane without the printer.





it's just as cheap to buy a drill press and some 6061T aluminum and build your
own, or you could spend $20 and buy an 80% forging, all that needs to be milled
is a few holes and the pocket for the trigger group, it's legal, has no numbers
and requires no ATF paperwork to complete. it's absolutely legal to manufacture
your own firearm in the US. get on youtube and look it up, there's thousands of
videos of people that have done it and none were arrested for anything not an NFA
weapon or if they were legal for ownership




Yea if I had more space I would have already made at least 3 by now x)

Just wish you could sell them.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: koods] * 1
    #22370711 - 10/12/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And if anyone here is a domestic terrorist it is you...

Who else would pervert the idea of patriotism other than someone who hates America and her people.

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    #22370816 - 10/12/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
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it's just as cheap to buy a drill press and some 6061T aluminum and build your
own, or you could spend $20 and buy an 80% forging, all that needs to be milled
is a few holes and the pocket for the trigger group, it's legal, has no numbers
and requires no ATF paperwork to complete. it's absolutely legal to manufacture
your own firearm in the US. get on youtube and look it up, there's thousands of
videos of people that have done it and none were arrested for anything not an NFA
weapon or if they were legal for ownership




Yea if I had more space I would have already made at least 3 by now x)

Just wish you could sell them.





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    #22370990 - 10/12/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Gun controll is knowing were your bullet lands.


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    #22371000 - 10/12/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Gun controll is knowing were your bullet lands.




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    #22371040 - 10/12/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We need better mental healthcare facilities, these gun issues seem to be a result of the US not having proper care for people with mental issues, if you have more sane people, then there should be less crimes involving guns :shrug:


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    #22371055 - 10/12/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We just need more guns really. If everyone had a gun who


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    #22371066 - 10/12/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

we dont need anymore laws or rules or justifications.

just people to do their god damned jobs.  if you have mental issues and you submit for a background check, you should get declined.

but instead, as it sits, if you forgot about that illegal lane change you got busted for, you cant buy a gun.. but if you just got out of  5150, sure have at it.


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We need better mental healthcare facilities, these gun issues seem to be a result of the US not having proper care for people with mental issues, if you have more sane people, then there should be less crimes involving guns :shrug:



But then if we did that we would have to blame the shooter for the shooting! It's much more convenient to blame the guns. Not to mention it helps in the reelection.


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we dont need anymore laws or rules or justifications.

just people to do their god damned jobs.  if you have mental issues and you submit for a background check, you should get declined.

but instead, as it sits, if you forgot about that illegal lane change you got busted for, you cant buy a gun.. but if you just got out of  5150, sure have at it.




Doesn't stop them from buying off the black market..


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    #22371083 - 10/12/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

dude, most of these people that do this kind of shit, obtained their guns legally. 

chew on this for a while.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?_r=0


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    #22371093 - 10/12/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"Fuck off, I like guns."

That's the only honest pro-gun argument.



Here's the most conservative Prime Minister we've had in Australia for 50 years. He brought in gun control and we haven't had a mass shooting for nearly 20 years.



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    #22371159 - 10/12/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's not like anything has changed recently with guns that has caused this anyways. Gun laws have pretty much remained the same except for some allowing conceal carry which means absolutely nothing in these such cases.

These kids are just fucked up losers who think killing a bunch of people will make them immortal. It's the same fucking logic suicide bombers use. The point of them being fatherless has shown to be overwhelming too. 85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes... :psychsplit:


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    #22371166 - 10/12/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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nope.. but it seems like the pro gunners are sick of debating it while the anti gunners continually want to bring shit up.




Who made this thread? You Ameritards can't stop talking about your stupid guns.

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"No good guy with a gun has ever stopped a bad guy with a gun."

I've heard this again the last few days, every time there's a shooting people start saying that. Usually in response to people reacting to a shooting by wanting to get armed, or have teachers armed, or just do away with gun-free zones.

I always say if that statement is true then why do cops and soldiers have guns?

As long as the president has armed secret service agents protecting him and every member of his family, every single day for the rest of his life, then he should shut the fuck up about self defense.




Okay what about no untrained person has stopped a bad guy with a gun? You can't actually be comparing yourself to the secret service now. Okay you take the secret service class and pass and you can carry a gun, how's that?

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dude, most of these people that do this kind of shit, obtained their guns legally. 

chew on this for a while.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?_r=0




Of course mass shooters get their guns legally, it's that way in Canada too. The problem with the gun nuts is they think gun control means illegal guns are available everywhere, they are not. An illegal gun dealer who sells a gun to someone who goes postal is going to get caught by the law if he doesn't get killed by organized crime first. Illegal guns are for drug dealers to shoot each other. And since prohibition adds so much value they are not within the price range of a stick up kid. They only exist for drug dealers to shoot each other. I like illegal guns, they thin the heard of the criminal element and have no effect of honest people's lives.
Thank god I can walk thru any neighborhood in Canada at any hour unarmed and feel totally safe. I would hate to feel I had to carry a weapon, that must make you people feel like less of a man. I guess you even have that same fear in your own house, you hear a bump and grab the gun. It's so cowardly. I see why you people are always accidentally shooting your family members though.


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    #22371180 - 10/12/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Here's the most conservative Prime Minister we've had in Australia for 50 years. He brought in gun control and we haven't had a mass shooting for nearly 20 years.






Kennesaw Georgia passed a law almost 30 years ago that required the head of
household of every home to own a gun, they've had only 1 murder in that 30
years

http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/

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    #22371282 - 10/12/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

why does canadians always feel so strongly about anti guns when most of you guys have never used one for hunting or sport?

