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Peyote Road
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Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria?
#22365100 - 10/11/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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One thing I don't understand about this website, is its obsession with psilocybin mushrooms.
I have just learned that it is possible to grow amanita muscaria mycellium on barley and then trip off the mycellium and its a much faster process than growing psilos too.
I want to know if anyone has actually tried this and why aren't there a million posts about this? I mean being able to grow a virtually umlimited supply of a very magical mushroom should be a topic the shroomery is all over, should it not? And yet all I find on here is the same old stupid threads about growing psilos, which quite frankly has been done to death.
Anyway here is the proposed method: http://ambrosiasociety.org/download.html
I plan to get crackin' on this as soon as I can get the supplies together and have a spare afternoon. I will post an update with my results.
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ThatShroomer7
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#22365208 - 10/11/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because some beleive that there potentially dangerous ?
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: ThatShroomer7]
#22365228 - 10/11/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LoL
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Peyote Road
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: ThatShroomer7]
#22365258 - 10/11/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ThatShroomer7 said: Because some beleive that there potentially dangerous ?
Dangerous? They are to be respected, yes, but I find that as long as you don't increase the dose too quickly before you're ready, they are actually no more dangerous than psilocybin.
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Achillita
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: Peyote Road]
#22365462 - 10/11/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amanitas are something more commonly hunted for than grown. Mainly because they are legal, cheap(if you buy), and grow freaking everywhere.
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blindingleaf
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: Achillita]
#22365692 - 10/11/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the link you provided with the "proposed method" to grow this species has no directions.
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I mean being able to grow a virtually umlimited supply of a very magical mushroom should be a topic the shroomery is all over, should it not?
…it should. and…it is
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And yet all I find on here is the same old stupid threads about growing psilos, which quite frankly has been done to death.
there is no changing that.
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I plan to get crackin' on this as soon as I can get the supplies together and have a spare afternoon. I will post an update with my results.
do you have a spare tree whose roots it can grow with?? that might be better than a spare afternoon.
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Achillita
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: blindingleaf]
#22365705 - 10/11/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, Don't amanitas require pine trees or something like that?
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LocN9ne
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: Achillita]
#22365744 - 10/11/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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deciduous and coniferous
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Mdahmer
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22365790 - 10/11/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol leaf, it should and it is. f-in a.
but on a serious tip you seem like you've done amnitas and enjoyed them. i did not. and most people i know didn't either which also has something to do with it im sure.
and plus who wants to just grow the mycelium mats? i do love to trip sometimes but i can never eat all i grow, a lot gets composted but i do it cause i love seeing the fruits especially when you get an extremely dense cluster, you just can't beat it
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: Mdahmer]
#22366541 - 10/12/15 02:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Who here has tripped off of amanita muscaria? I have no desire to. If I did, I would pick trash bags full of 8"+ tall mushrooms over the next 3 months.
I can deal with the side effects of ps species, no desire to deal with the side effects of the other
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Shroomspective
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: tahoe]
#22366758 - 10/12/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tried it once a while back and wasn't really that great IMO, just ended up being hard to move or see and kept getting stuck in a not very interesting mind loop; simply fell asleep in the end, woke up feeling pretty worn out. Interesting experiment but once was enough to satisfy curiosity
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DaveyJones6911
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: Shroomspective]
#22366836 - 10/12/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tried it once a while back and wasn't really that great IMO, just ended up being hard to move or see and kept getting stuck in a not very interesting mind loop; simply fell asleep in the end, woke up feeling pretty worn out. Interesting experiment but once was enough to satisfy curiosity
were they properly dried?
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: DaveyJones6911]
#22366851 - 10/12/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes crispy dry, finished off in the oven at 160f for 30 mins
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Grey
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: Shroomspective]
#22367251 - 10/12/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you could cultivate potent mycelial mats of Subaeruginosa or Azures, then you're on to something.
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: Grey]
#22367633 - 10/12/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought they where actually poisonous. I've also heard of people getting sick from them. Maybe that's why there isn't much interest?...
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#22367643 - 10/12/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or that the OPs website is complete bullshit there's that too
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DaveyJones6911
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22367808 - 10/12/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amanita muscaria has ibotenic acid which is toxic to the liver. in drying them the ibotenic acid converts to muscimol which is hallucinogenic.
also amanita grows symbiotically on the roots of trees and apparently requires this to produce fruits. afaik nobody has been able to cultivate amanita fruits because of this.
as for that link, i haven't read the whole pdf, but the only fact that really matters is the claim that is made that amanita mycelium contains ibotenic acid.
does it?
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: DaveyJones6911]
#22367987 - 10/12/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Likely in very small quantities. And if you grow the myc without its symbiotic partner it may not make it at all. Vegetative growth may happen on the without the symbiotic partnership but its probably not expressing the genes required to make certain products until fruiting occurs.
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22368252 - 10/12/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that website is BS...lol.
None of the links even work...
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DaveyJones6911
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Re: Where are all the threads on Aminita Muscaria? [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#22368426 - 10/12/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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that makes sense.
still it might be a fun project to determine for sure. could one extract the chemicals with alcohol and get an idea of whether or not it might be active, or are there to many other chemicals that get extracted along to tell the difference?
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