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what kind of religion is Christianity anyway?
    #22365338 - 10/11/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Id be surprised if this idea hasnt been presented before cuz im sure if I noticed this then someone else has.

Ok so has anyone ever noticed that Christianity is always pegged as a monotheistic religion, yet it has aspects of almost every other category of religion out there?

Like how yes it could be seen as monotheistic due to there being, at its core, one almighty God.

Theres also the Holy trinity. You know, the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Isnt that kinda polytheistic. People generally refer to Jesus as aa separate entity than God, due to him being the "Son of the Father" but at the same time being on the same level as God. Same thing with all the Saints it has. Tho these, IMO, are just representative of all the different aspects of God, just in little easy to manage packages.

Some of the characteristics of God is that hes all powerful and IN EVERYONE AND IS EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING. This strikes me as very Pantheistic.

What are your thoughts on this? Is this just Christianity's way of covering all the bases or is it an accident because they borrowed so many things from older religions that sounded good?


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Mind-Rip]
    #22365442 - 10/11/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The trinity is, as most christians would agree, the most difficult concept to understand.

Nevertheless, traditional christianity does not refer to Jesus as a separate entity. That would be Jehovah's witnesses and Mormons.

And the saints and Jesus are not on comparable levels(not sure if that's what you were saying).

Additionally, there will be a huge diversity in who acknowledges what people as Saints.

Your interpretation of God being in everyone is not a traditional christian doctrine. In fact, it may very well be the complete opposite of christian doctrine; see: Total Depravity.

You say 'pegged', like the religion is lying about it's true doctrine.

Most every religion will have aspects of all religions because they seek to answer some of the same basic questions.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: metalfaith]
    #22365748 - 10/11/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Your interpretation of God being in everyone is not a traditional Christian doctrine. In fact, it may very well be the complete opposite of christian doctrine; see: Total Depravity.




I have to disagree with you here. First of all, total depravity is a protestant doctrine and as such it is not a traditional christian doctrine. The reformation didn't occur until 1500+ years of Christianity.

Secondly, Total Depravity is a doctrine which refers to the human ego self, the false or fragmented self, which is indeed wholly corrupt or "totally depraved" as the protestants say. But this is not the whole of man. If you look at the whole of man's being, you must also include his higher self, which is why the Catholic Church does not teach total depravity.

The traditional Christian view sees God as The Creator, wholly separate from his creation and yet also wholly permeating it. This is not pantheistic, which simply views God and creation as being the same.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: metalfaith]
    #22365861 - 10/11/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I suppose pegged wasnt the right word, nevertheless, theres so much focus on there being only one God when the definition makes it seem to the contrary.
With the "being in everyone and everything and everywhere" statement, isnt that what omnipresence is?

To be clear I was raised Catholic, presumably roman catholic, so im just speaking from what ive been taught through that part of Christianity, which I know is crazy diverse in its teachings.

Im also not really saying the saints are on the same level as Jesus. Sorry I wasnt very clear with my wording.
Jesus is considered God but then theres also God the Father. So thats 2 separate beings that are considered to be God.

I supposed the trinity represents divinity like this:
The Father is the ulitmate king in heaven, the chief who made the world and the rules.
The Son is the Physical manifestation of God in the form of man. Sort of as a bridge to man whereby he had once been able to directly spread the word of God and as a more tangible figure for man to look to as the face of god. And also to, you know, die for our sins.

The Holy Ghost/Spirit might be the omnipresence of God where he can be everywhere, even in you, "being filled with the spirit of the lord" as it were. This may be a way for the common man to be in touch with God and "feel his presence" which would account for the feelings one has when having a significantly spiritual experience.

Saints and I mean the traditional saints (if there is such a thing) like saint joseph and saint anthony. The ones that is you pray to them, something special happens, like you find your car keys.

But this is all up for debate. What do you think?


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22366511 - 10/12/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Peyote Road said:

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The traditional Christian view sees God as The Creator, wholly separate from his creation and yet also wholly permeating it. This is not pantheistic, which simply views God and creation as being the same.