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    #22371296 - 10/12/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I've noticed that the Canadian and Australian members are more pissed about gun control then american liberals. I don't really get it. Could be a jealously thing or something considering we still have the strongest economy in the world and have to support them constantly.:fonda:


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    #22371302 - 10/12/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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why does canadians always feel so strongly about anti guns when most of you guys have never used one for hunting or sport?

i never understood this.





australians are even worse... and the bad part, they cant do anything right



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    #22371312 - 10/12/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah I've noticed that the Canadian and Australian members are more pissed about gun control then american liberals. I don't really get it. Could be a jealously thing or something considering we still have the strongest economy in the world and have to support them constantly.:fonda:





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11293694/Islamists-take-hostages-in-Sydney-cafe-siege-live.html

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    #22371325 - 10/12/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A lot of Canadians do use guns for hunting, more so in rural areas. I wouldn't consider myself anti-gun but I don't particularly want one myself, and I find the idea of having one for personal protection rather foreign. I don't think Canadian style gun laws would be a good fit in the US or vice versa.


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    #22371347 - 10/12/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i have read the canadian gun laws.

they are worse than california, but that would be the closest i know of..

and yeah, i agree with you on that. 

i just dont know why canada seemingly feels so damned strongly about shit they know nothing about.

guns will always be a hot button for conversation in america.

and i will always own guns and will continually take my friends out camping, go shoot exploding targets and will keep having a good time with them.


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    #22371382 - 10/12/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I wouldn't consider myself anti-gun but I don't particularly want one myself





the anti gunners arent actually anti gun either because they arent doing anything
to remove the guns from the hands of criminals, only from law abiding citizens
under the guise of 'common sense gun laws'. let's say koods got his way and guns
were outlawed, who would come for the guns? people with guns called the police,
who would protect the koods' of the nation, those same people with guns, who would
enforce the laws, those same people with guns. who would protect the country,
people with guns. who would protect his lord and savior the almighty obama, more
people with guns.

so there arent any anti gun advocates, they only want the government to have guns
and the big question is why should the government be the only ones with guns, I
mean I'm sure if we look far enough back in history we can find a government that
didnt impose high taxes, abuse and enslave it's people or even begin murdering
those that disagreed with their political ideology... I mean koods is way the
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    #22371448 - 10/13/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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spookman said:

Here's the most conservative Prime Minister we've had in Australia for 50 years. He brought in gun control and we haven't had a mass shooting for nearly 20 years.






Kennesaw Georgia passed a law almost 30 years ago that required the head of
household of every home to own a gun, they've had only 1 murder in that 30
years

http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/

not to mention this

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/10/police-praise-concealed-permit-holder-stopping-waffle-house-robbery/



Kennesaw Georgia has a population of less than 30,000. My hometown is bigger and there's not been a single murder in my 40 years. Small towns are like that.

You shouldn't have bothered mentioning your second point. Since you did, there's also the fucking idiot woman who pulled out her gun and shot at the Home Depot shoplifter in a crowded parking lot in Detroit last week. What if that fucking idiot had killed a child, or a parent?

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Yeah I've noticed that the Canadian and Australian members are more pissed about gun control then american liberals. I don't really get it. Could be a jealously thing or something considering we still have the strongest economy in the world and have to support them constantly.:fonda:



We're not jealous, we're gobsmacked at your country's ongoing insanity.

The US is a great country in many ways. However, a population of 300 million means it is a statistical truth that you have over 100 million people of below-average intelligence. From the outside, you pander to stupid, ignorant, bible-bashers at the expense of logic.

The anti-gun controllers argue, either ignorantly or disingenuously, that 'the right to bear arms' written in the Second Ammendment back when 'arms' meant 'musket', gives anyone and everyone the right to possess military-scale weapons. They ignore the first part of the phrase regarding the 'well regulated militia'. Congrats though, you've successfully bullied the judiciary and executive branches into seeing it your way. Good for you, go buy an AK-47 for 'protection'.

The point most of us onlookers mystified and saddened by your continuing, frequent, awful, almost totally preventable mass murders realise that you don't seem to, is you don't need an assault rifle if you don't intend to assault anyone with it. Assault rifles are designed to shoot lots of people, very quickly - and guess what? That's what happens!



By the way, you don't have the strongest economy in the world. Your nation is trillions in debt. It's the largest economy, but only recently you had to print extra money because you were so broke. China owns so much US debt and bonds it could bankrupt you at any time.

You don't support my country at all, other than a military alliance that has resulted in us helping you far more than the other way around.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: spookman]
    #22371479 - 10/13/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Here's the most conservative Prime Minister we've had in Australia for 50 years. He brought in gun control and we haven't had a mass shooting for nearly 20 years.






Kennesaw Georgia passed a law almost 30 years ago that required the head of
household of every home to own a gun, they've had only 1 murder in that 30
years

http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/

not to mention this

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/10/police-praise-concealed-permit-holder-stopping-waffle-house-robbery/



Kennesaw Georgia has a population of less than 30,000. My hometown is bigger and there's not been a single murder in my 40 years. Small towns are like that.




30k isnt a big city but it's certainly no small town, it's a part of the metro
atlanta area and neighbors a city that has a growing crime problem, in fact,
they're at around 1/4 the national average on crime, 1/3 of the average for
georgia and less than half the crime rate for the county they're in. the really
amazing part, their crime rate has fallen in relationship to the population
growth, they were a small town of only 4500 people, the crime hasnt simply
dropped, it's dropped significantly, well, that's kind of a misstatement since
the numbers of violent crimes committed hasnt really increased while the
population has more than quintupled


what city did you say you lived in?

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You shouldn't have bothered mentioning your second point. Since you did, there's also the fucking idiot woman who pulled out her gun and shot at the Home Depot shoplifter in a crowded parking lot in Detroit last week. What if that fucking idiot had killed a child, or a parent?




so now that australians are disarmed, the crime problem is completely gone,
right. no murders, no armed robberies, no problems at all, no mass killings
such as a family murdered, several school children stabbed to death, no problem
with knife violence when they feel beer is the problem


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22371614 - 10/13/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22372288 - 10/13/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

LOL at the canadians and australians crying over our guns.  Sorry you're all feeble and helpless :cookiemonster:


When WWIII starts you guys wont be crying anymore, at least Canada wont be.  Our guns are going to keep out a foreign invasion.

