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OfflinePatlal
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So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. * 1
    #22358019 - 10/10/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It is legal for a fully veil muslim woman to vote without removal her veil to confirm her identity.

Today is anticipation voting day.. Voters are showing up wearing bag of potatoes on their heads, clown masks, some dude in Alberta was flying a Confederate flag.....

God damn it... Religious freedoms are destroying this country... Oh and guess what. all of the masked people's votes are entire legal....






Jesus fucking christ....

I'm dressing up as Darth Vader... I can't believe this shit...


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Patlal]
    #22358031 - 10/10/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There is a difference between allowing religious freedom and making exceptions for actions based on religious belief.  Making exceptions for religious belief is an implicit government support for a religion.  This is the opposite of equality.  If a rule is unimportant enough that a particular religion gets exempted then everybody should be exempted.  Otherwise, if the rule is important enough, there should be no exemption.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: DieCommie]
    #22358072 - 10/10/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Can't they just adapt to the new country to move into? Why do they have to bitch and moan the minute we tell them that things are different here?

Accomodating everybody means that nobody's specific individualism is to be put ahead of another. Meaning, just be normal for fuck sakes....


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: DieCommie]
    #22358089 - 10/10/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Does she have ID? Did she have to provide proof of identity to get that ID? If she did, and she takes her ID to the polling station to vote than what's the problem? It's a reasonable accommodation and ultimately it doesn't effect the majority population so...

I guess I'm a little confused. Religious accommodations are made in most of the Western world (including here in the states and in Canada I believe) and not just for Muslims  but for Sikhs, Jews, African Religion Traditionalists, Indigenous religions, etc. Are you as incensed by these accommodations or is it just Muslims you can't endure?


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: dionysiandame]
    #22358093 - 10/10/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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dionysiandame said:
Does she have ID? Did she have to provide proof of identity to get that ID? If she did, and she takes her ID to the polling station to vote than what's the problem? It's a reasonable accommodation and ultimately it doesn't effect the majority population so...

I guess I'm a little confused. Religious accommodations are made in most of the Western world (including here in the states and in Canada I believe) and not just for Muslims  but for Sikhs, Jews, African Religion Traditionalists, Indigenous religions, etc. Are you as incensed by these accommodations or is it just Muslims you can't endure?




If she has ID all she has to do is swear that she is who she is and she gets to vote...


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: dionysiandame] * 1
    #22358100 - 10/10/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

dionysiandame said:
Does she have ID? Did she have to provide proof of identity to get that ID? If she did, and she takes her ID to the polling station to vote than what's the problem? It's a reasonable accommodation and ultimately it doesn't effect the majority population so...

I guess I'm a little confused. Religious accommodations are made in most of the Western world (including here in the states and in Canada I believe) and not just for Muslims  but for Sikhs, Jews, African Religion Traditionalists, Indigenous religions, etc. Are you as incensed by these accommodations or is it just Muslims you can't endure?




Its not like ID makes a difference if you are wearing a mask :lol:


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Patlal]
    #22358108 - 10/10/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Voters are showing up wearing bag of potatoes on their heads

God damn it... Religious freedoms are destroying this country... Oh and guess what. all of the masked people's votes are entire legal....






I see no potatoes nor anything indicating there are still potatoes in that bag

now, to support the confederate flag guy "she just got a tater sack on her head"
some folks around here would just call it a poke


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pics or it didnt happen


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22358109 - 10/10/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Religious accomodation in Canada has been irritating in the past and is now getting rediculous.

A few year back a kid brought a kirpan to school (essentially a big ass knife) to his elemenatry school and was allowed to keep it do to religious accomodation.

There has been special cases of spousal abuse that was tolerated due to religious accomodation.

A father killed his daughter because she had sex before marriage and the trial went on forever instead of simply being 1st degree murder

Now you can vote anonymously wearing masks.


The slippery slope is getting very steep and people are afraid to say anything by fear of it being called hate speech and being coined as racists or closed minded. The youth of this country has been won't dare saying anything that could potentially offend anyone anywhere... You can't speak your mind anymore... I said that a black James Bond would be weird at work... Some girl called me racist. I told her to go fuck herself with the bill of rights. I don't give a fuck if you disagree with what I'm saying, but I will tell you to shut the fuck up if you judge me.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Patlal]
    #22358113 - 10/10/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:


If she has ID all she has to do is swear that she is who she is and she gets to vote...




