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do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today?
    #22356210 - 10/09/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i think so.

many peeps brush off these unidentifiable objects in the sky as mere man made satellites and what not, but i think they are much more than that, whatever that may be is as great a mystery as the oceans..

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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22356219 - 10/09/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Have you been watching the ancient aliens marathon today as well?


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #22356234 - 10/09/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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zZZz said:
i think so.





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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: dpomalia]
    #22356236 - 10/09/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

no i've had these thoughts for a while now, 

since like the last trip i had, during the eclipse, there was a ufo right next to the moon maneuvering back and forth like a swing. i didnt even take that much psychdelic, it was a very low dose..


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #22356245 - 10/09/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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since like the last trip i had, during the eclipse, there was a ufo right next to the moon maneuvering back and forth like a swing. i didnt even take that much psychdelic, it was a very low dose..





let's see... drugs, tripping, psychedelics... it must have been aliens right


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22356255 - 10/09/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:ancientaliens:


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #22356290 - 10/09/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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it must have been aliens right




i never said aliens, u did  :thisfuckinguy:


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22356349 - 10/09/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If there is intelligent life , which i like to believe there is a nice chance of it existing, simply because We cant be that lucky.. i highly doubt they would be able to travel light years ... they most likely would be as stuck as us.. thats just my opinion though im always open minded to anything though


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #22356360 - 10/09/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I doubt that humans will be 'stuck' on earth in 500 years, and 500 years is an infinitesimal period of development... an off-world civilization could easily have 10 million years of development on us.


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22356377 - 10/09/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The things actually happening in the sky are pretty interesting. We don't need to get all Ancient Aliens about it.


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22356398 - 10/09/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

10 million years is a long time for a intelligent specie to be around... but in that amount of time id hope theyd figure light speed out hahha


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22356406 - 10/09/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The things actually happening in the sky are pretty interesting. We don't need to get all Ancient Aliens about it.




no, but we can get smart about it and acknowledge them i suppose


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22356420 - 10/09/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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zZZz said:
i think so.

many peeps brush off these unidentifiable objects in the sky as mere man made satellites and what not, but i think they are much more than that, whatever that may be is as great a mystery as the oceans..

discuss




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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: 1234go]
    #22356432 - 10/09/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i see em sober all the time, but the real crazy ones come out when u;re tripping balls


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22356442 - 10/09/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: 1234go]
    #22356446 - 10/09/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i wouldnt expect an undeveloped mind to understand


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22356540 - 10/09/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do you think it's possible that there have been alien conspiracy theorists throughout much of human history?

Who really knows if something is extraterrestrial without sufficient data to make a valid judgement. It's much more implausible in this day and age to dismiss wacky alien theories because we have a much better understanding of space and what we're looking at, not to mention satellites, space stations, and over 8000 pieces of space junk flying around in orbit and a multitude of man made stuff that flies around Earth's skies. Sure, going back in history rules out all the man-made stuff, but it also leaves plenty of room for the imagination to run wild.

Were the ancients seeing the same unidentified flying objects that we see today? For the most part, probably not. Does it lend any more credit to alien theories? No it does not.

That being said, I don't try to refute the possibility of existence of aliens, this universe is incomprehensibly vast. But as far as intelligent life tourism on Earth goes, so far I'm not convinced.



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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22356582 - 10/09/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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not to mention satellites, space stations, and over 8000 pieces of space junk flying around in orbit and a multitude of man made stuff that flies around Earth's skies




see that's what sayin, what if it is not just space junk flying around; satellites, space stations, etc. etc. can these things even be seen from earth?..


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22356615 - 10/09/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There's certain things that if you'd been there too you definitely wouldn't have thought it was 'space junk' :lol: Space junk doesn't go insanely fast one direction, stop on a dime, do circles, split into 3 parts, recombine, and repeat.


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #22356643 - 10/09/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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10 million years is a long time for a intelligent specie to be around... but in that amount of time id hope theyd figure light speed out hahha




One other thing to consider is there is so much we cannot perceive and have yet to fully understand, there are countless possibilities.

Like some form of higher dimensional life forms, we being 3rd dimensional beings would only really perceive them if they wanted us to. That is just one possibility of many.


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: twighead]
    #22356651 - 10/09/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

shit's crazy right?  :sunspots:

now im wondering, what if the ancients, like the mayans, or the egyptians n shit were seeing these same maneuvering space thingamajigs back then?, what must have they been thinking?