I need to clean my pistol grip pump and my AR :dancer:


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Herbologist]
    #22372399 - 10/13/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm a proud gun owner and just wanting to be included in this thread.


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    #22372403 - 10/13/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm a proud gun owner and just wanting to be included in this thread.




Soon to be one too. Hunting season is opening soon, I just might get myself a rifle.


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    #22372410 - 10/13/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm a proud gun owner and just wanting to be included in this thread.




Soon to be one too. Hunting season is opening soon, I just might get myself a rifle.





You better register that rifle and I better see all its paper work down to the nitty gritty.  I want full scale mental health evaluation as well.  Who was your mother?  Your father?

What kind of animals are you hunting?  Helpless ones?  Where do you plan to "hunt" and begin your mass killings to "feed" yourself?


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    #22372422 - 10/13/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't hunt nor will I even, but I love me some target practice! :grin:

(That doesn't mean I'm against people that do hunt, but poaching is fucked)

But I've been recently thinking about picking up a rifle aswell.


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    #22372437 - 10/13/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You better register that rifle and I better see all its paper work down to the nitty gritty. 




You're not seeing shit. This confidential info

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I want full scale mental health evaluation as well. 




Also confidential, but I have several mental health issues if it makes you happy

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What kind of animals are you hunting?  Helpless ones?  Where do you plan to "hunt" and begin your mass killings to "feed" yourself?




Deer, partridges, hare. Game animals.

And yes of course it's to feed myself. Catching a deer equals like 80 pounds of meat at roughly 2 a pound after the butchering. No better meat deals out there.


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    #22372457 - 10/13/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm a proud gun owner and just wanting to be included in this thread.




Soon to be one too. Hunting season is opening soon, I just might get myself a rifle.





You better register that rifle and I better see all its paper work down to the nitty gritty.  I want full scale mental health evaluation as well.  Who was your mother?  Your father?

What kind of animals are you hunting?  Helpless ones?  Where do you plan to "hunt" and begin your mass killings to "feed" yourself?





dont forget, he needs to provide pictures of it and the location it wll be in the
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    #22372562 - 10/13/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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LOL at the canadians and australians crying over our guns.  Sorry you're all feeble and helpless :cookiemonster:




Personally I'm not bothered in the least by how things are done in your country (with respect to guns or anything else) as I don't live there and am not subject to it. I have no objection to American gun laws, and don't think that making them more restrictive would achieve anything useful (due to both cultural and logistic factors.) I do think it's a good thing that handguns are in fairly limited supply here, but I don't think similar laws would work in the US because there are already mass numbers of them, plus legal and cultural factors making the scenario very unlikely in the first place.

It's more just that American gun culture and the seeming paranoia that's sometimes associated with some parts of it (of criminals, foreign or domestic governments etc.) seems odd from the outside looking in. (Not saying there necessarily isn't a good reason to be more concerned about violent crime than here though.) Can't count the number of times online that I've read someone's elaborate fantasy of someday getting to legally shoot someone in self-defense either. Not saying that stuff is remotely representative of all gun owners, but it doesn't seem to be nearly as much of a fringe thing as it would be here. It all seems very weird to me as an outsider, but again, I don't particularly give a fuck as it doesn't concern me.


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    #22372724 - 10/13/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm a proud gun owner and just wanting to be included in this thread.




Soon to be one too. Hunting season is opening soon, I just might get myself a rifle.



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I don't hunt nor will I even, but I love me some target practice! :grin:

(That doesn't mean I'm against people that do hunt, but poaching is fucked)

But I've been recently thinking about picking up a rifle aswell.





I would suggest an AR-15. If you wanted to use it for hunting you'd have to pick yourself up a 5 round magazine. At least here in Colorado you can't use a rifle with more than 5 rounds at a time.

Also if you want to purchase a high cap magazine like a 30 round magazine you have to ask for a 30 round magazine parts kit. This is only for states that have a ban on high cap mags. You can still get around it though by asking for parts kits.

Also here is some good sites to get ammo!

http://gunbot.net/

http://ammoseek.com/

And if you decide to get an ar, make sure it is chambered for 5.56x45mm. That way you can shoot .223 Rem through it. 223 is much cheaper ammo. But if you are gonna be hunting large game, I suggest a .308 and/or 454 Casull.


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    #22372778 - 10/13/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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LOL at the canadians and australians crying over our guns.  Sorry you're all feeble and helpless :cookiemonster:




Personally I'm not bothered in the least by how things are done in your country (with respect to guns or anything else) as I don't live there and am not subject to it. I have no objection to American gun laws, and don't think that making them more restrictive would achieve anything useful (due to both cultural and logistic factors.) I do think it's a good thing that handguns are in fairly limited supply here, but I don't think similar laws would work in the US because there are already mass numbers of them, plus legal and cultural factors making the scenario very unlikely in the first place.

It's more just that American gun culture and the seeming paranoia that's sometimes associated with some parts of it (of criminals, foreign or domestic governments etc.) seems odd from the outside looking in. (Not saying there necessarily isn't a good reason to be more concerned about violent crime than here though.) Can't count the number of times online that I've read someone's elaborate fantasy of someday getting to legally shoot someone in self-defense either. Not saying that stuff is remotely representative of all gun owners, but it doesn't seem to be nearly as much of a fringe thing as it would be here. It all seems very weird to me as an outsider, but again, I don't particularly give a fuck as it doesn't concern me.




I'll add to that.

1) As a neighbor, I wish the US the best

Then again, I'm not gonna go out of my way other than argue on a forum over guns. It's your problem not mine. Tens of thousands of lives could be save by slowly phasing out handguns. Keep the rifles. Keep the AR15s. The problem I have is with handguns because they are concealable and too damm easy to use. You don't even need the courage to walk up to somebody, you can just walk face to face with the guy and 10 feet away pull out a gun and put a few pounds of pressure on the trigger using only your index finger and the guy is dead... Too damn easy. Of course there are cases of self defense, it's inevitable at this point that a good guy with a gun killed a bad guy with a gun. But getting to say that sentence has a tremendous cost in lives.

