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Oh look another school shooting
#22355743 - 10/09/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made a thread a couple days ago titled "predict the next USA shooting " after the oregon incident , turns out there was another shooting in a campus in arizona , 1 dead , 3 wounded this happened yesterday i believe . so when do you guys think the next shooting will take place ? Imho we will see another school shootin within a month. mUrica.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
#22355754 - 10/09/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Saw it on the news this morning.
I could have sworn arizona state already had a shooting a couple years ago
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: JvF]
#22355815 - 10/09/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It wasn't really a school shooting and fun fact the shooter is my friends girlfriends ex-boyfriend.
He was a pledge that got his ass beat by the frat and he grabbed his gun from the car.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko] 1
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Gorlax]
#22355889 - 10/09/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: It wasn't really a school shooting
BUT THEY WERE STUDENTS!!!!
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22355895 - 10/09/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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u trippin dawg
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22355907 - 10/09/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My question to you prisoner is why are there school shootings on a daily basis in america? (in campus) and yet it does not happen in any other country.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
#22355940 - 10/09/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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in some of the bad parts of africa that shit was happening on a daily baisis by the rebels n shit
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22355969 - 10/09/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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here's an image from one of the plays they performed

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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko] 1
#22355990 - 10/09/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kinko said: My question to you prisoner is why are there school shootings on a daily basis in america? (in campus) and yet it does not happen in any other country.
because there are criminals and people arent allowed to defend themselves on school campuses
are obama's kids protected at schools with men that carry a gun?
why are mine not protected by a sign that says 'gun free school zone'
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22355993 - 10/09/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i thought no one can stop the criminals from using guns and being scum of the earth?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
#22356001 - 10/09/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i thought no one can stop the criminals from using guns and being scum of the earth?
so you're saying that the bad guy always gets away?
maybe this is why canada is so fucked up, you keep thinking
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1] 2
#22356005 - 10/09/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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not just criminals though.There are plenty of overall more violent nations out there where school shootings aren't so prevalent. So it's clearly not simply the fact there are 'criminals' but that there are a number of this specific kind of fucktard walking about. That suggests they are a result of something ingrained in the american culture rather than simply a fact of human nature.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22356011 - 10/09/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol in what respect is Canada so fucked up. Our rate of violent crime? Our constant school shootings? Our somewhat functional social programs or our average quality of life?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma] 1
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here's an image from one of the plays they performed


I'm not shitting, the title was called Blacker The Berry
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#22356018 - 10/09/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Touching upon your point, sometimes I feel as though its a self fulling prophecy. The media talks about school shootings non stop, and we treat these kids like fucking criminals.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Ezuma]
#22356022 - 10/09/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: lol in what respect is Canada so fucked up. Our rate of violent crime? Our constant school shootings? Our somewhat functional social programs or our average quality of life?
the constant blaming of the US for your problems with guns and violence
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/14/americas/canada-mass-shooting-plot/
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akira_akuma said: i thought no one can stop the criminals from using guns and being scum of the earth?
so you're saying that the bad guy always gets away?
maybe this is why canada is so fucked up, you keep thinking
was that supposed to be a question?
i dunno. i'm just saying that crime is gonna happen either way, people will get killed EITHER WAY, whether you have protection or not. that's what you've said repeatedly, and on this matter i agree with you.
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here's an image from one of the plays they performed


I'm not shitting, the title was called Blacker The Berry
https://chantellelewis.wordpress.com/tag/creative/
“Some say the blacker the berry the sweeter the juice. I say the darker the flesh, the deeper the roots.”
this does not bode well for the blacker berries.
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the constant blaming of the US for your problems with guns and violence
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/14/americas/canada-mass-shooting-plot/
um, we stop them....we stop the plots from ever unfolding. ever notice that?
just saying...that's a new thing!
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22356039 - 10/09/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: lol in what respect is Canada so fucked up. Our rate of violent crime? Our constant school shootings? Our somewhat functional social programs or our average quality of life?
the constant blaming of the US for your problems with guns and violence
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/14/americas/canada-mass-shooting-plot/
what does that link prove? One attempted shooting, involving a canadian and an american. Canada has gun crime like anywhere else. But not nearly to the level in good ol 'murica. There has to be a reason for that, since the phenomenon of school shootings specifically is most prevalent in the US. why? Other countries have guns.Other countries have criminals. Other countries have schools. What's different in america?That's what I'm curious about.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko] 1
#22356041 - 10/09/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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School shootings get a lot of media attention in the US, so that's probably a big factor in why they are so prevalent. Most of the school shooters are people looking for some sort of recognition.