Yeah...and? Are you worried about voter fraud? Because that happens on a far lower scale than some thundering pundits would have us believe. Also, the number of veiled women is minuscule compared to the greater non-veiled population, then consider how many of them are actually going to vote which makes that number even lower. So you're zooming in on a very very very very small portion of women you think might be trying to rig elections.

If rigging elections is even what this about.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22358118 - 10/10/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Now you can vote anonymously wearing masks.





you know what you need to do

you need to coordinate



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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: dionysiandame]
    #22358120 - 10/10/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

dionysiandame said:
Quote:

Patlal said:


If she has ID all she has to do is swear that she is who she is and she gets to vote...




Yeah...and? Are you worried about voter fraud? Because that happens on a far lower scale than some thundering pundits would have us believe. Also, the number of veiled women is minuscule compared to the greater non-veiled population, then consider how many of them are actually going to vote which makes that number even lower. So you're zooming in on a very very very very small portion of women you think might be trying to rig elections.

If rigging elections is even what this about.




Personally, I don't give a fuck. their votes won't make the difference. It's the ridiculousness of it that pisses me off. Refusing to show your face because of your stupid superstition is beyond logic and common sense. Someone has to put a stop to this non-sense before they manage to gain more and more ground on shit like this.

This is 2015 and religion still has us by the balls.... We fought tooth and nails to finally get the church out of government and now we turn around and Islam is undoing what our ancestors fought for... Unacceptable.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22358134 - 10/10/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Religious accomodation in Canada has been irritating in the past and is now getting rediculous.

A few year back a kid brought a kirpan to school (essentially a big ass knife) to his elemenatry school and was allowed to keep it do to religious accomodation.

There has been special cases of spousal abuse that was tolerated due to religious accomodation.

A father killed his daughter because she had sex before marriage and the trial went on forever instead of simply being 1st degree murder

Now you can vote anonymously wearing masks.


The slippery slope is getting very steep and people are afraid to say anything by fear of it being called hate speech and being coined as racists or closed minded. The youth of this country has been won't dare saying anything that could potentially offend anyone anywhere... You can't speak your mind anymore... I said that a black James Bond would be weird at work... Some girl called me racist. I told her to go fuck herself with the bill of rights. I don't give a fuck if you disagree with what I'm saying, but I will tell you to shut the fuck up if you judge me.




And here's the crux of the issue. You don't care about the elections at all, this is just a place for you to vent your frustrations behind not being able to be Bigot White Guy without having to hear other people's opinions. Boo-hoo, a girl called you racist at work, life for you is so hard having to deal with those kinds of slurs. So hard being a white male today. I feel for you, I really do. Here's a tissue and you can cry your white tears on my shoulder.

I like to collect them for my dewy complexion.

I'll do a google search for the stories you mentioned because they do sound interesting and could very well point to religious accommodation being misapplied especially since "safety" is one of the fundamental building blocks of this kind of legislature.It would be...odd for these kinds of incidents to continuously occur.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22358148 - 10/10/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Personally I have no problem with Sikhs carrying Kirpans, Sikhs are amazing high quality people and I would never feel threatened by one wearing one of the five essential signs of their faith. Has there ever been a single recorded case of a Sikh stabbing  someone with a kirpan in modern society?

Are you really going to worry about a ceremonial knife when thousands of Americans are
Allowed to open or concealed carry handguns ?


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22358202 - 10/10/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sikh's are some of the most tolerant practitioner's of any religion.

but this is ridiculous.

what good is identification without being able to identity THE PERSON?

:facepalm:

i think these mother's are trolling you Patlal.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #22358205 - 10/10/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:
Personally I have no problem with Sikhs carrying Kirpans, Sikhs are amazing high quality people and I would never feel threatened by one wearing one of the five essential signs of their faith. Has there ever been a single recorded case of a Sikh stabbing  someone with a kirpan in modern society?

Are you really going to worry about a ceremonial knife when thousands of Americans are
Allowed to open or concealed carry handguns ?




Sikhs are pretty awesome.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: dionysiandame]
    #22358260 - 10/10/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

dionysiandame said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Religious accomodation in Canada has been irritating in the past and is now getting rediculous.

A few year back a kid brought a kirpan to school (essentially a big ass knife) to his elemenatry school and was allowed to keep it do to religious accomodation.

There has been special cases of spousal abuse that was tolerated due to religious accomodation.

A father killed his daughter because she had sex before marriage and the trial went on forever instead of simply being 1st degree murder

Now you can vote anonymously wearing masks.