But I feel like if something contains God within it then theyre basically the same. Sorta like the meaning of namaste. "I bow to and recognize the light within you as it is within me" it's a sign of respect and peace because theyre both the same essential thing on the inside. Just replace light with god.

How can one be everywhere yet not a part of everything.

Im just curious, this makes me wonder, does the bible ever actually state that God is omnipresent, omnipotent, and all knowing? Or is this a scholar based list of criteria for a god.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Mind-Rip]
    #22367216 - 10/12/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Mind-Rip said:
Id be surprised if this idea hasnt been presented before cuz im sure if I noticed this then someone else has.

Ok so has anyone ever noticed that Christianity is always pegged as a monotheistic religion, yet it has aspects of almost every other category of religion out there?

Like how yes it could be seen as monotheistic due to there being, at its core, one almighty God.

Theres also the Holy trinity. You know, the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Isnt that kinda polytheistic. People generally refer to Jesus as aa separate entity than God, due to him being the "Son of the Father" but at the same time being on the same level as God. Same thing with all the Saints it has. Tho these, IMO, are just representative of all the different aspects of God, just in little easy to manage packages.

Some of the characteristics of God is that hes all powerful and IN EVERYONE AND IS EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING. This strikes me as very Pantheistic.

What are your thoughts on this? Is this just Christianity's way of covering all the bases or is it an accident because they borrowed so many things from older religions that sounded good?




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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Mind-Rip]
    #22367275 - 10/12/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you know, i've been reading through the old testament recently, and i'm on numbers(so tedious) right now. So far, despite several examples of God saying not to worship any other gods, i haven't found one yet of god saying that there ARE no other gods.  I thought it was interesting.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22367310 - 10/12/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Isn't it mostly about not following false prophets?


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Mind-Rip]
    #22367330 - 10/12/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Chatting with MarkosTheGnostic who is very well educated on the subject - Christianity, IMO, seems to have become an amalgamated religion.  You have parts that are Judaistic, Gnostic, and Christian.  The problem comes in where people aren't able to differentiate what is what and thus you have a cluster of misplaced/unclear beliefs.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Mind-Rip]
    #22368972 - 10/12/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

All good questions, but if you are really stoked on getting a fairly modern elucidation of Christian theology, I'd recommend John MacQuarrie's Principles of Christian Theology http://www.amazon.com/Principles-Christian-Theology-John-Macquarrie/dp/002374510X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444685629&sr=8-1&keywords=principles+of+christian+theology%2C+macquarrie ; This book cleared up certain questions for my late father-in-law, who was an educated Nigerian Muslim, yet he always understood trinitarian theology to be pure polytheism until I sent him MacQuarrie's material from this book.

The subject of Christology, within theology is a category of itself. There have been various intellectual movements throughout history which sought to elucidate the way in which the human and divine natures are joined in the person of Jesus. Of course these tedious endeavors (most of which are listed as heresies) assume that (1) Jesus was historical, and (2) that he was a unique specie of being (versus my preferred theology that he was the archetype of ALL human beings, and ALL of us are a unity of human and divinity - the divine "I AM" at bottom). The usual expression is that God was in Christ, which is the title of a classic theology book by D.M. Baillie. Jesus the Christ is more descriptive than Jesus Christ, but Jesus ≠ God. Christ refers to the Logos, which is eternal. Mythically, the New Testament has Jesus transform by 'rising' both in the movement called Resurrection, and then the movement called 'Ascension.' The English translates Jesus as rising in the air, but in Greek, the word pneuma means both air and spirit and so air is a poor translation IMO. It suggests a Heaven that is a location above the dome of the stars. This is mythic language that incorporates a 1st century cosmology that conflates 'the heavens' with Heaven.

The Pagan elements is a different discussion but I'm about to board a plane in the airport and have to go.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22369331 - 10/12/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sometimes I think im jesus..but then i realize that a Jesus outside of myself who died for me..is better suited..more of a place that makes sense for me..

People keep harping on me to be more like Jesus..but if Jesus already exists..then i dont really see the reason..Adam is probably a character more suited for me..not like it makes a difference..because I am Adam anyways..