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: twighead]
    #22356803 - 10/09/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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There's certain things that if you'd been there too you definitely wouldn't have thought it was 'space junk' :lol: Space junk doesn't go insanely fast one direction, stop on a dime, do circles, split into 3 parts, recombine, and repeat.



ive seen things that most certainly weren't "space junk"


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: Psychedelics yummy]
    #22357316 - 10/10/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I wasn't saying it was all space junk. :picard:


Edited by Into The Woods (10/10/15 12:59 AM)


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22359496 - 10/10/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg
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    "In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun, above and below and on both sides, the color was blood, there stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferrous color. Likewise there stood on both sides and as a torus about the sun such blood-red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth ‘as if they all burned’ and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west. Whatever such signs mean, God alone knows. Although we have seen, shortly one after another, many kinds of signs on the heaven, which are sent to us by the almighty God, to bring us to repentance, we still are, unfortunately, so ungrateful that we despise such high signs and miracles of God. Or we speak of them with ridicule and discard them to the wind, in order that God may send us a frightening punishment on account of our ungratefulness. After all, the God-fearing will by no means discard these signs, but will take it to heart as a warning of their merciful Father in heaven, will mend their lives and faithfully beg God, that He may avert His wrath, including the well-deserved punishment, on us, so that we may temporarily here and perpetually there, live as his children. For it, may God grant us his help, Amen. By Hanns Glaser, letter-painter of Nurnberg."[8]




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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22359575 - 10/10/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug:

I've seen one creature that could've been an 'alien' or who fucking knows what lolo, but my friend and I were driving to our secluded house up on a mountain when we saw this dark, about dog sized creature in the road... which then proceeded to split into 3 parts that seemed energetically connected and oscillated between one another like a slinky... it had definite weight as evidenced by the sounds of the crashing foliage as it traveled through the brush and then totally disappeared when it reached a tree. Me and her saw the exact same thing though :shocked:


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22360058 - 10/10/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No I'm not what makes you think that?


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22360059 - 10/10/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

bear with 2 cubs = :ancientaliens:


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22360062 - 10/10/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nigga I've seen plenty of bears, and they're a lot bigger than this ting, nor can bears split from one object into 3 or completely evaporate. This was from like 50 feet away.


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22360092 - 10/10/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Pretty neutral, it seemed like it didn't really want any encounters but it wasn't panicked or malevolent feeling at all. Just like it was about some sort of business that probably didn't include me :lol:


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22360136 - 10/10/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I've seen UFOs quite a few times while tripping; both on high and low doses and they were seen by people who were tripping with me as well.
Besides their strange flight patterns they also were accompanied by a very strange vibe.
I've watched planes and helicopters while tripping and I never got the 'watcher' affect; but with these UFOs I felt them watching me;
not to mention the strange 'radio' sounds that accompanied them as well as the way electronics malfunctioned when they were around.

To answer your question about whether they are the same UFOs that the ancients speak of, I cannot say;
however I would not be surprised as the 'vibe'/telepathy I got from the UFOs that I saw were that they had been visiting us for a very long time.




Funny u mention the vibe, that's exactly how I feel when seeing these things, like on the last trip, i saw the ufo swerving back and forth and immediately thought, "it knows I'm here..", i was like you fuck this shit and went back inside.


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22360219 - 10/10/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its almost a certainty that there are civilizations on other planets and that some of them are much more advanced than we are. I have little doubt that they have visited on occasion but since they don't do interviews on tv, the average person is not sure about it.

An interesting thing is that any discussion about healthy food, toxins and so on gets put pronto into the conspiracies forum. But this, is allowed to remain here.


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: twighead] * 1
    #22360474 - 10/10/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:shrug:

I've seen one creature that could've been an 'alien' or who fucking knows what lolo, but my friend and I were driving to our secluded house up on a mountain when we saw this dark, about dog sized creature in the road... which then proceeded to split into 3 parts that seemed energetically connected and oscillated between one another like a slinky... it had definite weight as evidenced by the sounds of the crashing foliage as it traveled through the brush and then totally disappeared when it reached a tree. Me and her saw the exact same thing though :shocked:




intense, how many drugs were you on?


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22360711 - 10/10/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it kinda frightens me to be honest, i get the same vibe from them as i do from the moon, like a sort empty machinery type of vibe.. almost like looking at an engine.. a really really big engine..


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Re: do you think the ancients were seeing the same ufos in the sky that we see today? [Re: zZZz]
    #22361744 - 10/11/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I had a similiar experience awhile back star gazing with some friends, we all kept on noticing this one star that was moving around very bizarrely.

For awhile it felt like my gaze was being drawn towards it and I couldn't even look away. Also the longer we stared at it the closer it would appear, on top of zigzagging around it appeared to be moving farther and closer at times. I got a weird telepathy / watcher vibe from it too, was really weird. At one point I felt like I was on the verge of an encounter with an inter dimensional being or something, part of me wanted to try and manifest it but part of me also knew I shouldn't.

I had an interesting theory about light being consciousness though becouse the stars seemed alive to me that night.

Also the nature of light illuminating darkness seems like a perfect metaphor for consciousness, which we still barely understand.


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