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AkaAlias
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Pics and notes
#22357721 - 10/10/15 05:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi everyone.
I found these pics and notes and thought to share them here.
"The Setup:"

"Colonised (Ecuadorian or (probably) Columbian?) straw and verm casing (39x39x~3cm):"

"First pins:"

"Some time later:"

"20 hours later:"

"20 hours later:"

"First flush 230g fresh:"

Additional notes found: "Ready for dunk (poked holes into substrate to facilitate soaking up of water). Additional verm casing sterilized and ready to be applied after dunk."
Edited by AkaAlias (10/10/15 06:03 AM)
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LocN9ne
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: AkaAlias]
#22357749 - 10/10/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't stab holes in your sub...and don't recase after a flush and a dunk...both of those are just asking for contamination.
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: LocN9ne]
#22357812 - 10/10/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice grow. Was that MS inoculation?
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Psilosoulful

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Those clay pebbles really do work, huh? Haven't seen someone use them in awhile. I might give them a shot.
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AkaAlias
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: LocN9ne]
#22358054 - 10/10/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: Don't stab holes in your sub...and don't recase after a flush and a dunk...both of those are just asking for contamination.
I thought it wouldn't make a lot of difference. If I ever find the person who made the pics, I'll be sure to pass this info on.
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Supalemonhaze said: Nice grow. Was that MS inoculation?
I'm not sure what MS stands for. The notes state: "...had some spores left from 2012. Inoculated whole Brown Rice and used one cake as spawn for the straw..."
*Edit: Oh, Multi Spore, I see. No, not multispore according to the notes. It seems a mixup in the distant past had made the cultivator unsure as to the specific strain. Ecuadorian or Columbian. Any way to tell?
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Psilosoulful said: Those clay pebbles really do work, huh? Haven't seen someone use them in awhile. I might give them a shot.
It seems they do, judging from the pics. Though I do think regular misting is still required.
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Edited by AkaAlias (10/10/15 08:45 AM)
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: AkaAlias]
#22358344 - 10/10/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why are you posting other peoples stuff?? That's kinda weird.
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Sksoul
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: AkaAlias]
#22358420 - 10/10/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Nice grow. Was that MS inoculation?
I'm not sure what MS stands for. The notes state: "...had some spores left from 2012. Inoculated whole Brown Rice and used one cake as spawn for the straw..."
*Edit: Oh, Multi Spore, I see. No, not multispore according to the notes. It seems a mixup in the distant past had made the cultivator unsure as to the specific strain. Ecuadorian or Columbian. Any way to tell?
Using spores means "multi spore"... so.... yes, you did use multi spore
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AkaAlias
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: Sksoul]
#22359625 - 10/10/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: Why are you posting other peoples stuff?? That's kinda weird.
I thought me being weird was quite obvious looking at my sig... 
As for the post above: Nope, not multi spore. Just one type of strain. The mixup wasn't with the spores themselves, but with the labeling. Therefore there is a slight chance that the spores used are Cambodian. They could be Ecuadorian spores. But the two were never mixed.
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Edited by AkaAlias (10/10/15 03:16 PM)
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: AkaAlias]
#22360029 - 10/10/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Multi (meaning more than one) and spore, when used together in the term 'multispore', means more than one spore. It means you didn't start with a clone or an isolate, but went from spores to mushrooms. Your grow was multispore.
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: Sksoul]
#22360040 - 10/10/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the mix up is that vendors call varieties strains. they're varieties not strains. if you inject spores into something it's MS and you have 100s of strains growing at the same time. they're not fighting with each other but they're not necessarily sharing either. when you grow from MS and clone a mushroom the clone itself can still be made up of multiple strains and not be an isolate.
this is why you can take every variety and mix them all together and inject one single cake and it wouldn't matter in the least
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: Sksoul]
#22360336 - 10/10/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sksoul said: Multi (meaning more than one) and spore, when used together in the term 'multispore', means more than one spore. It means you didn't start with a clone or an isolate, but went from spores to mushrooms. Your grow was multispore.
That's not his grow... just some pictures he found and re-posted...
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AkaAlias
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Quote:
Sksoul said: Multi (meaning more than one) and spore, when used together in the term 'multispore', means more than one spore. It means you didn't start with a clone or an isolate, but went from spores to mushrooms. Your grow was multispore.
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bodhisatta said: the mix up is that vendors call varieties strains. they're varieties not strains. if you inject spores into something it's MS and you have 100s of strains growing at the same time. they're not fighting with each other but they're not necessarily sharing either. when you grow from MS and clone a mushroom the clone itself can still be made up of multiple strains and not be an isolate.
this is why you can take every variety and mix them all together and inject one single cake and it wouldn't matter in the least
The spawn was creating with a single print. So this still makes it a multi spore? I'm not sure if the spores were from the Ecuadorian strain variation or the Columbian. Probably Columbian. Thank you for the explanation! That clears a few things up. Much appreciated!
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: AkaAlias]
#22361981 - 10/11/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes that is still multispore. In the tiniest spore print there are millions of spores and in theory you only need 2 compatible spores to get fruit yeilding mycelium. So you can imagine how many different dikaryiotic mycelium are in a MS inoculation.
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AkaAlias
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First flush was about 225g fresh. Dried (cracker dry) the result is about 22,5g.
*edit: spelling correction
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Edited by AkaAlias (11/04/15 09:16 AM)
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AkaAlias
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: AkaAlias]
#22434661 - 10/26/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful

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Re: Pics and notes [Re: AkaAlias]
#22434957 - 10/26/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
AkaAlias said:
Eat both
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AkaAlias
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Second flush turned out te be about 8,5g once dried. The total as of now is about 31g cracker dry shrooms after two flushes.
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Re: Pics and notes [Re: AkaAlias]
#22475142 - 11/04/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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AkaAlias said: "2nd Flush, ~100g fresh.

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