The slippery slope is getting very steep and people are afraid to say anything by fear of it being called hate speech and being coined as racists or closed minded. The youth of this country has been won't dare saying anything that could potentially offend anyone anywhere... You can't speak your mind anymore... I said that a black James Bond would be weird at work... Some girl called me racist. I told her to go fuck herself with the bill of rights. I don't give a fuck if you disagree with what I'm saying, but I will tell you to shut the fuck up if you judge me.




And here's the crux of the issue. You don't care about the elections at all, this is just a place for you to vent your frustrations behind not being able to be Bigot White Guy without having to hear other people's opinions. Boo-hoo, a girl called you racist at work, life for you is so hard having to deal with those kinds of slurs. So hard being a white male today. I feel for you, I really do. Here's a tissue and you can cry your white tears on my shoulder.

I like to collect them for my dewy complexion.

I'll do a google search for the stories you mentioned because they do sound interesting and could very well point to religious accommodation being misapplied especially since "safety" is one of the fundamental building blocks of this kind of legislature.It would be...odd for these kinds of incidents to continuously occur.





how cute, a bigot complaining about a bigot's biggotry


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22358286 - 10/10/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:
Personally I have no problem with Sikhs carrying Kirpans, Sikhs are amazing high quality people and I would never feel threatened by one wearing one of the five essential signs of their faith. Has there ever been a single recorded case of a Sikh stabbing  someone with a kirpan in modern society?

Are you really going to worry about a ceremonial knife when thousands of Americans are
Allowed to open or concealed carry handguns ?





no, Sikhs would never do such a thing because they're a religion of peace

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-497453/Sikh-student-jailed-stabbing-pregnant-Muslim-love-rival.html
http://www.firstpost.com/india/cop-stabbed-in-sikh-protests-in-jammu-mobile-and-internet-services-suspended-as-tension-ensues-2281964.html
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/miscreants-stab-police-constable-run-away-with-his-ak-47-rifle-in-jammu-amidst-sikh-police-clashes/

I find it so amusing people claiming to be open minded gobble up the propaganda
of the religious based simply on what they're told by the propagandists


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22358294 - 10/10/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

dionysiandame said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Religious accomodation in Canada has been irritating in the past and is now getting rediculous.

A few year back a kid brought a kirpan to school (essentially a big ass knife) to his elemenatry school and was allowed to keep it do to religious accomodation.

There has been special cases of spousal abuse that was tolerated due to religious accomodation.

A father killed his daughter because she had sex before marriage and the trial went on forever instead of simply being 1st degree murder

Now you can vote anonymously wearing masks.


The slippery slope is getting very steep and people are afraid to say anything by fear of it being called hate speech and being coined as racists or closed minded. The youth of this country has been won't dare saying anything that could potentially offend anyone anywhere... You can't speak your mind anymore... I said that a black James Bond would be weird at work... Some girl called me racist. I told her to go fuck herself with the bill of rights. I don't give a fuck if you disagree with what I'm saying, but I will tell you to shut the fuck up if you judge me.




And here's the crux of the issue. You don't care about the elections at all, this is just a place for you to vent your frustrations behind not being able to be Bigot White Guy without having to hear other people's opinions. Boo-hoo, a girl called you racist at work, life for you is so hard having to deal with those kinds of slurs. So hard being a white male today. I feel for you, I really do. Here's a tissue and you can cry your white tears on my shoulder.

I like to collect them for my dewy complexion.

I'll do a google search for the stories you mentioned because they do sound interesting and could very well point to religious accommodation being misapplied especially since "safety" is one of the fundamental building blocks of this kind of legislature.It would be...odd for these kinds of incidents to continuously occur.





how cute, a bigot complaining about a bigot's biggotry




": a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)"

You're using words you don't know the meaning of sweetheart. Here...



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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22358297 - 10/10/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

oh there is instances in CanaDUR too. :yesnod:

they don't have their God at their finger tips all the time, they couldn't possibly...especially young and arrogant Sikhs.  :cookiemonster:

so we have Sikh's, we have Buddhist's, do we have any massive committal of Jainist violence as well, Prisoner? :lol:


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22358450 - 10/10/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thread is just another example of how Canadians are really facists.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22358457 - 10/10/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

if this was happening in America, there'd be an uproar.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22358468 - 10/10/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nah. Muslim  women vote covered up here, and people don't complain because we actually believe in freedom. There was a brief uproar about Muslims after 9/11, but sanity has largely prevailed.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22358470 - 10/10/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My question was - has there ever been a case of a Sikh stabbing someone with a Kirpan?

