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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22356052 - 10/09/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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i'm just saying that crime is gonna happen either way, people will get killed EITHER WAY, whether you have protection or not. :shrug: that's what you've said repeatedly, and on this matter i agree with you.





either way?

if the bad guy is killed then we should be celebrating, if I have a firearm do I
not have a better chance of eliminating a threat? if it's some guy on a killing
spree such as the one that obama is protecting from the Oregon shooting then
wouldnt a gun have saved some of those lives?


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22356071 - 10/09/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it happens alot in the US because US students hate their peers and can, frankly speaking, take them out oh so much easier with a gun than with a knife.

true story.
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akira_akuma said:
i'm just saying that crime is gonna happen either way, people will get killed EITHER WAY, whether you have protection or not. :shrug: that's what you've said repeatedly, and on this matter i agree with you.





either way?

if the bad guy is killed then we should be celebrating, if I have a firearm do I
not have a better chance of eliminating a threat? if it's some guy on a killing
spree such as the one that obama is protecting from the Oregon shooting then
wouldnt a gun have saved some of those lives?



oh i've vouched for CC laws in my country, Prisoner. you don't really need to try and prove to me the outcome would be better with it; i mean, obviously the criminal element in any instance should be stopped, and if it's the only casualty that instance should be celebratory. i'm just saying that CC laws does not stop crime and casualties and innocent deaths being attributed to cases such as the above in the OP. that's all.


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
    #22356079 - 10/09/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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School shootings get a lot of media attention in the US, so that's probably a big factor in why they are so prevalent. Most of the school shooters are people looking for some sort of recognition.





I like the way the reaction to a leopard killing a gazelle is to take the horns from the water buffalo

http://nbc.com.co/obama-passes-mass-shooting-bill-media-no-longer-allowed-to-name-mass-shooting-suspect/



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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: danielx]
    #22356082 - 10/09/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way?    Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population.  In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22356096 - 10/09/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
it happens alot in the US because US students hate their peers and can, frankly speaking, take them out oh so much easier with a gun than with a knife.

true story.
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Prisoner#1 said:
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akira_akuma said:
i'm just saying that crime is gonna happen either way, people will get killed EITHER WAY, whether you have protection or not. :shrug: that's what you've said repeatedly, and on this matter i agree with you.





either way?

if the bad guy is killed then we should be celebrating, if I have a firearm do I
not have a better chance of eliminating a threat? if it's some guy on a killing
spree such as the one that obama is protecting from the Oregon shooting then
wouldnt a gun have saved some of those lives?



oh i've vouched for CC laws in my country, Prisoner. you don't really need to try and prove to me the outcome would be better with it; i mean, obviously the criminal element in any instance should be stopped, and if it's the only casualty that instance should be celebratory. i'm just saying that CC laws does not stop crime and casualties and innocent deaths being attributed to cases such as the above in the OP. that's all.





CC laws do a lot to curb crime, that includes shootings, robberies and other violent crimes

will it stop all shootings? of course not but we can look at Chicago as an example
since their crime rates have dropped 24%, including their homicide rates

http://www.illinoismirror.com/one-year-after-concealed-carry-chicago-homicide-rate-plunges-to-56-year-low/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
    #22356107 - 10/09/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way?    Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population.  In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.



I wouldn't expect the number of stabbings to be on par with gun violence. Stabbing is a very personal thing that requires a lot of anger. When you stab someone, the impact of the knife hitting the person usually causes you to also slice up your own hands. With a gun you can just push a button without hurting yourself. Knives are in that respect a lot more gruesome and require more anger.


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22356118 - 10/09/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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D.M.T said:
School shootings get a lot of media attention in the US, so that's probably a big factor in why they are so prevalent. Most of the school shooters are people looking for some sort of recognition.





I like the way the reaction to a leopard killing a gazelle is to take the horns from the water buffalo

http://nbc.com.co/obama-passes-mass-shooting-bill-media-no-longer-allowed-to-name-mass-shooting-suspect/





Some schools here in Ohio are letting teachers bring in firearms now. My computer is going way too slow to Google it myself at the moment.

It iSN'T Easy to get the permission though.


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
    #22356119 - 10/09/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinko said:
DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way?    Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population.  In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.





how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the
news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that
the media pushes their own narrative, why else hasnt the TSU shooting on tuesday
been reported all over the national news when it's so close to the Oregon shooting


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
    #22356124 - 10/09/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Im surprised you folks seem to think you are smart but cannot see whats in front of you.    The number one reason for school shootings in the USA is simply indirect association , the killers see someone doing it and suddently it doesnt make them feel so bad anymore since " people are doing it "


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
    #22356132 - 10/09/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinko said:
Im surprised you folks seem to think you are smart but cannot see whats in front of you.    The number one reason for school shootings in the USA is simply indirect association , the killers see someone doing it and suddently it doesnt make them feel so bad anymore since " people are doing it "





the shootings this week were not copy cat, they were acts of violence by retards
that led to a shooting, dickheads fighting isnt the same as someone plotting to
shoot up a school, this wasnt that type of planned, directed violence, it was
instant, it was a spur of the moment decision on the part of the shooter


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22356138 - 10/09/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinko said:
DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way?    Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population.  In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.





how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the
news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that
the media pushes their own narrative



He wouldn't know, nor would I, because the Chinese are VERY concerned with what happens in their country getting out to other countries. Usually only the best or absolute worst evenets happening in China makes it into non-Chinese media outlets.

pLus they conveniently "forget' to report shit in their statistics to make themselves look better


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22356139 - 10/09/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinko said:
DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way?    Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population.  In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.





how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the
news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that
the media pushes their own narrative, why else hasnt the TSU shooting on tuesday
been reported all over the national news when it's so close to the Oregon shooting



School shootings do not happen in other countries are you saying other countries cover up school shootings as some sort of conspiracy?????


