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rickpsfuckyou
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Moonshoe]
#22372912 - 10/13/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Guns aren't the problem.
But Gun Owners who don't store their guns safely ARE part of the problem.
So are people who steal guns. But the person who doesn't safely lock up their gun is certainly also partly to blame.
If I leave my gun in a carboard box outside my front door with a sign saying "please don't take my gun"
and someone takes it...
Yeah I am kind of responsible for what they do with it.
If I have my gun locked up in a case in a locked room in a locked house and someone breaks in and steals it, yeah thats on them not on me.
last time i checked having the gun safely stored in your vehicle on your own property, which no one else has a legal right to enter, is storing a gun responsibly, and very different from leaving it in your front yard in a cardboard box with a sign
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: rickpsfuckyou] 1
#22373639 - 10/13/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right? lol these people love to turn the table around just because it was a gun? It's absolutely illogical to blame someone for someone else breaking into your property then your vehicles and stealing a fucking item. Your backward ass logic and examples aren't making your case any more believable.
I can't believe some of you are that fucking stupid. You really think that this person is going to bring this gun to Mexico. GTFO. You live in a fantasy world where you think everyone is a gun runner. People who do that live on the border and do it an organized way. They don't break into fucking cars and randomly come up on a gun in a crime of opportunity. There's much more efficient ways to obtain guns besides hoping someone left a gun in their car overnight on their own property.
Then to allude about placing an item in a cardboard box outside? wtf? You are thinking as if this gun was purposely placed outside like bulk trash items that said please take?!...
It's funny how someones political views on gun ownership can spew over to simple logic.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Gorlax]
#22373648 - 10/13/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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We have a lot of anti-gun nuts here apparently. It's about on par with the amount of cop haters yet none of them have a solution to the gun problem or the problem of crime....
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Gorlax



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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Uzziel]
#22373656 - 10/13/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The solution always stems back to the gun owners for some stupid fucking reason. Not the criminals that perpetrate crime. It's sad. We live in a society where no one is accountable for their actions anymore it seems.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Uzziel]
#22373658 - 10/13/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure they do. Ban the guns. That will definitely make sure no criminal ever has a gun again.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shroomslip]
#22373664 - 10/13/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Sure they do. Ban the guns. That will definitely make sure no criminal ever has a gun again.
Yep... that won't just guarantee the only people with guns are the police, military and criminals...
nope...
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Gorlax]
#22373968 - 10/13/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You are misunderstanding. I am not saying I think it should be that way, its not MY logic. I am talking about what I understand to be the law in Canada, which is that if you don't lock up your gun safely (meaning in a locked case) and it is stolen (like if you left it in your glove compartment or something) then you would be legally liable for crimes commited with it, to some degree.
I may be wrong, but that was my understanding.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Moonshoe]
#22373982 - 10/13/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: You are misunderstanding. I am not saying I think it should be that way, its not MY logic. I am talking about what I understand to be the law in Canada, which is that if you don't lock up your gun safely (meaning in a locked case) and it is stolen (like if you left it in your glove compartment or something) then you would be legally liable for crimes commited with it, to some degree.
I may be wrong, but that was my understanding.
If you could be liable for what someone does with your stolen property, why are we even allowed to own anything??
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luvdemboomers
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Moonshoe]
#22374448 - 10/13/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: You are misunderstanding. I am not saying I think it should be that way, its not MY logic. I am talking about what I understand to be the law in Canada, which is that if you don't lock up your gun safely (meaning in a locked case) and it is stolen (like if you left it in your glove compartment or something) then you would be legally liable for crimes commited with it, to some degree.
I may be wrong, but that was my understanding.
If that's true it's a ridiculous law. Now sure, if you have children or mentally unstable people in your house I could see how you could hold some liability if something happened.g. That would be negligence. Leaving any item locked and out of sight in your vehicle is not, logically speaking. Would you also liable if you leave a prescription drug in your glove box in a locked car and someone breaks in, eats it all, and dies?
Not directed at you but it's fucking ridiculous how liberals take two completely opposite groups: legal gun owners and criminals/gang bangers, and lump together and give legal gun owners all the blowback from thugs being thugs. It's essentially the same logic of saying "heroin is a drug and bad, marijuana is a drug so it must also be bad"
Edited by luvdemboomers (10/13/15 05:11 PM)
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