Also saying Sikhism is a religion of peace is furnamentally wrong. Sihkism is and has always been a warrior religion. Sikhs are an army- the Khalsa.

They were created explicitly to serve as warriors and defenders. They are peerless soldiers and have been warriors since their creation as a religion. They were intended to act as a bulwark against Muslim
Conquerors and to protect the Hindus from Muslim extermination.

They have never claimed to be a religion of peace but instead a religion of honourable warrior guardians and enlightened wise men.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: dionysiandame]
    #22358485 - 10/10/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

dionysiandame said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
how cute, a bigot complaining about a bigot's biggotry




": a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)"

You're using words you don't know the meaning of sweetheart. Here...





so you're fine with bigots and racists, you like their ideas


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22358492 - 10/10/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Moonshoe said:
My question was - has there ever been a case of a Sikh stabbing someone with a Kirpan?

Also saying Sikhism is a religion of peace is furnamentally wrong. Sihkism is and has always been a warrior religion. Sikhs are an army- the Khalsa.

They were created explicitly to serve as warriors and defenders. They are peerless soldiers and have been warriors since their creation as a religion. They were intended to act as a bulwark against Muslim
Conquerors and to protect the Hindus from Muslim extermination.

They have never claimed to be a religion of peace but instead a religion of honourable warrior guardians and enlightened wise men.





I see, so the actual weapon is what makes all the fucking difference

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2010/04/06/brampton_kirpan_attack_renews_debate_over_sikh_daggers.html


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22358495 - 10/10/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nah. Muslim  women vote covered up here, and people don't complain because we actually believe in freedom. There was a brief uproar about Muslims after 9/11, but sanity has largely prevailed.



i personally don't care what they do. i just wanna know what good is an ID without being able to identify the person who's handing you the ID? the ID could be stolen, couldn't it?

that's my only instance of concern, if you could even call it that.

so don't lump all Canadians in with Patlal.

please, it's really sickening. so all that hysteria back with 9/11, boy all you Americans are so against freedom's ideals, eh, because look how you really function when it comes down to the devil in the details.




see? see how that's just marginalizing and rude?

but you're free to be rude...just imagine though, if all judged nations based on a few individuals. boy wouldn't that be grand?

i see alot of preaching about judging people here, yet you're judging people still. i thought this was a no-no?

case in point: Patlal does not represent Canada...the face of Canada resembles a cluster of invariably misshapen macaronies, and comes about a very chance-like apparition.


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22358517 - 10/10/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nah. Muslim  women vote covered up here, and people don't complain because we actually believe in freedom. There was a brief uproar about Muslims after 9/11, but sanity has largely prevailed.



i personally don't care what they do. i just wanna know what good is an ID without being able to identify the person who's handing you the ID? the ID could be stolen, couldn't it?





given that another man is not to look upon the face of a muslim woman, it would
seem that there has to be an easy solution, I cant put my finger on it but I'm
sure there's one out there. oh man, if we could just get someone that's all
brainy and shit in here with their smarts to tell us what it is

how can we possibly respect the actual religious freedom of these muslim women
while allowing the rest of canada to feel that the IDs are validated to the
person presenting it?



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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22358526 - 10/10/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i honestly thought that's what this was about? :shrug: i've never voted though. i don't even have an ID. never needed one.

maybe you could inform me of what procedure would conclude that the person one is ID'ing is actually the person on the identification? otherwise, i dunno, f0rk off?


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    #22358552 - 10/10/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well yes what we were discussing is whether Sikhs should be allowed to carry kirpans so obviously only kirpan attacks are relevant. Even if there have been a few it doesn't indicate any problem as there has certainly been dramatically more attacks with regular knives that people can legally carry in their pockets each year then all the kirpan attacks ever combined.

Obviously the real issue is firearms not kirpans. Thousands of people die each year from handguns and people Are more worried about a ceremonial dagger.

Being scared of a Sikhs kirpan is ridiculous . Anyone is allowed To carry a small knife in their pocket, why should it be scary just because they wear it on the outside of their clothes ?

Furthermore because the kirpan is a symbol of faith more then a weapon many Sikhs wear a blunted one.

Just to scare you more he metal bracelet they wear can be used as brass knuckles, the turbans they wear can be used as a garrote to strangle you , and their special underwear can be wadded up and stuffed in your mouth to silence you while they rape you.