Rifle and AR15. You see them coming. Sure you can hide it and pretend to limp or whatever, but generally its much harder to conceal.

And the paranoia..... Jesus christ you guys are paranoid... To a ridiculous extent too. That inherent fear of a home invader. The even bigger fear that he's ther to kill your family instead of just taking the TV. How many enemies do you have??? There's also that pride and bravado I don't get... "If someone walks into my house, I shoot him dead!!!". Why? Do you want to live with that your entire life? Do you want to go to therapy for weeks? Do you want that possible lawsuit that may or may not come with it? What's the reasoning behind that need to kill an invader? I mean, I get it if you'r a biker or are deep in gambling debts and shit, but other than that, it's ridiculous in my mind.

Also you can change the 2nd amendment. It's called an amendment. If the govenment was truly there to oppress you, your AR15s are not gonna pierce through a tank's armour. The range is not long enough to hit a bomber. You don't have any means of defense against carriers and destroyers, you have no military organization in place. Basically, you guys are fucked with or without guns at this point.

But here's something more encouraging. armed or not, an uprising of 3.5% of the general population can topple the most cruel and violent dictator. So in the US that would be roughly 10 to 12 million people. At that critical percentage, 3 things are getting more and more inevitable. 1) The dictator get assassinated. 2) The dicator loses control of the army. 3) The people stop fearing the oppression (a true militia is created and is big enough to take back the cities).

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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22372813 - 10/13/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

First of all, wouldn't it be convenient to have a handgun that is concealed and ready accessible to level the playing field with a bad guy with the same thing??? Why do cops carry handguns??

It's because they are convenient and not burdensome.

You take away some guns, it leaves room to take away all guns.


And you can't change the 2nd amendment. Doesn't matter if you do it on paper. The founding father's put down what was in their heart of hearts on that paper and that dream is alive and well in a fraction of firearm owners. So you can't change the 2nd amendment because you might as well be taking out the life liberty and pursuit of happiness part in the declaration as well.

But at this point it's moot. Only because you are Canadian. And not to mention the only Canadian I ever knew was a fucking dick...



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    #22372826 - 10/13/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And you can't change the 2nd amendment. Doesn't matter if you do it on paper. The founding father's put down what was in their heart of hearts on that paper and that dream is alive and well is a fraction of firearm owners. So you can't change the 2nd amendment because you might as well be taking out the life liberty and pursuit of happiness part in the declaration as well.
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Alright, technically you can't "change" the 2nd amendment. You can only create a new one that voids it... You scored there.

As for liberties and happiness and whatnot, you can also create an amendment that voids the 1st, 2nd 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.....


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    #22372836 - 10/13/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And you can't change the 2nd amendment. Doesn't matter if you do it on paper. The founding father's put down what was in their heart of hearts on that paper and that dream is alive and well is a fraction of firearm owners. So you can't change the 2nd amendment because you might as well be taking out the life liberty and pursuit of happiness part in the declaration as well.
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Alright, technically you can't "change" the 2nd amendment. You can only create a new one that voids it... You scored there.

As for liberties and happiness and whatnot, you can also create an amendment that voids the 1st, 2nd 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.....




On paper you can but there will always be a desire for freedom so it doesn't matter what you do to the constitution. We already have what it takes to restore it.


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    #22372854 - 10/13/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And you can't change the 2nd amendment. Doesn't matter if you do it on paper. The founding father's put down what was in their heart of hearts on that paper and that dream is alive and well is a fraction of firearm owners. So you can't change the 2nd amendment because you might as well be taking out the life liberty and pursuit of happiness part in the declaration as well.
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Alright, technically you can't "change" the 2nd amendment. You can only create a new one that voids it... You scored there.

As for liberties and happiness and whatnot, you can also create an amendment that voids the 1st, 2nd 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.....




On paper you can but there will always be a desire for freedom so it doesn't matter what you do to the constitution. We already have what it takes to restore it.




Well, technically speaking, you elect congress. If a bill is presented and is voted in and 3/4s of the states agree with it, then the constitution officially has a new amendment no matter what it says


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    #22372885 - 10/13/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Power of the people bro. Congress is there for an expression of that power. Very good and very bad things could happen if the people banded together. Even if it is just small groups. That is why we in America use congress and politicians to express the desires of millions in a civilized manner. When it comes down to it though, none of us need to be led. We are self-sufficient to govern ourselves. Even in a world of chaos.


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    #22373070 - 10/13/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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First of all, wouldn't it be convenient to have a handgun that is concealed and ready accessible to level the playing field with a bad guy with the same thing??? Why do cops carry handguns??

It's because they are convenient and not burdensome.

You take away some guns, it leaves room to take away all guns.


And you can't change the 2nd amendment. Doesn't matter if you do it on paper. The founding father's put down what was in their heart of hearts on that paper and that dream is alive and well in a fraction of firearm owners. So you can't change the 2nd amendment because you might as well be taking out the life liberty and pursuit of happiness part in the declaration as well.

But at this point it's moot. Only because you are Canadian. And not to mention the only Canadian I ever knew was a fucking dick...






You can't change the second amendment? We got another constitutional scholar here that doesn't know shit about the constitution.


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    #22373096 - 10/13/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This happened this morning. It's not America it's Jerusalem.

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But the attacker was on meth and on a rampage. And some random dude with a hand gun responsibly walked over and got as close to him as possibles as to not miss and hit unintended targets.

You shouldn't need to be secret service or a cop or any kind of security agent to be able to defend yourself from lunatics. Not every country is Iceland where most of the citizens don't know anyone who's had there house burgled.

I've been burglarized, my girlfriend has been too. Her mom once had a guy attempt to car jack her but put up a fight and the dude gave up.

Crazy shit happens all the time randomly, I have needle and thread in my first aid kit that I put together. Do I really think I'm gonna actually sew my own fuckin skin shut if I get a huge cut? Not really but if an emergency happens and I can't rely on outside help from anyone else because of say an earthquake or something. I'd rather have something and not need it than need it and not have it.