Not to lie but i HAVE been Jesus at least once..but the way things are now..after many reincarnations..i prefer to be with Eve, and talk about the fall..and remain as Gods number one man..I naturally rule all the races and elements of nature..just like it says in the bible..

I am really interested in general to meet EVE..and by this do i mean to not shit you at all..but only THE REAL LIVING EVE..and then we can rule with compassion..otherwise im kind of a psychopath just existing alone..and reading about Eastern Religions..


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #22370123 - 10/12/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The Presby-lovies have a nice hymn they sing, ' No East or West; '


When I was 3 I wondered why the lovelies didn't follow Christ. . he gave such simple instructions: give away everything, don't even wait to bury your father,


leave all materalism behind,


etc. . . not, living in mansions built on the backs of. . . so many thousands of beings.  So unnecessary.


It's eternal though, rise and fall, growth and decay -- and there is so much new life, vast. . . in the world -- death and life are one, in truth. ..


the ancients knew this, and many today know. . . all is infinite light, and there is no cause to worry, fear, or doubt.


I was baptized in he First Presbyterian Church in Stillwater as a little babe. . .


recently i came back there and


shared some love. . .


i said,


' do not buy anything material - only a few pure foods, '


etc.


they heard me. . . i was gladdened to share goodness with them.



they love me but it's funny, i have to keep reminding them of who i am every time i come. . . i shared a lovely question,



with one person - i asked, ' well, is it better to be known or unknown? ' immediate reply was, ' known. '


this is an interesing thing. . . i shared a bit and departed. . . one thing for sure --


the path to peace is always the same - nature path, forest path --


the further separated from earth mother we are,


well, the further separated then.


what is of benefit to her --


that's primary benefit to ourselves, as well. . . this profound truth does a lot of good.


sometimes i wonder if christ presaged the current crisis.... when people follow his simple advice --


the forest path - same as shared by every wise person from history, ever -


then earth mother recovers, recuperates, very quickly;


ineed one beautiful fact of life is that every day -


each day there is so very, very much new life.



peace. :peace:  love.


ah, glancing at my post before posting i remembered:  (Whitman)


'It is a beautiful truth that all men contain something of the artist in them. And perhaps it is the case that the greatest artists live and die, the world and themselves alike ignorant what they possess. Who would not mourn that an ample palace, of surpassingly graceful architecture, fill’d with luxuries, and embellish’d with fine pictures and sculpture, should stand cold and still and vacant, and never be known or enjoy’d by its owner? Would such a fact as this cause your sadness? Then be sad. For there is a palace, to which the courts of the most sumptuous kings are but a frivolous patch, and, though it is always waiting for them, not one of its owners ever enters there with any genuine sense of its grandeur and glory.

'I think of few heroic actions, which cannot be traced to the artistical impulse. He who does great deeds, does them from his innate sensitiveness to moral beauty.'

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Walt_Whitman


beauty & love.



Whitman's quote is very nice -- in essence, there is space within the heart. . .



then we can leave the factories and fields. .. like McKenna saw. . .


'Divine Parousia was entering the world, and the just, the meek and the humble were leaving their fields and factories, pushing back their chairs from their office desks and workbenches and walking out into the light of a living sun that would never set for there could be no setting for the eternal radiance of the Logos. Tears of joy streaming down their cheeks, the illumined billions were turning their eyes at last to the sky and finding there a consolation that they had never dared hope for.'



When people know that infinite space within - the source, infinite love - and they follow the nature path, forest path - taught not just by Christ but by every sage. . . there are many.  Shantideva, Bhartrihari, Milarepa, Black Elk, many others --


then earth can breathe.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22370209 - 10/12/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I even wrote a little song about it.


God said, sleep in the forest,
you will find, blessed rest -

God said, sleep in the forest,
you will find, blessed rest -

Mama said, my mama said,
Sleep in the forest, you'll find rest

Mama said, sleep in the forest,
you will find blessed rest.

Papa said, my papa said,
Sleep in the forest, you'll find rest

Papa said, sleep in the forest,
you will find blessed rest.