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    #22358562 - 10/10/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

PS: i guess it was all non-judgemental absolute and just freedom when Englishmen came across the ocean and planted themselves in Indian land and said "for freedom's sake!"

hell, the constitution was written in Heaven before any of that happened, probably, according to manifest destiny...America is like Heaven's Apollo.


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    #22358564 - 10/10/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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i honestly thought that's what this was about? :shrug: i've never voted though. i don't even have an ID. never needed one.

maybe you could inform me of what procedure would conclude that the person one is ID'ing is actually the person on the identification? otherwise, i dunno, f0rk off?





I dont know what this is about, it's a canadian problem and that shit keeps
spilling over into the US, fucking obama wont follow my advice and simply
invade that godless country and steal their oil



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    #22358578 - 10/10/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

JUST DO IT! we'll bomb the ever living shit out of the both of us, at once, just for good Canadian measure. :durrhurr:


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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22358588 - 10/10/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Considering how often Canadians on this board like to bash America, this is just a two for two. No way am I gonna miss an opportunity to rip the rug out from under one of the high mighty canada is supreme posters on these boards....particularly one that spends so much time trashing the US. Talking about Patlal here of course.

Far as the IDs go; signatures. Here you have sign by your name in a book when you vote. They can ensure the signatures match up. Additionally, there are questions that can answered. Consider online signatures for example. There are no pictures.....no human contact even. Instead there are passwords, and security questions.

Not all Muslims take being covered super seriously, but many do. It is very important for those women to not be seen by a male that is not a relative. Even being in a room with another man without their husband and/or another  woman is problematic for them. I don't understand that, and never will. However it's not my place to judge, nor is it my place to tell them they have to adapt.


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Nah. Muslim  women vote covered up here, and people don't complain because we actually believe in freedom. There was a brief uproar about Muslims after 9/11, but sanity has largely prevailed.



i personally don't care what they do. i just wanna know what good is an ID without being able to identify the person who's handing you the ID? the ID could be stolen, couldn't it?





given that another man is not to look upon the face of a muslim woman, it would
seem that there has to be an easy solution, I cant put my finger on it but I'm
sure there's one out there. oh man, if we could just get someone that's all
brainy and shit in here with their smarts to tell us what it is

how can we possibly respect the actual religious freedom of these muslim women
while allowing the rest of canada to feel that the IDs are validated to the
person presenting it?





Hey, maybe they could show their face to a woman. :gooby:


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    #22358595 - 10/10/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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JUST DO IT! we'll bomb the ever living shit out of the both of us, at once, just for good Canadian measure. :durrhurr:





hahahaha... that's some funny shit

maple syrup and poutine makes shitty bombs


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    #22358603 - 10/10/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for answering. i mean signatures...duh. they can match the signatures.... but online voting, i don't really get how it works, but it's probably got it's own checks and whatnot.

yeah, Patlal is the resident Canada is better than US erm jockey, but secretly he wants to be an American, and he's like "jeez, i gotta pass the test, gotta pass the test" and just studying himself into oblivion.

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JUST DO IT! we'll bomb the ever living shit out of the both of us, at once, just for good Canadian measure. :durrhurr:





hahahaha... that's some funny shit

maple syrup and poutine makes shitty bombs



BUT tasty ones.


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I don't think Canada has online voting (federally anyway?) There is an option of voting by mail though.


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    #22358621 - 10/10/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My question was - has there ever been a case of a Sikh stabbing someone with a Kirpan?





How about we make sure now that there won't be one in the future?


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Nah. Muslim  women vote covered up here, and people don't complain because we actually believe in freedom. There was a brief uproar about Muslims after 9/11, but sanity has largely prevailed.



i personally don't care what they do. i just wanna know what good is an ID without being able to identify the person who's handing you the ID? the ID could be stolen, couldn't it?





given that another man is not to look upon the face of a muslim woman, it would
seem that there has to be an easy solution, I cant put my finger on it but I'm
sure there's one out there. oh man, if we could just get someone that's all
brainy and shit in here with their smarts to tell us what it is

how can we possibly respect the actual religious freedom of these muslim women
while allowing the rest of canada to feel that the IDs are validated to the
person presenting it?





Hey, maybe they could show their face to a woman. :gooby:




I dont know how something like that could possibly work, maybe we need some one with brains to figure it out




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Re: So the Canadian elections are officially a joke due to niqab laws.. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22358638 - 10/10/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sure lets ban an essential religious observance in order to prevent a hypothetical future stabbing. We should also ban the crucifixes people wear around their necks because it's only a matter of time before someone stabs somebody in the eye with one. And don't get me started on Hannukah menoras , sooner or later some Jew will rampage through a hospital smashing babies with them.