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
    #22356149 - 10/09/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Some schools here in Ohio are letting teachers bring in firearms now. My computer is going way too slow to Google it myself at the moment.

It iSN'T Easy to get the permission though.





http://fox8.com/2015/07/07/fox-8-exclusive-ohio-teachers-train-to-carry-guns-in-schools/


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
    #22356152 - 10/09/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Go to liveleak news flows in about the chinese killing each other every day , killing their wifes on the streets while people watch is a norm in china , they love video taping all that stuff for us to enjoy......as far as mass school killings in china???? Lol dude it simply does not happen.


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
    #22356157 - 10/09/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

With social media its a pretty safe bet we would know of school shootings taking place in other countries....... prisoner is mexicos government corrupted a little bit or alot??? How come the entire world knew about the 41 students?


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: D.M.T]
    #22356160 - 10/09/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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D.M.T said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Kinko said:
DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way?    Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population.  In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.





how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the
news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that
the media pushes their own narrative



He wouldn't know, nor would I, because the Chinese are VERY concerned with what happens in their country getting out to other countries. Usually only the best or absolute worst evenets happening in China makes it into non-Chinese media outlets.

pLus they conveniently "forget' to report shit in their statistics to make themselves look better



Wrong refer to my posts above.


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
    #22356189 - 10/09/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinko said:
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Kinko said:
DMT you are a smart guy .. Is pride getting in the way?    Theres 1 billion chinese folk out there and while "stabbings" have occured in schools it should be shocking it does not happen more often hence their population.  In the USA with just over 300 million it happens on a regular basis , everyday almost.





how do you know it doesnt happen more often, is it because it's not reported in the
news? maybe it's not, maybe it's not reported where we hear of it, I do know that
the media pushes their own narrative, why else hasnt the TSU shooting on tuesday
been reported all over the national news when it's so close to the Oregon shooting



School shootings do not happen in other countries are you saying other countries cover up school shootings as some sort of conspiracy?????





bullshit they dont happen, maybe you could at least come up with more plausible lies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnenden_school_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Moscow_school_shooting
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/03/us-russia-shooting-school-idUSBREA120C920140203
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8657475/Norway-killings-The-laughing-gunman-who-shot-85-young-victims-one-by-one.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_and_Montauban_shootings


guess where school shootings dont happen

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-jewish-thinker/.premium-1.679115

except that sometimes they actually do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercaz_HaRav_massacre

even in peaceful sweden they happen
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1916&dat=20010119&id=tP9IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dQUNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1615,2430211&hl=en


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Kinko]
    #22356192 - 10/09/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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With social media its a pretty safe bet we would know of school shootings taking place in other countries....... prisoner is mexicos government corrupted a little bit or alot??? How come the entire world knew about the 41 students?





or you simply blind yourself to what's actually happening in the world


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22356201 - 10/09/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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CC laws do a lot to curb crime, that includes shootings, robberies and other violent crimes

will it stop all shootings? of course not but we can look at Chicago as an example
since their crime rates have dropped 24%, including their homicide rates

http://www.illinoismirror.com/one-year-after-concealed-carry-chicago-homicide-rate-plunges-to-56-year-low/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all




my father lives in an area rampant with criminality. everytime i go there i'd say one can feel eyes staring at you always. i've been accosted a few times there by people who have no balls. these people work in groups, see...and really they are just criminals of opportunity. easily truncated by a real threat of violence...or some quick statements of my own superiority, but nevertheless, that way gets these people's attention for future meetings, which they never forget the origins of, so it's dangerous either way. lucky i don't live there or i'd probably will've already had physical altercation.

closed-carry solves these problems with these chumps.


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Re: Oh look another school shooting [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22356206 - 10/09/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
CC laws do a lot to curb crime, that includes shootings, robberies and other violent crimes

will it stop all shootings? of course not but we can look at Chicago as an example
since their crime rates have dropped 24%, including their homicide rates

http://www.illinoismirror.com/one-year-after-concealed-carry-chicago-homicide-rate-plunges-to-56-year-low/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all




my father lives in an area rampant with criminality. everytime i go there i'd say one can feel eyes staring at you always. i've been accosted a few times there by people who have no balls. these people work in groups, see...and really they are just criminals of opportunity. easily truncated by a real threat of violence...or some quick statements of my own superiority, but nevertheless, that way gets these people's attention for future meetings, which they never forget the origins of, so it's dangerous either way. lucky i don't live there or i'd probably will've already had physical altercation.

closed-carry solves these problems with these chumps.





dead chumps dont victimize others


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