Do you have stats on hand about school shootings in other countries or are you just making shit up? I know for a fact I've read about a few mass stabbings at Chinese schools, and they're supposed to be tame over there.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
#22356052 - 10/09/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i'm just saying that crime is gonna happen either way, people will get killed EITHER WAY, whether you have protection or not. that's what you've said repeatedly, and on this matter i agree with you.
either way?
if the bad guy is killed then we should be celebrating, if I have a firearm do I not have a better chance of eliminating a threat? if it's some guy on a killing spree such as the one that obama is protecting from the Oregon shooting then wouldnt a gun have saved some of those lives?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22356071 - 10/09/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it happens alot in the US because US students hate their peers and can, frankly speaking, take them out oh so much easier with a gun than with a knife.
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akira_akuma said: i'm just saying that crime is gonna happen either way, people will get killed EITHER WAY, whether you have protection or not. that's what you've said repeatedly, and on this matter i agree with you.
either way?
if the bad guy is killed then we should be celebrating, if I have a firearm do I not have a better chance of eliminating a threat? if it's some guy on a killing spree such as the one that obama is protecting from the Oregon shooting then wouldnt a gun have saved some of those lives?
oh i've vouched for CC laws in my country, Prisoner. you don't really need to try and prove to me the outcome would be better with it; i mean, obviously the criminal element in any instance should be stopped, and if it's the only casualty that instance should be celebratory. i'm just saying that CC laws does not stop crime and casualties and innocent deaths being attributed to cases such as the above in the OP. that's all.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
#22356079 - 10/09/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: School shootings get a lot of media attention in the US, so that's probably a big factor in why they are so prevalent. Most of the school shooters are people looking for some sort of recognition.
I like the way the reaction to a leopard killing a gazelle is to take the horns from the water buffalo
http://nbc.com.co/obama-passes-mass-shooting-bill-media-no-longer-allowed-to-name-mass-shooting-suspect/
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: danielx]
#22356082 - 10/09/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
#22356096 - 10/09/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: it happens alot in the US because US students hate their peers and can, frankly speaking, take them out oh so much easier with a gun than with a knife.
true story.Quote:
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akira_akuma said: i'm just saying that crime is gonna happen either way, people will get killed EITHER WAY, whether you have protection or not. that's what you've said repeatedly, and on this matter i agree with you.
either way?
if the bad guy is killed then we should be celebrating, if I have a firearm do I not have a better chance of eliminating a threat? if it's some guy on a killing spree such as the one that obama is protecting from the Oregon shooting then wouldnt a gun have saved some of those lives?
oh i've vouched for CC laws in my country, Prisoner. you don't really need to try and prove to me the outcome would be better with it; i mean, obviously the criminal element in any instance should be stopped, and if it's the only casualty that instance should be celebratory. i'm just saying that CC laws does not stop crime and casualties and innocent deaths being attributed to cases such as the above in the OP. that's all.
CC laws do a lot to curb crime, that includes shootings, robberies and other violent crimes
will it stop all shootings? of course not but we can look at Chicago as an example since their crime rates have dropped 24%, including their homicide rates
http://www.illinoismirror.com/one-year-after-concealed-carry-chicago-homicide-rate-plunges-to-56-year-low/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
#22356107 - 10/09/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kinko said: DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
I wouldn't expect the number of stabbings to be on par with gun violence. Stabbing is a very personal thing that requires a lot of anger. When you stab someone, the impact of the knife hitting the person usually causes you to also slice up your own hands. With a gun you can just push a button without hurting yourself. Knives are in that respect a lot more gruesome and require more anger.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
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D.M.T said: School shootings get a lot of media attention in the US, so that's probably a big factor in why they are so prevalent. Most of the school shooters are people looking for some sort of recognition.
I like the way the reaction to a leopard killing a gazelle is to take the horns from the water buffalo
http://nbc.com.co/obama-passes-mass-shooting-bill-media-no-longer-allowed-to-name-mass-shooting-suspect/

Some schools here in Ohio are letting teachers bring in firearms now. My computer is going way too slow to Google it myself at the moment.
It iSN'T Easy to get the permission though.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
#22356119 - 10/09/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kinko said: DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that the media pushes their own narrative, why else hasnt the TSU shooting on tuesday been reported all over the national news when it's so close to the Oregon shooting
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
#22356124 - 10/09/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im surprised you folks seem to think you are smart but cannot see whats in front of you. The number one reason for school shootings in the USA is simply indirect association , the killers see someone doing it and suddently it doesnt make them feel so bad anymore since " people are doing it "
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
#22356132 - 10/09/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kinko said: Im surprised you folks seem to think you are smart but cannot see whats in front of you. The number one reason for school shootings in the USA is simply indirect association , the killers see someone doing it and suddently it doesnt make them feel so bad anymore since " people are doing it "
the shootings this week were not copy cat, they were acts of violence by retards that led to a shooting, dickheads fighting isnt the same as someone plotting to shoot up a school, this wasnt that type of planned, directed violence, it was instant, it was a spur of the moment decision on the part of the shooter
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Kinko said: DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that the media pushes their own narrative
He wouldn't know, nor would I, because the Chinese are VERY concerned with what happens in their country getting out to other countries. Usually only the best or absolute worst evenets happening in China makes it into non-Chinese media outlets.
pLus they conveniently "forget' to report shit in their statistics to make themselves look better
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Kinko said: DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that the media pushes their own narrative, why else hasnt the TSU shooting on tuesday been reported all over the national news when it's so close to the Oregon shooting
School shootings do not happen in other countries are you saying other countries cover up school shootings as some sort of conspiracy?????