Oops too late "KLEINFELTERSVILLE, Pa. -- Authorities say a man trying to rob a homeowner stabbed him in the face with a metal crucifix and beat him with a baseball bat."


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    #22358639 - 10/10/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What pisses me off is that they force us to play their game. They came here. They do what we say. not the other way around.


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    #22358645 - 10/10/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sure lets ban an essential religious observance in order to prevent a hypothetical future stabbing. We should also ban the crucifixes people wear around their necks because it's only a matter of time before someone stabs somebody in the eye with one. And don't get me started on Hannukah menoras , sooner or later some Jew will rampage through a hospital smashing babies with them.

Oops too late "KLEINFELTERSVILLE, Pa. -- Authorities say a man trying to rob a homeowner stabbed him in the face with a metal crucifix and beat him with a baseball bat."


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/874605




We ban guns to prevent future shootings and it works wonderfully.

When a kid brings a knife to school, it crosses the line. Can we have a weapon free classroom?

Sure maybe the sikh kid will never ever use it. what about the idiot bully that it'll take it from him?

No knife in classroom = 0% chance to get stabbed by that knife in the classroom


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    #22358656 - 10/10/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Canada could be a secular paradise!  :mallow: i shall reclaim my throne as rightful heir!


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Canada could be a secular paradise!  :mallow:




Apparently, it can't.


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    #22358666 - 10/10/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

dude, you're a sovereign citizen; go be THE MAN. don't let Mr. Bungle ruin everyone's learning and institutionalization.


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    #22358674 - 10/10/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Religion poisons everything it touches and it pisses me off....


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    #22358688 - 10/10/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What pisses me off is that they force us to play their game. They came here. They do what we say. not the other way around.




so you'll be moving into an igloo, kayaking to work and eating blubber any minute
now... maybe you just like the idea of slavery and forcing your own beliefs on
people, is this the true face of canada showing. would you like to deny them the
right to vote... what if they're born in canada, can they wear this headgear since
they didnt move there but still observe these strict religious customs?


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Sure lets ban an essential religious observance in order to prevent a hypothetical future stabbing. We should also ban the crucifixes people wear around their necks because it's only a matter of time before someone stabs somebody in the eye with one. And don't get me started on Hannukah menoras , sooner or later some Jew will rampage through a hospital smashing babies with them.

Oops too late "KLEINFELTERSVILLE, Pa. -- Authorities say a man trying to rob a homeowner stabbed him in the face with a metal crucifix and beat him with a baseball bat."


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/874605




We ban guns to prevent future shootings and it works wonderfully.

When a kid brings a knife to school, it crosses the line. Can we have a weapon free classroom?

Sure maybe the sikh kid will never ever use it. what about the idiot bully that it'll take it from him?

No knife in classroom = 0% chance to get stabbed by that knife in the classroom





hahaha... are you really that deluded?


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Moonshoe said:
Sure lets ban an essential religious observance in order to prevent a hypothetical future stabbing. We should also ban the crucifixes people wear around their necks because it's only a matter of time before someone stabs somebody in the eye with one. And don't get me started on Hannukah menoras , sooner or later some Jew will rampage through a hospital smashing babies with them.

Oops too late "KLEINFELTERSVILLE, Pa. -- Authorities say a man trying to rob a homeowner stabbed him in the face with a metal crucifix and beat him with a baseball bat."


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/874605




We ban guns to prevent future shootings and it works wonderfully.

When a kid brings a knife to school, it crosses the line. Can we have a weapon free classroom?

Sure maybe the sikh kid will never ever use it. what about the idiot bully that it'll take it from him?

No knife in classroom = 0% chance to get stabbed by that knife in the classroom





hahaha... are you really that deluded?




Unless a knife materializes in thin air. no knives in classroom = 0 chance of getting stabbed by a knife in a classroom.

If that's a delusion to you, so be it..


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    #22358751 - 10/10/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They can just wear blunted kirpans in school, problem solved and no need to refuse their fundamental religious practice. A blunted kirpan is no more dangerous then a butter knife. And kids in schools have scissors which they could stab someone with, or pencils. A sharp pencil makes a good shiv.


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They can just wear blunted kirpans in school, problem solved and no need to refuse their fundamental religious practice. A blunted kirpan is no more dangerous then a butter knife. And kids in schools have scissors which they could stab someone with, or pencils. A sharp pencil makes a good shiv.



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