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    #22373118 - 10/13/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Burglarized? You would shoot a burglar? The American mentality is fucked. Taking a life over some property.  Y'all are fucking sick in the head


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    #22373150 - 10/13/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Good on you for being self-sufficient friend. Don't mind koods. It angers him to see someone in control of their own life as he is but a fart in the wind.


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    #22373208 - 10/13/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Fortunately I live in a more civilized part of the U.S. Where people go to jail for shooting a burglar.


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    #22373228 - 10/13/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yea I'm sure that law keeps hundreds of would-be burglars and rapists at bay...

By the way... Civility is a learned behavior. We are all animals and will kill if it comes down to it. Don't act so high and mighty because you are so much more "developed" than me or any other gun owner that would protect his life. I hope nothing ever happens to you or your family because it sounds like you're too weak to put up any fight.


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    #22373248 - 10/13/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Burglarized? You would shoot a burglar? The American mentality is fucked. Taking a life over some property.  Y'all are fucking sick in the head




Sick in the head is allowing someone to take what you have worked for. You don't shoot decent people, you shoot scumbags. Thieves are scumbags that the world is better off without.

You don't just shoot burglars. You kill them.


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    #22373256 - 10/13/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Protecting your property by taking someone's life is not civil behavior. It is barbaric and immoral. You call yourself a Christian, yet you fantasize about killing people.


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    #22373259 - 10/13/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Burglarized? You would shoot a burglar? The American mentality is fucked. Taking a life over some property.  Y'all are fucking sick in the head




Sick in the head is allowing someone to take what you have worked for. You don't shoot decent people, you shoot scumbags. Thieves are scumbags that the world is better off without.

You don't just shoot burglars. You kill them.




Well where I live, if you shoot an unarmed burglar you go to jail. As it should be.


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    #22373270 - 10/13/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You live in a pathetic place. No surprise there.

But don't worry, there are ways to shoot and kill burglars even where you live.


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    #22373277 - 10/13/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Your property is your life nimrod....

If you work 40 years of your life and invest in gold and silver and someone comes along and steals that which you own. That which you paid your time, hard work, and life into. You are not only right to kill that person, you are obligated to. If you don't, you're as weak as the person trying to say that it is wrong to kill someone for that. Or you are just a thief.....


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    #22373284 - 10/13/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Shiitthead doesn't know how to debate with words. He thinks all arguments should be settled with a gun. He thinks I'm trolling because I make counter arguments to his positions.


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    #22373297 - 10/13/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Your property is your life nimrod....

If you work 40 years of your life and invest in gold and silver and someone comes along and steals that which you own. That which you paid your time, hard work, and life into. You are not only right to kill that person, you are obligated to. If you don't, you're as weak as the person trying to say that it is wrong to kill someone for that. Or you are just a thief.....




Your property is not your life. This is exactly the perverted mentality that is destroying this country.


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    #22373299 - 10/13/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps he thinks you're trolling because so many of your positions reek of stupidity.


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    #22373307 - 10/13/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Your property is not your life. This is exactly the perverted mentality that is destroying this country.




A persons possessions are worth far more than the life of the idiot that would steal them.

Scumbags are what's destroying this country. That and the buffoons.


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    #22373319 - 10/13/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You live in fantasy land.

And you're weak. I hope you don't have children because I would be ashamed of the man that you claim to be. That is even if they reach the age to come to that conclusion.....

I'll end with this... We don't live in a safe world. We live in a kill or be killed world. No matter what you think, there will always be someone out there that wants what you have. And don't you dare say this way of thinking is ruining this country. Give me liberty or give me death is what created this country and what is keeping it alive. It is liberal pussies like yourself that are making America a joke. I hope you get a clue or at the very least just find a new home. I don't want you to stay in America if you feel uncomfortable.


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    #22373328 - 10/13/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You live in a pathetic place. No surprise there.

But don't worry, there are ways to shoot and kill burglars even where you live.




"There are ways" wow. This totally belies your true intentions. You just want to shoot someone. That's what it comes down to with most of you gun nuts. A perverted sense of entitlement and jutiice that lacks any common decency. Thjs culture you have immersed yourselves in is sick.


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    #22373336 - 10/13/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You live in fantasy land.

And you're weak. I hope you don't have children because I would be ashamed of the man that you claim to be. That is even if they reach the age to come to that conclusion.....

I'll end with this... We don't live in a safe world. We live in a kill or be killed world. No matter what you think, there will always be someone out there that wants what you have. And don't you dare say this way of thinking is ruining this country. Give me liberty or give me death is what created this country and what is keeping it alive. It is liberal pussies like yourself that are making America a joke. I hope you get a clue or at the very least just find a new home. I don't want you to stay in America if you feel uncomfortable.



Naw. Someone who can't imagine living without their precious gun is weak. Real men can defend themselves without a crutch.

And we don't live in a kill or be killed world. You think that we do probably because you surround yourself with lunatics and people who have no common sense.


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    #22373343 - 10/13/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Naw. Someone who can't imagine living without their precious gun is weak. Real men can defend themselves without a crutch.




This is something a coward would say...


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    #22373345 - 10/13/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

congress is too scared to make legislation some gun nut will cap them if it happens


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    #22373351 - 10/13/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This is why I have Koods blocked, he wreaks of a pathetic human being and stupidity so much that even being blocked I cant stand him


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    #22373354 - 10/13/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's not as aggressive as that.

It's more like this...



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    #22373368 - 10/13/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Naw. Someone who can't imagine living without their precious gun is weak. Real men can defend themselves without a crutch.




This is something a coward would say...




You are emasculated without your gun. Look a your avatar. Normal people don't take pictures like that.


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you can be right and still suffer
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    #22373401 - 10/13/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The entire premise of this thread shows weakness. You are afraid of the debate itself. Other people's words terrify you. You are scared if we keep talking about this someone may decide that the thing you think makes you a man in your avatar, the gun, will be taken from you.