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
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Some schools here in Ohio are letting teachers bring in firearms now. My computer is going way too slow to Google it myself at the moment.
It iSN'T Easy to get the permission though.
http://fox8.com/2015/07/07/fox-8-exclusive-ohio-teachers-train-to-carry-guns-in-schools/
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Go to liveleak news flows in about the chinese killing each other every day , killing their wifes on the streets while people watch is a norm in china , they love video taping all that stuff for us to enjoy......as far as mass school killings in china???? Lol dude it simply does not happen.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
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With social media its a pretty safe bet we would know of school shootings taking place in other countries....... prisoner is mexicos government corrupted a little bit or alot??? How come the entire world knew about the 41 students?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
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Kinko said: DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that the media pushes their own narrative
He wouldn't know, nor would I, because the Chinese are VERY concerned with what happens in their country getting out to other countries. Usually only the best or absolute worst evenets happening in China makes it into non-Chinese media outlets.
pLus they conveniently "forget' to report shit in their statistics to make themselves look better
Wrong refer to my posts above.
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Kinko said: DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that the media pushes their own narrative, why else hasnt the TSU shooting on tuesday been reported all over the national news when it's so close to the Oregon shooting
School shootings do not happen in other countries are you saying other countries cover up school shootings as some sort of conspiracy?????
bullshit they dont happen, maybe you could at least come up with more plausible lies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnenden_school_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Moscow_school_shooting http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/03/us-russia-shooting-school-idUSBREA120C920140203 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8657475/Norway-killings-The-laughing-gunman-who-shot-85-young-victims-one-by-one.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_and_Montauban_shootings
guess where school shootings dont happen
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-jewish-thinker/.premium-1.679115
except that sometimes they actually do
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercaz_HaRav_massacre
even in peaceful sweden they happen https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1916&dat=20010119&id=tP9IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dQUNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1615,2430211&hl=en
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
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or you simply blind yourself to what's actually happening in the world
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Prisoner#1 said: CC laws do a lot to curb crime, that includes shootings, robberies and other violent crimes
will it stop all shootings? of course not but we can look at Chicago as an example since their crime rates have dropped 24%, including their homicide rates
http://www.illinoismirror.com/one-year-after-concealed-carry-chicago-homicide-rate-plunges-to-56-year-low/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all
my father lives in an area rampant with criminality. everytime i go there i'd say one can feel eyes staring at you always. i've been accosted a few times there by people who have no balls. these people work in groups, see...and really they are just criminals of opportunity. easily truncated by a real threat of violence...or some quick statements of my own superiority, but nevertheless, that way gets these people's attention for future meetings, which they never forget the origins of, so it's dangerous either way. lucky i don't live there or i'd probably will've already had physical altercation.
closed-carry solves these problems with these chumps.
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Prisoner#1 said: CC laws do a lot to curb crime, that includes shootings, robberies and other violent crimes
will it stop all shootings? of course not but we can look at Chicago as an example since their crime rates have dropped 24%, including their homicide rates
http://www.illinoismirror.com/one-year-after-concealed-carry-chicago-homicide-rate-plunges-to-56-year-low/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all
my father lives in an area rampant with criminality. everytime i go there i'd say one can feel eyes staring at you always. i've been accosted a few times there by people who have no balls. these people work in groups, see...and really they are just criminals of opportunity. easily truncated by a real threat of violence...or some quick statements of my own superiority, but nevertheless, that way gets these people's attention for future meetings, which they never forget the origins of, so it's dangerous either way. lucky i don't live there or i'd probably will've already had physical altercation.
closed-carry solves these problems with these chumps.
dead chumps dont victimize others
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Kinko said: Go to liveleak news flows in about the chinese killing each other every day , killing their wifes on the streets while people watch is a norm in china , they love video taping all that stuff for us to enjoy......as far as mass school killings in china???? Lol dude it simply does not happen.
did you say china?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%9312)
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dead chumps dont victimize others
you should write a book! 
that'll go off well with school goers. "don't victimize people, or else you die".
"what!? but...but...i thought i was the victim!"