Sister said, my sister said,
Make a pillow right for your head

Sister said, my sister said,
Make a pillow right for your head

Brother said, my brother said,
Sleep in the forest -- for your best,

Brother said, sleep in the forest,
you will find such blessed rest.

Brother said - ain't no test!
You will find blessed rest.

Children say, children say,
you have found - blessed rest,

Children say, children say,
you have found - blessed rest,

My Lord Christ - it's so nice
Sleep in the forest - don't think twice.

My Lord Christ - it's so nice
Sleep in the forest - don't think twice.



The last part slows down and sings it slowly, then goes back to the start of it.  The tune or melody. .  I'd write it out someday. . but to explain it, it's sort of --


hmm. hm... ( a little higher ) then down to the root, when it goes ' blessed rest ' . . . well. . . I'll just write it out sometime!!! hehe.


so - all of this is basically from matthew.  Give away all possessions -- do not even care about shoes or having a shirt --


Leave home, do not even wait to bury a loved one - and one important part - he said,


' Those who didn't do what I said, I will turn away from them, '  and what did he say?


hehe. . . quite simple and so clear!!! Don't look to doom & gloomers, etc. . .


Well he said give away possessions and Etc.  When people do this, as I wrote - then earth can breathe.



Otherwise - materialists in sheep's clothing.  And - yes, well I know there's a vast universe -- how does this practice work?  Sharing love and light.



Most importantly is have no fear. . . All wrong-doing in the world comes from that one thing. . .



And - love and life, happiness and peace and light -- these are necessary, for life.  Life depends on love.  Love is the source.



As I share with people - your heart is gold.  People deserve happiness - and. . . conjoined with the Zen thing - being at peace while sharing peace --



that is the main thing.  But again - not a peace out of falseness. . . living in a mansion - etc.  That is quite the opposite. 



So be happy - that's first -- then get strength for improving our connection with earth, step by step . . . each day help.



Reduce consumption by 50% a day or a week or so. . . or month - do what you wish --- you are infinitely free, it


makes no difference to me. 



Yet am saying - earth needs and deserves our love, care and respect.  Happiness does not come from material.


peace, & light.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22370263 - 10/12/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My idea behind the trinity is you have God/Life, Jesus/Man, and the Holy Spirit/Empty void dark matter or soul


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22370384 - 10/12/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
All good questions, but if you are really stoked on getting a fairly modern elucidation of Christian theology, I'd recommend John MacQuarrie's Principles of Christian Theology http://www.amazon.com/Principles-Christian-Theology-John-Macquarrie/dp/002374510X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444685629&sr=8-1&keywords=principles+of+christian+theology%2C+macquarrie ; This book cleared up certain questions for my late father-in-law, who was an educated Nigerian Muslim, yet he always understood trinitarian theology to be pure polytheism until I sent him MacQuarrie's material from this book.

The subject of Christology, within theology is a category of itself. There have been various intellectual movements throughout history which sought to elucidate the way in which the human and divine natures are joined in the person of Jesus. Of course these tedious endeavors (most of which are listed as heresies) assume that (1) Jesus was historical, and (2) that he was a unique specie of being (versus my preferred theology that he was the archetype of ALL human beings, and ALL of us are a unity of human and divinity - the divine "I AM" at bottom). The usual expression is that God was in Christ, which is the title of a classic theology book by D.M. Baillie. Jesus the Christ is more descriptive than Jesus Christ, but Jesus ≠ God. Christ refers to the Logos, which is eternal. Mythically, the New Testament has Jesus transform by 'rising' both in the movement called Resurrection, and then the movement called 'Ascension.' The English translates Jesus as rising in the air, but in Greek, the word pneuma means both air and spirit and so air is a poor translation IMO. It suggests a Heaven that is a location above the dome of the stars. This is mythic language that incorporates a 1st century cosmology that conflates 'the heavens' with Heaven.

The Pagan elements is a different discussion but I'm about to board a plane in the airport and have to go.




