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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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"Knowledge is always a function of being. What we perceive and understand depends on what we are."
    #22366547 - 10/12/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This Huxley quote, assumed to be true, is my central postulate in this brief few paragraphs in opposition the positions of materialism and positivism:

Not only is experience primary in this universe/circumstance and the aspect of the universe/circumstance from which we should proceed to understand the nature of things (something I'm proposing), instead of secondary to charge, spin and mass, ie. "consciousness is an epiphenomenon," but the evidence of this lies in "what we as moral beings choose to make ourselves," (Huxley, The Perennial Philosophy) and so perceive and understand in the world around us; in order to know such things as "oneself is the universe itself", that subjectivity is legitimate, that events and people synchronize, and so on, it is necessary to have achieved a certain quality of being first. In other words, somehow the nature of the being of the individual and its mind fundamentally causes the formality of existence of this world, and hence prescribes its nature and meaning, and hence prescribes what is deemed to be known about it following investigation (namely, of the senses).

I wager the proponents of materialism and positivism are not particularly lofty beings capable of understanding the nature of things, probably due to a mix of genetically inherited intelligence, environmentally inherited intelligence, life experience, self-chosen determination towards intellectual and spiritual understanding, and whether or not they are keen to conform to the illusions of our age through sheer laziness. Lacking a heightened state of being, they are not qualified to judge whether the world has meaning, whether subjectivity is real, whether there are interconnections between people, places and events, and so on, because: knowledge is a function of being; their being is not capable of that knowledge. They look at the statements of morally enlightened beings who claim to be God, claim spiritual success, claim meaning inherent in the world from their morally unenlightened position, seeing only wild assumptions. However, from the morally enlightened standpoint, the higher quality of mind and being, the wild assumptions are no longer wild but also do no assuming - they are self-evident.

So what we are really looking at here are levels, competing for legitimacy in text, in vain, because it's only in each level's subjective sphere that any of the positions make any sense.

Solution: increase the quality of your being, and judge again.

Thanks for listening.


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Re: "Knowledge is always a function of being. What we perceive and understand depends on what we are." [Re: circastes]
    #22369140 - 10/12/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Omg, you got it..not much more to say..i believe most of what you say..

Though it might be true that eventually this type of information was indeed believed by the materialists..but they cant lose their job or noble position so to speak..so they carry on..as lyers basically.

Honestly thats why i think materialism..isnt necessarily dead..but should be reprogrammed to include material of the mind..and body all at once..

And in that type I am a Materialist..I have mental Material..or Prima Materia.. so to speak..and I have material of my body..and senses ..

So i think its odd that Perception isnt a type of material at all..


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