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you're canadian, you are a victim
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living here, i think i'd know that.
once again Pris, you think you're telling something really coyly, but it's nothing i don't already know. you know how many times something comes up, with/without someone, and i go "yeah...Canada is fucking stupid"?
it's alot.
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Kinko said: Go to liveleak news flows in about the chinese killing each other every day , killing their wifes on the streets while people watch is a norm in china , they love video taping all that stuff for us to enjoy......as far as mass school killings in china???? Lol dude it simply does not happen.
did you say china?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%9312)
With a population of over a billion the only school incidents took place within 2 years 2010-2012 with a total number of dead victims to be around 25.. So we do know these School massacres are recorded and documented.... DMT what do you have to say now?
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i hate being on the fence about something, and with these two points i am constantly trying to reconcile between their objective merits; but with these two points of contention, criminology and victimology, well...; they are very taciturn-like subjects, with very little to give you in way of useful information, because of that they require much of you in the way of questioning and ideas and thoughts; because these are really very new philosophical subjects.
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My point stands , while some criminals do have killed people in schools in other countries its RARE for it to happen . in the USA its RARE for it not to happen... That is the point ive been trying to make.
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Kinko said: Go to liveleak news flows in about the chinese killing each other every day , killing their wifes on the streets while people watch is a norm in china , they love video taping all that stuff for us to enjoy......as far as mass school killings in china???? Lol dude it simply does not happen.
did you say china?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%9312)
With a population of over a billion the only school incidents took place within 2 years 2010-2012 with a total number of dead victims to be around 25.. So we do know these School massacres are recorded and documented.... DMT what do you have to say now?
and you somehow believe that this is everything that's happened in china?
why does the number of dead matter, do you need a larger body count before you see it as a problem? what happened to 'school shootings dont happen in other countries'?
I hate to be the one to inform you, not everything gets reported to the US, not everything goes into the news, not all statistics and reports are accurate
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Kinko said: My point stands , while some criminals do have killed people in schools in other countries its RARE for it to happen . in the USA its RARE for it not to happen... That is the point ive been trying to make.
again, bullshit
as was stated in the first few posts, this one wasnt even a school shooting
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Also prisoner how does it feel to have DMT on the gun control nut jobs ? He said knife Quote:
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Kinko said: DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
I wouldn't expect the number of stabbings to be on par with gun violence. Stabbing is a very personal thing that requires a lot of anger. When you stab someone, the impact of the knife hitting the person usually causes you to also slice up your own hands. With a gun you can just push a button without hurting yourself. Knives are in that respect a lot more gruesome and require more anger.
Im waiting for prisoner to respond to this argument , which i agree 110% ... Not anybody can kill someone with a knife ... But with a gun??? Derp just press a button.
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I wouldn't expect the number of stabbings to be on par with gun violence. Stabbing is a very personal thing that requires a lot of anger. When you stab someone, the impact of the knife hitting the person usually causes you to also slice up your own hands. With a gun you can just push a button without hurting yourself. Knives are in that respect a lot more gruesome and require more anger.
Im waiting for prisoner to respond to this argument , which i agree 110% ... Not anybody can kill someone with a knife ... But with a gun??? Derp just press a button.
why are so many people killed with a knife if "not anybody can kill someone with a knife"?
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you're a victim Prisoner. a victim of the have nots, half monster half robot Frankenstein brought back from the dead type freedom that in the US is propped up by who else? liberals.
MUAHAHAHAHAHA
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
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I am a victim
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i predict that no one is going to come to any conclusion in this thread and peeps will just argue through text over bullshit they know absolutely nothing about, then it'll eventually get locked. u've heard it here first folks.
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Killing with a knife is choosen because its a household item and effective also in poor countries they dont have a better weapon do they? I will tell you tho. Not everybody that can kill with a gun can kill with a knife but anyone who can kill with a knife can surely kill with a gun
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Kinko said: Killing with a knife is choosen because its a household item and effective also in poor countries they dont have a better weapon do they?
so what are you saying, that in countries with guns, knife violence doesnt exist?
are you saying the problem isnt the weapon but the person with the weapon?
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I will tell you tho. Not everybody that can kill with a gun can kill with a knife but anyone who can kill with a knife can surely kill with a gun
once more, bullshit, if it were true, why do so many people survive shooting even when shot by someone that was trained to use a gun such as the police
shot 21 times http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301726/Police-shoot-gunman-21-times---survives.html
shot 28 times http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/man-shot-28-times-police-gives-thanks-after-being-freed
it would appear that you simply have no clue what the hell you're talking about
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I am a victim
we need to study you.

PS: @ kinko. LOL, you really are riding on fumes here.
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Not on fumes just badly worded. It takes a special type of person to perform a knife attack it is much more personal PSHysical and gruesome attack. In countries where guns are legal knife attacks are either to inflict the most suffering/pain possible or simply because a gun could not be aquired at the time. I mean.... I thought this shit was common sense...