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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Skribe]
    #22370434 - 10/12/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This is quite interesting, more than a bit :sun:

more feminine for me would be desirable, as the divine has equally. . . divine mother, etc. just me personally. 

very interested to find out what we may find out about dark energy, for sure.

nice. :smile:

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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22374309 - 10/13/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Peyote Road. Some turbulance and an off-balance landing, but I'm in Dallas until Sunday.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22377215 - 10/14/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Christianity is a Judaic religion but I agree it is amalgamated, that was Paul's intent

Jesus is the cornerstone the builders rejected, and the root of Jesse who is father to King David.

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The English translates Jesus as rising in the air, but in Greek, the word pneuma means both air and spirit and so air is a poor translation IMO."



I believe this describes morning mist.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Mind-Rip]
    #22380094 - 10/14/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it is a myth (as is everything else...) enjoy it, don't try to reason it out o.O ...


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: gnrm23]
    #22380702 - 10/14/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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gnrm23 said:
it is a myth (as is everything else...) enjoy it, don't try to reason it out o.O ...




This.

Ah, I adore you uncle gnrm23.....  will try my damnedest to make it home for summer festivities.... Yanno my first lover took me to Wisteria for PSG, twas a long time ago.  Haven't been to Starwood since Brushwood o.O  I still vividly remember my first Winterstar and being star struck by Robert Anton Wilson :lol:  I wish it was still at Brushwood, I'd feel way less guilty about going and not visiting my mum, oy.  Athens, OH/Wisteria is like an hour away from my hometown, Marietta, and I just don't have the time for an extended vacation to do both being some 2500 miles away out here in Portland, OR.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Buckthorn]
    #22381436 - 10/14/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Christianity is a Judaic religion but I agree it is amalgamated, that was Paul's intent

Jesus is the cornerstone the builders rejected, and the root of Jesse who is father to King David.

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The English translates Jesus as rising in the air, but in Greek, the word pneuma means both air and spirit and so air is a poor translation IMO."



I believe this describes morning mist.




Christianity may have begun as an outcropping of Judaism but Hellenism completely overwhelmed primitive Jewish Christianity with its myth of a demigod - a being born of Deity and a mortal woman, like Heracles, Dionysus, or even Pan (which means 'All' and refers to nature as whole). If you read J.S. Spong's book Liberating the Gospels, one sees how, why, and for whom the NT was constructed, politically and culturally, and if one reads Christ in Egypt by D.M. Murdock, she documents where the ancient Egyptian Coffin and Pyramid texts form the basis of vitually every story in the New Testament. Both books are highly illuminating.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: Mind-Rip]
    #22381764 - 10/15/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Id be surprised if this idea hasnt been presented before cuz im sure if I noticed this then someone else has.

Ok so has anyone ever noticed that Christianity is always pegged as a monotheistic religion, yet it has aspects of almost every other category of religion out there?

Like how yes it could be seen as monotheistic due to there being, at its core, one almighty God.

Theres also the Holy trinity. You know, the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Isnt that kinda polytheistic. People generally refer to Jesus as aa separate entity than God, due to him being the "Son of the Father" but at the same time being on the same level as God. Same thing with all the Saints it has. Tho these, IMO, are just representative of all the different aspects of God, just in little easy to manage packages.

Some of the characteristics of God is that hes all powerful and IN EVERYONE AND IS EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING. This strikes me as very Pantheistic.

What are your thoughts on this? Is this just Christianity's way of covering all the bases or is it an accident because they borrowed so many things from older religions that sounded good?




The religion that I wish I could have ditched, but that does not seem to be an option at all. I agree though, its completely open, where I disagree with pagans who don't get that I have Christian experiences, even though I wished that they would stop. I embrace the pantheistic, pagan and racist aspects, these make it work out ok I hope. That damned personal Jesus won't leave me alone. I'd rather be pure Odinist. Nevermind, it is what it is. Culture is part of the problem, movies keep bringing me back to Christ. I successfully have lost any belief in eternal heaven or hell for the most part at least.


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Re: what kind of religion is Christianity anyway? [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #22382214 - 10/15/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you Markos.

I heard the spirit of Jesus tell me I AM freed.


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