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    #22365416 - 10/11/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Long time lurker - just never had needed to post.

Not sure if anyone will be able to help me. But I've been working with LSA extractions for a few years now. I'm a Biochem student right now and am pretty confident in my techniques however I'm not sure what I have here.

I extracted and filtered 200 HBWR seeds with anhydrous IPA (99%). This liquid was filtered and contained absolutely zero solids and was amber/yellow in color.

I'm waiting on more litmus paper (pH paper) in the mail to do my Acid/Base work and decided to do a freeze precipitate of some fats instead of doing the usual non-polar washes. So I put the solution into the freezer for a few days.

3 days later white/grey crystals begin to precipitate and fall out of solution. Theoretically, I'm assuming these are fats precipitating out of solution; however, under UV light the crystals in solution seem to glow light blue.


What do you guys think? Are my alkaloids precipitating out of solution at this temperature (like with DMT) or are these simply fats that I can discard??

Pics were tough to take with the frosted up glass - but if I waited until the glass unfrosts the precipitate dissolves back into solution. Please help anyone with a better background in chemistry.



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Re: Advanced LSA extraction [Re: PandyMix]
    #22365767 - 10/11/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You should dry them out on a glass pan.

Ive gotten yellow-ish DMT-looking needle crystals from a methanol extraction. Sounds like you have a pure version maybe.

Again, dry them out so you know what u have.


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Re: Advanced LSA extraction [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22368017 - 10/12/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the response.

But how will this prove what I have? By then testing it on my cat? lol. That's usually what I do.

I have evaporated the alcohol before and just scraped the brownish fluff (lazy mans tek) and its highly active. So I know at room temperature the alkaloids are in solution. How can I definitively say that these crystals are LSA-alkaloids vs Fats-lipids.


does solid lsa glow under UV light aswell??


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Re: Advanced LSA extraction [Re: PandyMix]
    #22368029 - 10/12/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

First off, dont give them to cats. Thats cruel.

One way to tell is if it glows under UV light.

The other way is subjectively: Take a known amount of seeds (a dosage you know beforehand) then extract, then eat. Compared to the experience of eating seeds.

From experience, the LSA crystals I have gotten from methanol extractions look very similar to fine LSD crystals (white fluff), except mine are yellow from impurities.

So, if it has a fine needle-like appearance, its likes pure LSA I believe.


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Re: Advanced LSA extraction [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22368130 - 10/12/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hahaha I would never do that to my cats lol.

I already threw out the precipitate after the first 3-5 days in the freezer and now I'm going to filter this precipitate out (ill save it). I'm going to go ahead and do the A/B work in the next few days, when I have time (lye, sodium carbonate, and citric acid) . and then extract back into ethanol. and vial

Simultaneously I'm going to run the same extraction on another 200 seeds and save the freeze - precipitates. I'll then dissolve this back into some ethanol and vial.

We'll see which glows more blue under UV. and :eek:


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