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
#22356531 - 10/09/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kinko said: Not on fumes just badly worded. It takes a special type of person to perform a knife attack it is much more personal PSHysical and gruesome attack. In countries where guns are legal knife attacks are either to inflict the most suffering/pain possible or simply because a gun could not be aquired at the time. I mean.... I thought this shit was common sense...
so all the knife attacks that result in death are done by trained professionals? maybe they're done on the wings of angels and the blessing of god
would you like to buy a clue?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
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Kinko said: With social media its a pretty safe bet we would know of school shootings taking place in other countries....... prisoner is mexicos government corrupted a little bit or alot??? How come the entire world knew about the 41 students?
With social media, wouldnt you think there would be photo evidence of the shootings?
again, this is 2015. how the fuck is there not a single picture or grainy cellphone video of the event? ITS A COLLEGE CAMPUS. virtually ALL of those students have camera phones.
i dont trust these 'mass shootings' anymore. i want proof it actually fucking happened. not a bunch of tear-less parents making statements to mass media about gun control
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Kinko said: Go to liveleak news flows in about the chinese killing each other every day , killing their wifes on the streets while people watch is a norm in china , they love video taping all that stuff for us to enjoy......as far as mass school killings in china???? Lol dude it simply does not happen.
did you say china?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%9312)
With a population of over a billion the only school incidents took place within 2 years 2010-2012 with a total number of dead victims to be around 25.. So we do know these School massacres are recorded and documented.... DMT what do you have to say now?
We do not hear about everything that happens in China. The country is very selective about what gets out.
I read about a mass school stabbing there from last year, so you are also incorrect the only ones were from 2012.
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Kinko said: Also prisoner how does it feel to have DMT on the gun control nut jobs ?
Prisoner#1 has seen enough of my posts, I hope, to know the only gun control I support is for Americans to have the option of using them.
I have a concealed carry permit and a pretty nice collection of firearms.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Adolin]
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Gresh said: With social media, wouldnt you think there would be photo evidence of the shootings?
again, this is 2015. how the fuck is there not a single picture or grainy cellphone video of the event? ITS A COLLEGE CAMPUS. virtually ALL of those students have camera phones.
i dont trust these 'mass shootings' anymore. i want proof it actually fucking happened. not a bunch of tear-less parents making statements to mass media about gun control
You could always get to the bottom of this on Facebook by asking the relatives of the "victims" where they're hiding.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
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what? even if i did have a facebook, what makes you think any of the 'victims' families would respond to a random person asking questions?
to believe it, i want to see proof that these shootings happened, not anecdotes from relatives who weren't there. or even anecdotes from people who claimed to be there.
i want a picture. its 2015. everyone has a camera in their pocket.
its absurd to think that nobody would pull out their phone and record an active shooting
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well, perhaps after so many shootings, you know...people get bored of it.
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akira_akuma said: well, perhaps after so many shootings, you know...people get bored of it.
Sure, people get bored with things
but they still whip out their phone cameras when the opportunity to go 'viral' comes, whether its a police tackling a cyclist, a drunk college kid wants some mac & cheese, or a black bear walking on two legs.
IF the mass media is trustworthy, there are WAY more mass shootings than bipedal bear spottings. yet every bipedal bear spotting is recorded on video, and no mass shootings are recorded
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Adolin]
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good point.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
#22356881 - 10/09/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd probably be too busy running or hiding and not trying to bring attention to myself than whipping my camera out to film myself being murdered.
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D.M.T said: I'd probably be too busy running or hiding and not trying to bring attention to myself than whipping my camera out to film myself being murdered.
there are thousands of students on the campus. there would at least be videos of people panicking, or huddled in classrooms. but nope, nothing of the sort
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Adolin]
#22356926 - 10/09/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, it's weird. there is a reason to have suspicion Gresh!
gun-control lobby's are quite prevalent these days.
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that would be quite ironic eh? filming your own murder.
Darwin would be ashamed.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
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There was footage of people being hauled away in stretchers. It seems like it happened to me, but I'm a sheep I guess.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
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D.M.T said: There was footage of people being hauled away in stretchers. It seems like it happened to me, but I'm a sheep I guess.
People? or Bags in the shape of people?
i'd like to see the footage youre talking about
PS. never called you a sheep either, in fact i think youre pretty sharp. im just saying that ive seen no proof of this, or the last major shootings over the past few years(except for that live one a few weeks/month ago)
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Adolin]
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Gresh said: IF the mass media is trustworthy, there are WAY more mass shootings than bipedal bear spottings. yet every bipedal bear spotting is recorded on video, and no mass shootings are recorded
how do you know, have you done a survey of all the black bears in their human pantomime positions?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Gresh said: IF the mass media is trustworthy, there are WAY more mass shootings than bipedal bear spottings. yet every bipedal bear spotting is recorded on video, and no mass shootings are recorded
how do you know, have you done a survey of all the black bears in their human pantomime positions?
