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/Gun Control Debates.
    #22366748 - 10/12/15 05:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)






































Glad we're all on the same page now.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #22366763 - 10/12/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



p.s. while I agree with whittle's message, I dont care for his greenscreen antics
of pretending to stand in front of congress and have his own fucking TV show

it makes him a liar in my book


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22367187 - 10/12/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The guy makes a point.

Then again less guns = less gun crime. Common sense has to take over at some point...


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22367615 - 10/12/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
The guy makes a point.

Then again less guns = less gun crime. Common sense has to take over at some point...




You know people get robbed at knife-point everyday. Should we legislate knives?


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22367660 - 10/12/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Common sense has to take over at some point...




It already has for many.

Common sense (and statistics) says only a very small percentage of guns/gun owners are involved in any crimes.

Common sense (and the law) says you punish the lawbreaker, not the law abiding.

Common sense (and physics) says guns don't fire themselves.

Common sense (and morals) says you don't screw the few for the acts of many.

Common sense (and the Supreme Court) recognizes a constitutional right.

Common sense (and logic) says modern firearms are constitutionally protected despite not being around when the second amendment was written, just like the first protects TV, radio and internet... despite them not being around when the amendment was written.

Common sense (and dictionaries, plus people with an IQ higher than 5) says that the words "the right of the people" means "the right of the people".

Common sense (and the Militia Act) says that all able bodied males between the ages of 18 - 45 are part of the militia.

Common sense (and statistics again) show that a certain subset of the population commit a disproportionate amount of gun crimes.

Common sense (and common sense) says many opposed to guns... have no common sense.

Too bad so many anti-gunners lack common sense.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22367706 - 10/12/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"No good guy with a gun has ever stopped a bad guy with a gun."

I've heard this again the last few days, every time there's a shooting people start saying that. Usually in response to people reacting to a shooting by wanting to get armed, or have teachers armed, or just do away with gun-free zones.

I always say if that statement is true then why do cops and soldiers have guns?

As long as the president has armed secret service agents protecting him and every member of his family, every single day for the rest of his life, then he should shut the fuck up about self defense.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Supachopped719] * 1
    #22367731 - 10/12/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Supachopped719 said:
"No good guy with a gun has ever stopped a bad guy with a gun."

I've heard this again the last few days, every time there's a shooting people start saying that. Usually in response to people reacting to a shooting by wanting to get armed, or have teachers armed, or just do away with gun-free zones.

I always say if that statement is true then why do cops and soldiers have guns?

As long as the president has armed secret service agents protecting him and every member of his family, every single day for the rest of his life, then he should shut the fuck up about self defense.




QFT


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #22367744 - 10/12/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Patlal said:
Common sense has to take over at some point...





Too bad so many anti-gunners lack common sense.




Too bad pro-gunners lack the intelligence required to look throughout the world to see that gun laws does in fact reduce gun crimes. With one exception of course, Switzerland, which chose to ban ammunition instead of guns achieving the same result.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22367761 - 10/12/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Too bad so many lack the common sense to realize that laws/results in one country don't necessarily translate to laws/results in another.

Too bad common sense doesn't reveal that the other countries don't have a constitution that codifies the right to 'arms'.

Too bad common sense doesn't stop you from making lame comments on guns and the right to bear them.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Patlal]
    #22367894 - 10/12/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Too bad anti-gun enthusiasts don't realize how an individual can create his/her own gun and ammo if one were so inclined....


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22367899 - 10/12/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Gun control is a joke

Watch this and learn the truth



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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368013 - 10/12/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Too bad anti-gun enthusiasts don't realize how an individual can create his/her own gun and ammo if one were so inclined....




One very common home made weapon found around the world is the home-made shotgun. Extremely simple to make the gun and the ammo. Extremely simple to shoot, and causes a ton of damage over a wide area.

Now with 3d printing technology, even in the most gun restricted places in the world, people can print up AK-47s . So if a country were to ban guns outright, stopped all domestic manufacturing of guns, stopped all import of guns, searched every vehicle or boat or person crossing into their borders, and had searches at the entrances of all its cities, someone could still make an entire army's arsenal in their basement.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Supachopped719]
    #22368062 - 10/12/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
Too bad anti-gun enthusiasts don't realize how an individual can create his/her own gun and ammo if one were so inclined....




One very common home made weapon found around the world is the home-made shotgun. Extremely simple to make the gun and the ammo. Extremely simple to shoot, and causes a ton of damage over a wide area.

Now with 3d printing technology, even in the most gun restricted places in the world, people can print up AK-47s . So if a country were to ban guns outright, stopped all domestic manufacturing of guns, stopped all import of guns, searched every vehicle or boat or person crossing into their borders, and had searches at the entrances of all its cities, someone could still make an entire army's arsenal in their basement.




...If one were so inclined. The files for those printers are actually on hold to civilians because of who could potentially get ahold of it. I still don't know about if even they should be regulated cuz like you said, anyone could make a firearm. Even out of polyurethane without the printer.


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368146 - 10/12/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Jared Loughner was a schizo
he was also abused...
but that didn't really come out
the fact that he was schizo and played rune scape was more important

anyway
guns will never shoot down plans
or win fights against people with automatics
so you're better off with a peaceful society that has some not all of it's guns banned
like handguns for example


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368161 - 10/12/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The files for those printers are actually on hold to civilians because of who could potentially get ahold of it.




Can you elaborate? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: psi]
    #22368292 - 10/12/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You can have the printers but you'd have to create the coding for the guns because the atf has them on lock so potential terries can't get a hold of them.


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368321 - 10/12/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There will never be gun control.

Too much black market/underground trading and selling to control gun sales.

And the US is a huge place, lots of places to hide/stash guns without anyone knowing....


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368331 - 10/12/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are you sure that's true? I thought there were some open source gun designs that anyone could print off if they had they equipment. Did you mean for AKs specifically? Very hard for anyone to keep data contained in the Internet age regardless, once it's out it's out.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: psi]
    #22368343 - 10/12/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's true but I'm sure you can get the code off the atf if you request it like you would if you were wanting to own a silencer. But yea, you can get the coding somewhere on the web though if you go looking for it.


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: /Gun Control Debates. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22368430 - 10/12/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think social media and people being aware of there surroundings and standing up to say somthing is the best form of violence control.


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