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OfflineImloonsformyshroom
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I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? * 1
    #22365607 - 10/11/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

***MUSHROOM NUMBER 1***



Habitat:
Where does it grow? woods, in the state of illinois growing on a large rotting section of tree (a big rotting log)

gills:
yellow to yellow orange, adnate gills breaking away easily from stem with age

Stem:
Length 50 mm, diameter 4-6 mm, ochreous ornage with red fibrils that seem to turn purple when the stem is damaged, fibrous smooth besides fibrils, hollow, relatively thick considering size of mushroom, cylindrical to oval in cross-section,  somewhat clavate to even etc. no annulus

Cap:
20-40mm, red caps on pins and young specimens to orange and darker in the center on larger ones, texture not smooth crackly (?) scurfy maybe, half spherical with wavy edges in maturity

Spore print color:
still waiting... so far appears a pale yellow orange

Bruising:
reddish to purplish

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom: indistinct, tasting a bit it is NOT bitter.  Sort of delicate flavor, slightly sweet, very mealy


***MUSHROOM NUMBER 2***

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Habitat:
Where does it grow? In the woods, growing on a moist rotting bit of fallen tree

Gills:
Color rusty brown, attached adnate gills

Stem:
Length 50-70mm, diameter 6-10mm, color orange with red fibrils, very fibrous and extremely tough at the base, hollow, pretty thick, no annulus on any samples, etc.

Cap:
20-60mm, pumpkin orange, with a thin skin over entire pileus that can be peeled away and appears to break away into scattered scales across cap portion, half sphere to plane in the large samples, edges of cap turning purplish

Spore print color:
really dark rusty color

Bruising:
red and purple (I swear the stem was bright indigo/violet, but it didn't come out quite the same in the photo)

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom is really mild like an oyster (mushroom) sort of, taste a bit of gills and spit it out... like always... tasted pretty mild but bitter is the only flavor I can think to describe it


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Re: I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? [Re: Imloonsformyshroom]
    #22365637 - 10/11/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



#2 is a Pholiota sp.


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Re: I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? [Re: Lucis]
    #22365785 - 10/11/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, I thought it looked like a gymnopilus penetrans, so I thought I'd check.  I haven't done a thorough microscopy yet.  I'll check that out.  :-)


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Re: I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? [Re: Imloonsformyshroom]
    #22366487 - 10/12/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Number #1 is a Toxic ps cyans lookalike. Do Not Eat!!!


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Re: I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22366826 - 10/12/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't understand how #1 would look like Ps. cyan, can you please explain your thinking on this.  Not trying to be rude, just curious.

I think #1 looks more like Tricholomopsis rutilans, but the spore color does not add up, wish I could see a nice thick print.  I am not up to date on Gymnopilus taxonomy, but something just doesn't seem right about this one for Gymnopilus, something about how the fibrils on the cap look.  I am far from an expert though.


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Re: I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? [Re: Lucis]
    #22367307 - 10/12/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)




^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This is mushroom # 1's spore print after sitting all night and in day light versus camera flash.  I think the color is more clear here


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Re: I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? [Re: Imloonsformyshroom]
    #22368423 - 10/12/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just my personal thought on number 1... It kind of looks like pholiota granulosa...but I see no clear germ pores on thorough inspection.  The spores are also decidedly bumpy with large warts, definitely not smooth. They were in perfect condition so I don't think the spores were altered in appearance or anything.  Does anyone else have any ideas for these little guys?


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Re: I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? [Re: Lucis]
    #22368441 - 10/12/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, the second photo had some gill shots that looked similar to cyan gills.

But now that i see the cap, its nothing like a cyan.


Only the gills look similar to a flat-capped cyan gills :shrug:


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Re: I think I found some gyms, but are they really... and if so are they the good kind? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22410369 - 10/20/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So I'm still undecided as to these guys.  They look so much like other gyms I've seen posted, but unfortunately my microscope ran out of batteries and I just haven't gotten around to picking up more, but I did find some more pics off number 1 just in case seeing more of them might create a clearer picture of what they look like. So with no further adieu I give you Muhrooms number 1... again.



  Let me know if you guys have any further insights or directions to look.  Thanks so much!


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