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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: shadyy]
#22365310 - 10/11/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Too hard to prove it was self defense. I'd at least get a weed eater or something.
I just got a great idea for a self defense, non lethal weapon. A small portable weed eater.. I'll call it "string mace". Basically it works the same as mace, it blinds you and puts you in a lot of pain. Only the blindness is permanent.
No body steal my idea, I'm going to start drawing up the blue prints right now and get this shit patented.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shroomslip]
#22365314 - 10/11/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I also like to dress up as a ghost to scare criminals away. Gets them every time.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Gorlax]
#22365320 - 10/11/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Your assumptions make it sound like he was complicit in stealing his own property. If you left a window open and someone cut the screen and came in it would be the exact same scenario. Blaming someone for someone else comitting a crime against them is exactly what you are saying. It doesn't work like that but you are too blinded the second you saw gun you threw on your bernie sanders pants. You wouldnt have this stance if they took his kitchen chec knives which couls easily be used in a crime as well.m
No. I'm not blinded. I'm pissed off that so called responsible gun often owners don't think about anyone but themselves when they decide to buy a gun. It's just so easy to blame a criminal for whatever happens to their gun if it is stolen, but that gun may not have been stolen if they were more conscientious about where they leave it or if they never bough it in the first place.
The excuse "he was super tired" sounds exactly like the excuse that someone makes when they leave their gun on the dresser and their kid comes in and accidentially shoots himself. It's a deadly weapon. If you can't be trusted to make sure it is as secure as possible at all times, then you shouldn't own it. Leaving it a car is not the same as bringing it in the hues and putting it in a safe or under your pillow.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: shadyy]
#22365322 - 10/11/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you scream as loud as you can and blow your whistle it will scare them away.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: koods]
#22365329 - 10/11/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. I'm not blinded. I'm pissed off that so called responsible gun often owners don't think about anyone but themselves when they decide to buy a gun. It's just so easy to blame a criminal for whatever happens to their gun if it is stolen, but that gun may not have been stolen if they were more conscientious about where they leave it or if they never bough it in the first place.
By that logic, I guess we should blame heroin for making addicts steal from their family or let alone OP's brother's firearm. Its a drug problem really...
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Gorlax]
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: koods]
#22365342 - 10/11/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You just want to blame gun owners, you do it constantly, you generalize the shit out of them. Say we're the problem.
You know to many people out there, you're a pedo, right? Yes. There is no shortage of people who think all gays are degenerates that rape little boys and are supporters of NAMBLA and they are the problem. My own uncle is one of those people.
Stop generalizing, and stop blaming the wrong party. You sound as bigoted as my stupid ass uncle sounds.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shiithead]
#22365352 - 10/11/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. I'm not blinded. I'm pissed off that so called responsible gun often owners don't think about anyone but themselves when they decide to buy a gun. It's just so easy to blame a criminal for whatever happens to their gun if it is stolen, but that gun may not have been stolen if they were more conscientious about where they leave it or if they never bough it in the first place.
By that logic, I guess we should blame heroin for making addicts steal from their family or let alone OP's brother's firearm. Its a drug problem really...
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. I've noticed that gun nuts are terrible at analogies.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shroomslip]
#22365357 - 10/11/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: You just want to blame gun owners, you do it constantly, you generalize the shit out of them. Say we're the problem.
You know to many people out there, you're a pedo, right? Yes. There is no shortage of people who think all gays are degenerates that rape little boys and are supporters of NAMBLA and they are the problem. My own uncle is one of those people.
Stop generalizing, and stop blaming the wrong party. You sound as bigoted as my stupid ass uncle sounds.
If you care about reponsible gun ownership then you should be just as annoyed at someone who treats their gun like its a half finished cup of coffee -- "oh I'll get that in the morning."
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: koods]
#22365360 - 10/11/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey at least you can give some constructive criticism.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: koods]
#22365378 - 10/11/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: You just want to blame gun owners, you do it constantly, you generalize the shit out of them. Say we're the problem.
You know to many people out there, you're a pedo, right? Yes. There is no shortage of people who think all gays are degenerates that rape little boys and are supporters of NAMBLA and they are the problem. My own uncle is one of those people.
Stop generalizing, and stop blaming the wrong party. You sound as bigoted as my stupid ass uncle sounds.