Yeah, i have. i'm a bearologist. now stop asking fucking questions.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Adolin]
#22356965 - 10/09/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gresh said: . im just saying that ive seen no proof of this, or the last major shootings over the past few years(except for that live one a few weeks/month ago)
I've never seen zimbabwe
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I've never seen zimbabwe
I have. its pretty visible on Google maps
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Adolin]
#22357036 - 10/09/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it says here the drop in crime is due to the fact police are smudging the numbers lol http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Konyap]
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Konyap]
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Konyap]
#22357090 - 10/09/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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that website
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Adolin]
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Gresh said: . im just saying that ive seen no proof of this, or the last major shootings over the past few years(except for that live one a few weeks/month ago)
I've never seen zimbabwe
I have. its pretty visible on Google maps
then you havent seen zimbabwe, you've seen an image that someone else is telling you is zimbabwe when it could in fact be Rwanda, south africa or even kansas
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Konyap]
#22357311 - 10/10/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: it says here the drop in crime is due to the fact police are smudging the numbers lol http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/
sure, there's always some conspiracy
why are the cops doing such a thing, are they getting bonuses for a low crime rate?
that's why the cops in japan list a large number of homicides as suicides
maybe the chicago cops want more guns in the city so they figure that faking the statistics will encourage people to buy more guns, sounds reasonable right?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22357412 - 10/10/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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seems to me like it's a mini drug corridor and there isn't enough man power to solve every single crime
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Konyap]
#22357534 - 10/10/15 03:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chicago's problem is simply money. The market is huge to make illegal funds and the current political situation can't handle it. I'm actually quite surprised how long Chicago has been able to get away with this. Thing is when places like that do mass hiring for the police more funnel in from illegal crime connections. they are like 2nd to no one for most corruption. LA used to be bad but at least they put a band aide on that.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Adolin]
#22357564 - 10/10/15 03:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whos gonna record someone while there is a active shooter
O hey someone is on a rampage, let me record it on my fona phone!
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: SunnyD]
#22357641 - 10/10/15 04:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It would be interesting to see what it's like inside a shooting rampage.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: abltsandwich]
#22357655 - 10/10/15 04:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You'd be surprised how much shit gets recorded now. Check out prochan and shit and some people will be in life or death situations just trying to get a video.
With school shootings there is always a video because classrooms have cameras (most public).. It's just too horrible to release.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
#22357855 - 10/10/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kinko said: DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way? Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population. In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.
I wouldn't expect the number of stabbings to be on par with gun violence. Stabbing is a very personal thing that requires a lot of anger. When you stab someone, the impact of the knife hitting the person usually causes you to also slice up your own hands. With a gun you can just push a button without hurting yourself. Knives are in that respect a lot more gruesome and require more anger.
The same day as Sandy Hook there was a mass stabbing at a school in china. 22 students were stabbed. None of them died. If someone doesn't have access to a gun and must resort to using a knife then that is a much better outcome. It's much harder to kill someone with a knife.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: koods]
#22357871 - 10/10/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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you know I carry either my 9 or one of my 45's every where I go. yes down here in Fl i am licensed to carry a concealed weapon and I always do. now I am not all that looney when it comes to your average gun-toting american. matter of fact I'd wager I have more control and common sense than most. now, my common sense and self control is no more astounding than the average american's. if we (responsible Americans who understand how guns work and how they are used) all armed up and carried everywhere we went, shit like this would drop so much. sure, if I'm ever in the heat of a moment, I may have to drop one man to save many. or, he may see me drawing on him and blow me away first.
either way, if we had real American Patriots with balls willing to stand up for what is ours and what we care about less of this shit would happen. do you think people would go out mass murdering schools if the said punishment would be to catch the perpetrator alive and slowly break every bone in his body and shoot him in every non-critical spot possible before slowly putting him out of his misery with a blade.
I hate to sound conspiracy theory laden and like a super redneck but we as Americans are very sheepish. learn how to fight and how to defend yourself. I dont wanna sound arrogant but if someone pulled a gun in my vicinity they better shoot and they better have fast reflexes because my draw is fast and true. and I would have no problem putting down a punk who wants to kill mass civilians.
we need more men and women with this ideology. I think our generation has forgotten what America was forged in. British, Colonial, French, Indian, and probably other ethnic groups I cant remember cuz I failed American history. but we started as a group of people willing to fight and kill and defend what was ours. it saddens me when I see on the news that a veteran took what, five shots trying to defend a group from a fucking goon and he gets no white house or media recognition that extends beyond the 15-second side story before we learn all about Donald Trump in a 15-minute tell-all about his campaign and plans.