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    #22373414 - 10/13/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There is no debate. It is kill or be killed.

That is why the thread is called /Gun Control Debates dipfuck...

I'm sorry you're too weak-minded to see that.


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    #22373419 - 10/13/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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you can be right and still suffer
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heh heh..




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    #22373424 - 10/13/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You live in a pathetic place. No surprise there.

But don't worry, there are ways to shoot and kill burglars even where you live.




"There are ways" wow. This totally belies your true intentions. You just want to shoot someone.




Nope. I've owned and carried guns for decades. If I wanted to shoot someone, I could have easily done so.


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That's what it comes down to with most of you gun nuts. A perverted sense of entitlement and jutiice that lacks any common decency.




Wrong again. A person is entitled to the fruits of their labors. There's nothing perverted about it.

Working hard and enjoying the fruits of ones labor is perverted? The lack of decency is on the part of the scumbags.


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Thjs culture you have immersed yourselves in is sick.




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    #22373434 - 10/13/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Real men can defend themselves without a crutch.




So the weak, infirm, elderly and disabled should allow the wolves to feed? You have a seriously fucked up outlook on life. Why do you dislike the weak, infirm, elderly and disabled so much? What did they do to you?


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And we don't live in a kill or be killed world. You think that we do probably because you surround yourself with lunatics and people who have no common sense.




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    #22373445 - 10/13/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The entire premise of this thread shows weakness.




It reveals your personal weakness. Kudos for being brave enough to show what a doormat you are.


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    #22373462 - 10/13/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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There is no debate. It is kill or be killed.



This is the most unamerican thing I've ever seen posted here. You should be embarrassed, not just by the fact that you aren't a man without your gun, but that you can't settle your differences without it.


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    #22373478 - 10/13/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I can settle differences without it. That is why I am still discussing this....

The only difference I won't settle without my gun(s) is if you try to take my life.

If you see a problem with that, you are either the thief or weak-minded. I'm willing to choose the latter because you still have a chance in my book. It's not your fault your dumb...


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    #22373508 - 10/13/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's probably not your fault you lack a sense of morality.


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    #22373514 - 10/13/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If you see a problem with that, you are either the thief or weak-minded.




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    #22373528 - 10/13/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If you see a problem with that, you are either the thief or weak-minded.







koods can't handle dissent and would rather insult ones manhood.

It also appears he dislikes the weak, infirm, elderly and disabled.


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    #22373532 - 10/13/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22373539 - 10/13/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If you see a problem with that, you are either the thief or weak-minded.







koods can't handle dissent and would rather insult ones manhood.

It also appears he dislikes the weak, infirm, elderly and disabled.



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    #22373541 - 10/13/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You earned a spot in my sig shitthead




It's two "I's" not two "T's"


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    #22373553 - 10/13/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

BTW Shitthead, Nimrod is from the old testament, not the part with Jesus.


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    #22373561 - 10/13/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You earned a spot in my sig shitthead




It's two "I's" not two "T's"



Sorry it's hard keeping up with the way other people misspell words.


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    #22373564 - 10/13/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If you see a problem with that, you are either the thief or weak-minded.







koods can't handle dissent and would rather insult ones manhood.

It also appears he dislikes the weak, infirm, elderly and disabled.



Shitthead isn't elderly.




Perhaps, but some of those you dislike enough to leave defenseless likely are.


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    #22373571 - 10/13/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry it's hard keeping up with the way other people misspell words.




Actually it's not misspelled it's a play on the words shithead and shiitake.


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    #22373582 - 10/13/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A portmanteau :cookiemonster:


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    #22373590 - 10/13/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:douchewink:


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    #22373614 - 10/13/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just look at Switzerland

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    #22373650 - 10/13/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Look at Germany; April 12 1928 - Sept 2 1945


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    #22373678 - 10/13/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Just look at Switzerland

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You're right. Let's look at Switzerland which has exactly the type of tgun control that scares the hell out of people like Shitthead. I fully support implementing Switzerland's gun policies. No concealed carry unless you are employed in a security related field. Permits with background checks for all gun purchases and transfers. Permits required for all ammunition purchases. No automatic weapons allowed to be owned by private citizens. No armor piercing or deforming billets.

Thank you Uzziel for demonstrating that gun control laws actually do work :cookiemonster:


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    #22373690 - 10/13/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

People pretending like the world isn't dangerous does scare me.

Google security theater...


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    #22373699 - 10/13/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Look at Germany; April 12 1928 - Sept 2 1945




What you mean how the US and Europe left Germany so poor from WW1 that the Reich regime was able to take place because they unified the country, brought wealth and prosperity and gave us one of the biggest tragedies because we allowed the reich to take place?

Yeah ok. Lets fucking LOOK at it... shall we?


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    #22373733 - 10/13/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

April 12 1928 is the day Germany's gun control law passed. October 1 is when it went into affect. Do you really think Hitler would have rose to power if the percentage of people in Germany owned as many guns as the people who own guns in America? No...

Germany wouldn't have been a superpower if the people weren't such sheep and kept the country in line.

This is where anti-gun enthusiasts fail to make the connection...

A good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun. It doesn't even have to be a gun, that is just where our technology has gotten us.

Back in the day a good guy with a sword could stop a bad guy with a sword. You can't stop people from creating weapons or firearms. What you can do however is make it unappealing to use those weapons against good people.


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    #22373736 - 10/13/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Just look at Switzerland

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You're right. Let's look at Switzerland which has exactly the type of tgun control that scares the hell out of people like Shitthead. I fully support implementing Switzerland's gun policies. No concealed carry unless you are employed in a security related field. Permits with background checks for all gun purchases and transfers. Permits required for all ammunition purchases. No automatic weapons allowed to be owned by private citizens. No armor piercing or deforming billets.

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You cannot bring ammunition home. So that settles that...


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    #22373760 - 10/13/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hitler didnt take over the country despite the will of the country. He did it because he was the most popular politician of his time. He was a right wing xenophobic ideologue, the exact type of person the majoriy of gun nut in this country would have supported.