If you care about reponsible gun ownership then you should be just as annoyed at someone who treats their gun like its a half finished cup of coffee -- "oh I'll get that in the morning."
I do care about responsible ownership. Go through the shooting while on shrooms thread and on the first page you'll see me saying anyone proven to be irresponsible with guns should lose their ability to own them. But like I said already, he didn't leave it in some public place, nor was his car parked somewhere public. It was on his own property. The only thing that makes it any easier to access is the fact that it was a jeep, and even if it had been a locked car, we both know you'd still be making the same arguments. You cannot stop thieves and there is no way to guarantee a thief will never steal your gun no matter what you do.
It is my opinion that someone should be able to expect the same security of their house and car when the car is parked at their house. So if I can't fault the guy if the gun had been stolen from his house, I can't fault him for having it stolen from his car.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shroomslip]
#22365385 - 10/11/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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. You cannot stop thieves and there is no way to guarantee a thief will never still your gun no matter what you do.
Yeah there is. Don't own a gun
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shiithead]
#22365386 - 10/11/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: If you leave your door unlocked with the keys in the ignition and someone comes along and steals the vehicle and runs over a pedestrian speeding away from the crime, is it the thief's fault or the vehicle owner's fault??
Please answer this koods.
Vehicle owner's fault that it was stolen, thief's fault for the death. There are thieves in this world. This is known. Not taking simple precautions to reduce the risk of getting your shit stolen is pure apathy. They could've just broken a window, but didn't have to. Might've gone for it, or might've gone to an easier target.
I'm far from anti-gun, but I believe in common sense. Leaving a loaded gun in an unlocked car is irresponsible, plain & simple. The owner played a role in this. Denying that role is an inaccurate representation of the event.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: koods] 1
#22365395 - 10/11/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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. You cannot stop thieves and there is no way to guarantee a thief will never still your gun no matter what you do.
Yeah there is. Don't own a gun 
So don't own jewelry, electronics, food, dogs, don't have kids, I can keep going. That argument is retarded. Let's all just walk around completely naked, never owning anything and sleep wherever we may fall, because thieves can't be faulted for thieving, it's our responsibility to keep them from stealing.
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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way. I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today. Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear. I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear. You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Dark_Star]
#22365406 - 10/11/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter when it comes to the law.
You are either in the right or in the wrong in the eyes of the law.
You can't get away with theft if you are caught.
And if you break into my home, you won't get away.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shroomslip]
#22365408 - 10/11/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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. You cannot stop thieves and there is no way to guarantee a thief will never still your gun no matter what you do.
Yeah there is. Don't own a gun 
So don't own jewelry, electronics, food, dogs, don't have kids, I can keep going. That argument is retarded. Let's all just walk around completely naked, never owning anything and sleep wherever we may fall, because thieves can't be faulted for thieving, it's our responsibility to keep them from stealing.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shiithead]
#22365414 - 10/11/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wasn't referring to the law. But any cop will call you a dumbass if you leave your car unlocked, keys in the ignition & it gets jacked.
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Shroomslip]
#22365415 - 10/11/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Come on, you're better than that. You know we aren't talking about jewelry, food or an iPad. When those get stolen it sucks. They are not dangerous weapons. But a dog, yeah, good analogy. Ownership of an dog comes with responsibilities. You are liable for what happens to that dog. You are responsible if your dog attacks someone. If you can't deal with that you shouldn't own one.
And as for kids, you would go to jail if you left them in the car overnight
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: koods]
#22365433 - 10/11/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jewelry can be used to purchase black market weapons. Letting a thief take your jewelry funds their inevitable shooting spree that all gun owners must complete.
Even wood has value, so we can't even have a stick to swing at the wild animals while we wander around aimlessly, some thief might come when we finally fall over and pass out, and then kill someone with it. It's our responsibility to prevent them from being able to do that.
P.S. I've slept in cars overnight when I was a kid, my parents didn't go to jail for it.
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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way. I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today. Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear. I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear. You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline
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Re: Vehicles broken into last night [Re: Dark_Star]
#22365454 - 10/11/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I wasn't referring to the law. But any cop will call you a dumbass if you leave your car unlocked, keys in the ignition & it gets jacked.
Doesn't matter what a cop thinks (unless he kills you, a dead man can't talk.)
It's not what happened, it's what you can prove in a court of law.
That is why I encourage anyone to break into my home. I know my rights....
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