I love Americans. I love this land I came up on. But I am beginning to question my loyalty to America the way things have been going.
oh and just to add this in (I think im gettin drunk) fuck Syria, fuck the refugees, fuck ISIS. idk where the good Syrian muslims go, idk where the Syrian athiests go, idk where the Syrian Christians go. Just don't send them fucking here. I'm not saying they are bad but fuck look at Syria. why take the chance.
and yet they are coming.
school shooting, politics. oh man those two subjects get me boiling. if George W Bush was still president I would so sign the fuck up for the military right now. I'll be GOD DAMNED if I'm fighting for this regime. I'm losing faith that any regime will be worth supporting in the very, very near future.
grim times we live in folks.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: koods]
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koods said: It's much harder to kill someone with a knife.
so grandmal is supposed to fight off one of your liberal hood rats with a knife even though he'll still be packing his gat, why do you hate people so much you want them to all be victims of the liberal crime wave. I mean wouldnt it be more sensible for the honest, innocent people to be better armed than your friends
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: zSDMF]
#22357957 - 10/10/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Has anyone talked about the armed veteran that didn't act in the Umpqua shooting? If I remember reading correctly, there were actually two or three students carrying concealed weapons on campus that day, but they didn't act because they thought they could be mistaken for the shooter. So, are we past the point of no return when it comes to American gun violence? Does our school shooting issue even have a solution?
I'm fully in support of gun ownership, but I've reached the conclusion that no extra help or harm comes from it in public shooting settings. Home defense, f'sho. As a deterrent, maybe.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: r.lutece] 1
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well bro I have never served in the Armed Services and I can tell you I have been through a lot in my life and I've lost a ton in the last 2 years. The people in the general High Springs, FL area, as long as I'm in the group when a goon tries to go nuts, I will either exterminate the murdering savage or get exterminated in the process of.
I mean I just look around. I watch Liveleak every day on Syria and the Ukraine. every day there is more brutality. yeah yeah yeah Russia "has ISIS on the ropes" but none of us civilian goons know the end game. I don't know what the right cause is to join and fight for but what I do know is that it is IMPERATIVE as American Citizens, military-aged males and females, to learn how to operate firearms, knives, blades, and swords and at least have a solid hand-to-hand defensive combat repertoire at said person's disposal, if not a grip of offensive hand-to-hand techniques.
We may never deal with anything but drugged out idiots (US civilians at that) killing a few school kids for the rest of our days. Hell Britain was the only country thus far to invade us on a massive scale but when you start splitting hairs at the time they drug their red coated asses stateside we (Colonial Americans) were still subjects of the King.
All that said every part of the world is either in turmoil or allied with parts of the world that are in turmoil. Times are getting tough. It's time everyone else gets fucking tough. I genuinely feel sorry for the sheep who... well, scratch sheep. the people who think I'm an idiot.
I have been trying to convince myself that I was an idiot for my entire life and up until recently with Syria, ISIS, Obama and his man-wife, and the Illuminati becoming some stupid joke 5 years ago to confirmed and totally fucked-up fact.... yeah, recently I realized I ain't an idiot. All that shit my dad used to say that I thought was just mean or paranoid or overly aggressive, its coming to fruition.
I feel sorry for any citizen that doesn't have enough shit paper to keep a clean butt hole and canned foods to last a year. Just like Sandy Hook was probably an inside job to further control gun laws in certain parts and practically abolish them in others.
But yeah let college kids carry guns without concealed permits if they want to. If schools did this, at least around here, well over 80% of people I be in school with if I was to go back to college would carry at LEAST a 9 or 45. Now I come from the land of cow fields and corn rows and tobacco fields. So we all know what a pistol, shotgun, knife, etc is. So if 80% of a school carried guns, and out of that 80% they all knew how to use it.... well lets just say one guy with a gun ended up a bad apple.
that means 8 people out of ten are armed. no matter how he draws or where he points someone will have a very clear shot.
this is the debate everyone always brings up and its true. i mean say I lived in one of those states where the 2nd amendment right IS your right to carry your concealed guns. well speaking for me I KNOW im packing. probably more than one. if I go into a Wal Mart with oh 75-100 custies. I'll assume oh 60-70% of them are carrying like I said one bad apple wants to go nuts, its over.
all these retarded ass gun laws, shit like felons can't get guns, all these tight ass restrictions in places like NYC... it just leaves the regular people vulnerable. we should ALL be educated on proper firearm procedure and we should all BE ARMED.
im sorry if you disagree with me I dont think you can be right
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: zSDMF]
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Does anybody know why it's always these really sketchy loser basement dwellers that go on shooting sprees?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Turtletotem]
#22358173 - 10/10/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The sit in front of the computer all day watching videos on Liveleak
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: r.lutece]
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r.lutece said: Has anyone talked about the armed veteran that didn't act in the Umpqua shooting? If I remember reading correctly, there were actually two or three students carrying concealed weapons on campus that day, but they didn't act because they thought they could be mistaken for the shooter. So, are we past the point of no return when it comes to American gun violence? Does our school shooting issue even have a solution?