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    #22373761 - 10/13/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Just look at Switzerland

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You're right. Let's look at Switzerland which has exactly the type of tgun control that scares the hell out of people like Shitthead. I fully support implementing Switzerland's gun policies. No concealed carry unless you are employed in a security related field. Permits with background checks for all gun purchases and transfers. Permits required for all ammunition purchases. No automatic weapons allowed to be owned by private citizens. No armor piercing or deforming billets.

Thank you Uzziel for demonstrating that gun control laws actually do work :cookiemonster:




.......They also mandate all citizens have military training and that all citizens learn how to shoot said guns.

Gun control works when you have responsible citizens with proper training.


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    #22373775 - 10/13/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Cuz gun nuts would support gun control right?


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    #22373782 - 10/13/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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April 12 1928 is the day Germany's gun control law passed. October 1 is when it went into affect. Do you really think Hitler would have rose to power if the percentage of people in Germany owned as many guns as the people who own guns in America? No...

Germany wouldn't have been a superpower if the people weren't such sheep and kept the country in line.






Germany as a whole was so poor it didn't even matter. The reich regime unified the nation and the people loved the reich because of it. Not all agreed and the ones who were verbal were shot.

Yes. They were going to be a superpower one way or the other through the reich.

I'm going to just assume you're not a history buff and you should really go deeper into detail than just flaunt that a gun law allowed the reich to take power.


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    #22373794 - 10/13/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not all citizens. Just men. I guess you don't think women should be trained how to defend themselves (is something that luvdemshroom would say right now)


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    #22373816 - 10/13/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Shitthead doesn't have a great grasp on history. Hitler didn't introduce gun control policy, he was actually the in the opposition to the party that introduced those policies.


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    #22373820 - 10/13/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Not all citizens. Just men. I guess you don't think women should be trained how to defend themselves (is something that luvdemshroom would say right now)




I'm trying to find the post that has me say "I don't think women should be trained" and I just can't find it.

I appreciate you not projecting your thoughts and act like they are mine.

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    #22373850 - 10/13/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Not all citizens. Just men. I guess you don't think women should be trained how to defend themselves (is something that luvdemshroom would say right now)




You're not smart enough to know what I'd say. You've made that quite clear on many occasions.

How does an infirm, disabled or weak person defend themselves against someone bigger, stronger, or possibly trained?


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    #22373870 - 10/13/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Apparently like this...



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    #22373912 - 10/13/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Not all citizens. Just men. I guess you don't think women should be trained how to defend themselves (is something that luvdemshroom would say right now)




You're not smart enough to know what I'd say. You've made that quite clear on many occasions.

How does an infirm, disabled or weak person defend themselves against someone bigger, stronger, or possibly trained?




I cant believe Shitthead sits back and let's you call him infirm, weak and disabled.


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    #22373922 - 10/13/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I can't believe you're a mod.


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    #22373933 - 10/13/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you defending the weak, Infirm and disabled. Don't you believe their death just takes them out of the gene pool. If you can't defend yourself, you are no better than someone crossing the road who can't judge how fast a car is coming at them. Or does that only apply to non whites?


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    #22373963 - 10/13/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I cant believe Shitthead sits back and let's you call him infirm, weak and disabled.




I'm sure he'd object if I did.

I can't believe you couldn't come up with a line that's actually clever.

Oh wait, I've read enough of your posts to realize that was likely one of your best shots. Too bad you missed... again.


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    #22373971 - 10/13/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are you defending the weak, Infirm and disabled. Don't you believe their death just takes them out of the gene pool. If you can't defend yourself, you are no better than someone crossing the road who can't judge how fast a car is coming at them. Or does that only apply to non whites?




I won't speak for him, but I do it because I recognize that people come in all shapes, sizes and abilities. I don't share your desire to throw them to the wolves.

Did someone weak, elderly or infirm piss on your breakfast?


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    #22374010 - 10/13/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Burglarized? You would shoot a burglar? The American mentality is fucked. Taking a life over some property.  Y'all are fucking sick in the head




If someone breaks into your home in the middle of the night, how do you know they are burglars or rapists? How do you tell the difference between someone there to kill you because they are insane or someone there to snatch some Xbox games and bongs? Do they have different patches or flags? Different colored uniforms?

How do we know this random stranger breaking into your home isn't on the run from the police for a crime and is willing to take you and your family hostage?

Also just because someone breaks into your house and you have a gun does not mean your only option is to shoot them. You could just pull the gun out on them and threaten to shoot them, and tell them to leave, if they try anything funny they get put down.


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    #22374030 - 10/13/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Burglarized? You would shoot a burglar? The American mentality is fucked. Taking a life over some property.  Y'all are fucking sick in the head




If someone breaks into your home in the middle of the night, how do you know they are burglars or rapists? How do you tell the difference between someone there to kill you because they are insane or someone there to snatch some Xbox games and bongs? Do they have different patches or flags? Different colored uniforms?

How do we know this random stranger breaking into your home isn't on the run from the police for a crime and is willing to take you and your family hostage?

Also just because someone breaks into your house and you have a gun does not mean your only option is to shoot them. You could just pull the gun out on them and threaten to shoot them, and tell them to leave, if they try anything funny they get put down.




Don't you know? Burglars have to wave a flag, blow a whistle and then loudly proclaim... "I'm here to steal your shit, not to rape or murder. I pinky swear."


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    #22374046 - 10/13/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22375729 - 10/13/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Leave guns alone, Outlaw Bullets, No law against that.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Anahata] * 1
    #22376010 - 10/13/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'm sure a lot of gun owners would gladly hand over their bullets to anyone who tried to take them. They would keep the bullet casings though.

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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Anahata]
    #22376114 - 10/13/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i reload everything i shoot.. minus shotguns and .22lr obvious reasons there.

good fucking luck. with that.


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    #22376178 - 10/13/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ehh, they'll eventually ware out, or you'll lose em. Either way, they will become a thing of the past. Then any one caught shooting them will be prison bait. But hey your right to bear arms won't be infringed.


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    #22376217 - 10/13/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

my guess is you are wrong just on speculative bullshit alone.

if i lose brass, its not very much in the big scheme of things.  and yes, i have the tools and the technology to smelt my own lead.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Anahata]
    #22376368 - 10/13/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Leave guns alone, Outlaw Bullets, No law against that.





cant outlaw bullets.


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    #22376383 - 10/13/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Gun Control?  You let our breath half out and squeeze the trigger, the bullet flies true to the target, killing or maiming the fucking son of a bitch who was threatening you and your family.

what's so hard about that?


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Anahata]
    #22376391 - 10/13/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Ehh, they'll eventually ware out, or you'll lose em. Either way, they will become a thing of the past. Then any one caught shooting them will be prison bait. But hey your right to bear arms won't be infringed.






I don't need no stinking bullets.


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    #22376396 - 10/13/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

CAN YOU NOT SEE THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THESE GUNS AND BULLETS?!?!?!




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    #22376495 - 10/13/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i am pretty sure i just counted over 3k of 556 ammo in my room alone.

im too lazy to go in the garage, i am lucky i made it that high in the count.

fuck anti gunners.


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    #22376595 - 10/14/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I love guns


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    #22376617 - 10/14/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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CAN YOU NOT SEE THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THESE GUNS AND BULLETS?!?!?!








Arent those ones with the flat fronts 6.54365 1/11 caliber?  the blunt tips do a lot of damage.  A hell of a lot of damage. :popcorn:


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: rackem]
    #22376717 - 10/14/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Even if you outlaw bullets casings, lead, primers, and powder can still be bought and sold. It's like the high cap mag bans. You can still buy "parts kits".


Also you could just buy one of these xD



They are for building homes.


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    #22376882 - 10/14/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

http://gawker.com/it-might-take-some-good-guys-with-dildos-to-keep-guns-o-1736065108

Back in June, Texas approved a “campus carry” law that would allow anyone with a license to bring a concealed handgun onto the state’s public university campuses. It goes into effect August 1, 2016—that is, unless some good guys with big dildos manage to stop it.

University of Texas grad Jessica Jin has started a campaign called Cocks Not Glocks, asking students to protest the introduction of legal guns on campus by open-carrying giant fake dicks on campus—the logic being that sex toys, although they are not deadly in most circumstances, are still banned while firearms are permitted.

As Jin puts it, a dildo is “just about as effective at protecting us from sociopathic shooters, but much safer for recreational play.”

A Texas law banning the “display of obscene material” makes wielding a dildo in a public place like the UT campus a class C misdemeanor subject to a $500 fine, but Jin’s logic is that UT police may block one cock, but they can’t block ‘em all.

“Participate at your own risk,” she writes, “But can you imagine the gongshow that would be UTPD/APD trying to chase down thousands of students wielding harmless dildos around campus?”

I can, and it is a delight.

The gongshow begins August 24, according to the Campus (DILDO) Carry Facebook group.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22377366 - 10/14/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Anahata said:
Leave guns alone, Outlaw Bullets, No law against that.





cant outlaw bullets.




Tax the shit out of them then. Perfectly legal


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22377437 - 10/14/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Get enough like minded people to agree and you can outlaw anything, Weather it makes sense or not.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Anahata] * 1
    #22377555 - 10/14/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Konyap said:
http://gawker.com/it-might-take-some-good-guys-with-dildos-to-keep-guns-o-1736065108

Back in June, Texas approved a “campus carry” law that would allow anyone with a license to bring a concealed handgun onto the state’s public university campuses. It goes into effect August 1, 2016—that is, unless some good guys with big dildos manage to stop it.

University of Texas grad Jessica Jin has started a campaign called Cocks Not Glocks, asking students to protest the introduction of legal guns on campus by open-carrying giant fake dicks on campus—the logic being that sex toys, although they are not deadly in most circumstances, are still banned while firearms are permitted.

As Jin puts it, a dildo is “just about as effective at protecting us from sociopathic shooters, but much safer for recreational play.”

A Texas law banning the “display of obscene material” makes wielding a dildo in a public place like the UT campus a class C misdemeanor subject to a $500 fine, but Jin’s logic is that UT police may block one cock, but they can’t block ‘em all.

“Participate at your own risk,” she writes, “But can you imagine the gongshow that would be UTPD/APD trying to chase down thousands of students wielding harmless dildos around campus?”

I can, and it is a delight.

The gongshow begins August 24, according to the Campus (DILDO) Carry Facebook group.





there was a school shooting in texas back in the 60s, yeah, contrary to popular
belief they happened then as well, a gunman in the bell tower at the university
of texas, students ran to their vehicles, grabbed hunting rifles that were
commonly displayed in the rear windows of trucks and returned fire on the gunman,
forcing him to take cover and saving a number of lives, this also allowed the
police to make their way up to the gunman and subdue him


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Get enough like minded people to agree and you can outlaw anything, Weather it makes sense or not.




of course, except that the second amendment is an inalienable right and just so there is no misunderstanding, this is what it means

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adjective: inalienable

    unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor.
    "freedom of religion, the most inalienable of all human rights"
    synonyms: inviolable, absolute, sacrosanct; More




but let's assume for a minute that you did outlaw guns, I remeber a few things
being outlawed as well, did you know that once, someone though it a great idea to
outlaw marijuana? that's right, an outright ban on marijuana, now because it's
illegal we know that there is absolutely no marijuana in this country, thank god
there is no more of that dangerous drug in America. it's good that they did the
same for crystal meth and heroin, can you imagine what could happen if those
drugs ever made it here

ok, so if you banned guns, then what?


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22377558 - 10/14/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Anahata said:
Leave guns alone, Outlaw Bullets, No law against that.





cant outlaw bullets.




Tax the shit out of them then. Perfectly legal





according to nancy pelose it's legal to shoot people with 30 round 'clips'


just saying


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