I'm fully in support of gun ownership, but I've reached the conclusion that no extra help or harm comes from it in public shooting settings. Home defense, f'sho. As a deterrent, maybe.
why arent we talking about those that tried to act but were prevented from doing so because the teachers locked the doors, hence the term 'lock down'. what about the veteran that was shot several times when he tried to prevent the gunman from entering he was unarmed but he was actually there... think things would have been different if he were in fact armed?
why dont we talk about how this black kid wasnt locked away long before this event
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: koods]
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koods said: The sit in front of the computer all day watching videos on Liveleak
I only get more lazy when I'm sitting on my ass all day.  Has anybody ever done research on this?
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
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so grandmal is supposed to fight off one of your liberal hood rats with a knife even though he'll still be packing his gat, why do you hate people so much you want them to all be victims of the liberal crime wave. I mean wouldnt it be more sensible for the honest, innocent people to be better armed than your friends
Grandma will end up shooting her self or getting stabbed when the guy just wanted her purse. Or she'll end up shooting her grandkids or getting shot by the police when she gets confused when they start yelling at her.
Today in Israel a cop was shot by his partner after they tried to shoot a guy with a knife.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: koods]
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You know, I grew up in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere. My k-12 school had just over 400 students. Hunting was and is a big deal around there. Hunter's safety class is offered after school every year in late September or early October. When I was in elementary school in the 90s, school was automatically closed on opening day of hunting season because attendance would be so low anyway.
I can also remember older kids bringing hunting rifles to school if they planned on hunting with friends after school and it was no big deal. Guns simply had to be unloaded and either locked in a student's vehicle or if they rode the bus, a room in the office served as gun storage and was locked until after school when they would check their weapons out on their way home after the bell rang.
Most of us had guns in the house. Most of us were taught how to handle and shoot them properly at an early age. Shit until after Columbine WE COULD TAKE GUNS TO SCHOOL.
Guess how many shootings have happened there?
Not one.
I am pretty liberal on most things but I don't think GUNS really are the issue here. I would speculate the large number of antidepressants being prescribed to adolescents is playing a part in the violence we are seeing in our schools. Antidepressants can in some cases cause and increase in suicidal and homicidal ideation.
I actually had a friend stop taking Zoloft because while he was on it, he began thinking about going to work and opening fire on his coworkers. He knew exactly what he would do and how he would do it, which was very alarming as this was terrifyingly out of character for him.
Maybe instead of looking at a shooter's access to firearms we should investigate how many of these perpetrators were on antidepressants.
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something like 10million or so people go to school if you think handing out handguns to people is going to make life safer you have another thing coming 8 people died 'imagine how many more would die with access to a suicide kit or die from a stray bullet or shooting someone at a party/bar
i've gotten my ass kicked before that kind of thing happens when you get too close to strangers or you stay in the wrong place too long, it has nothing to do with age and skin color go live in the ghetto if you want to live in a urban area that packs heat and see how fun it is there cough up the loot or cough up my money/wedding ring lol
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http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Articles/Harvard-University-Study-Reveals-Astonishing-Link.aspx?p=1
According to a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity.
In other words, more firearms, less crime, concludes the virtually unpublicized research report by attorney Don B. Kates and Dr. Gary Mauser. But the key is firearms in the hands of private citizens.
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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: something like 10million or so people go to school if you think handing out handguns to people is going to make life safer you have another thing coming 8 people died 'imagine how many more would die with access to a suicide kit or die from a stray bullet or shooting someone at a party/bar
i've gotten my ass kicked before that kind of thing happens when you get too close to strangers or you stay in the wrong place too long, it has nothing to do with age and skin color go live in the ghetto if you want to live in a urban area that packs heat and see how fun it is there cough up the loot or cough up my money/wedding ring lol
handing out guns... fuck that, let the deadbeats buy their own guns
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I have a mental illness please take my weed and guns away
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Konyap said: something like 10million or so people go to school if you think handing out handguns to people is going to make life safer you have another thing coming 8 people died 'imagine how many more would die with access to a suicide kit or die from a stray bullet or shooting someone at a party/bar
i've gotten my ass kicked before that kind of thing happens when you get too close to strangers or you stay in the wrong place too long, it has nothing to do with age and skin color go live in the ghetto if you want to live in a urban area that packs heat and see how fun it is there cough up the loot or cough up my money/wedding ring lol
Please tell me where I suggested handing out handguns and please tell me where I said anything about age and race in my post. Unless you just replied to me because it was easier than going back to reply to someone who did actually say these things?
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