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Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night?
    #22355016 - 10/09/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ok this is something that I wanted to get around and ask


Whenever I trip on LSD I can see a mega load of stars compared to other times when I am not tripping on LSD?


I tend to watch the stars a lot in my spare time, but every time I trip and view the skies I see about 100 times what I normally see.


anyone else find the same thing?:shrug:


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: Vitalux]
    #22355061 - 10/09/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You can't. It's your perception. LSD doesn't actually cause halicnonations, it restricts optical nerves from functioning correctly and affects timing of neuron responses. What you see are essentially other objects but you're unable to place their location. This all happens so fast that your mind finishes figuring out where they're at before you realize it's happening. Hence, halucinations.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22355212 - 10/09/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would say its because LSD dilates your pupils and allows more light to reach your eye. Also, when tripping you might pay more attention to the sky whereas when sober your mind is often employed after more practical matters than star gazing.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22355591 - 10/09/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You can't. It's your perception. LSD doesn't actually cause halicnonations, it restricts optical nerves from functioning correctly and affects timing of neuron responses. What you see are essentially other objects but you're unable to place their location. This all happens so fast that your mind finishes figuring out where they're at before you realize it's happening. Hence, halucinations.



LSD doesn't cause hallucinations :lol: yea right man. Have you ever ate a hefty dose of LSD? Or LSD at all for that matter?


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: Vitalux]
    #22355732 - 10/09/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I get the same thing, and they change color like they're pinpricks in the sky with different colored lights being shone through them. LSD seems to allow you to focus on every point in your vision at the same time. I don't know how it works, but it pretty awesome.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22355778 - 10/09/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You can't. It's your perception. LSD doesn't actually cause halicnonations, it restricts optical nerves from functioning correctly and affects timing of neuron responses. What you see are essentially other objects but you're unable to place their location. This all happens so fast that your mind finishes figuring out where they're at before you realize it's happening. Hence, halucinations.




Please post a source for this statement, I'd love to read the paper that proves this conclusively.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: SynKyd]
    #22355790 - 10/09/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You don't need a research paper to conclude the obvious. LSD produces no visuals.


The visuals are produced via the effect of the LSD on the brain.


I was merely commenting on how the OP asked why he can see MORE stars at night. The same amount of stars are there the entire time.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22355817 - 10/09/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You don't need a research paper to conclude the obvious. LSD produces no visuals.


The visuals are produced via the effect of the LSD on the brain.


I was merely commenting on how the OP asked why he can see MORE stars at night. The same amount of stars are there the entire time.




Huh, so your statement about neurons and timing was based on what then? Your own LSD experience?


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: SynKyd]
    #22355861 - 10/09/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How the brain works?


What do you think happens? LSD creates a light show inside of your brain and starts dancing around in front of your eye lids?


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22355965 - 10/09/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You don't need a research paper to conclude the obvious. LSD produces no visuals.


The visuals are produced via the effect of the LSD on the brain.


I was merely commenting on how the OP asked why he can see MORE stars at night. The same amount of stars are there the entire time.




Of course the same amount of stars are there but anyone who has looked up at the sky more than once or twice in his life would have noted that at times more stars are visible than other times. Go to the country, see a ton of stars. Go to New York City, struggle to see a few.

It is known that psychedelics enhance the senses, including vision and dilate the pupils, thus it would make sense that you would notice more stars while tripping.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22355997 - 10/09/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How the brain works?


What do you think happens? LSD creates a light show inside of your brain and starts dancing around in front of your eye lids?




I didn't make any statement about how LSD works, buddy, and I'm not arguing any counterpoint because I don't have one. In the interest of understanding your statement better, I was asking you to help me understand how you came to this conclusion:

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You can't. It's your perception. LSD doesn't actually cause halicnonations, it restricts optical nerves from functioning correctly and affects timing of neuron responses. What you see are essentially other objects but you're unable to place their location. This all happens so fast that your mind finishes figuring out where they're at before you realize it's happening. Hence, halucinations.





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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: SynKyd] * 3
    #22356016 - 10/09/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

mr euphenism is crazy

that's like saying

"Dude, weed doesn't get you high. It just stimulates your cannabanoid receptors which causes your brain to function differently."


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: Sheekle] * 5
    #22356027 - 10/09/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yeah and cyanide doesn't kill you, it just causes your body to stop functioning permanently.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
    #22356032 - 10/09/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

:uhoh:


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22356115 - 10/09/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Lol, if you read the OP's post it clearly states that he is under the specific belief that LSD helps him see more stars. I was merely pointing out that it doesn't. It just creates new stars and duplicates of stars considering your perception and inability to completely focus. Plus, the displayed pupils.


More so, weed actually doesn't get you high. It's the THC inside of it that affects your brain. So, you're exactly right:). BUT, if you said something like "marijuana causes me to hallucinate and see objects move" I'd say, you're wrong. It's your body chemistry.

Hence, why the same drug affects people differently? Just think about it and you'll realize it makes perfect sense.


And technically, no. A tree falling in the woods does not make sound. The definition of sound is audible perception by the human ear.


While there is audible noise created by a tree falling in the woods, it does not ever make a sound until it is heard :smile:


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22356134 - 10/09/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And cyanide does kill you.... It's a poison.


Logic lesson: does not breathing kill you, or is it the result of your blood not oxidizing properly?


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22356321 - 10/09/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Lol, if you read the OP's post it clearly states that he is under the specific belief that LSD helps him see more stars. I was merely pointing out that it doesn't. It just creates new stars and duplicates of stars considering your perception and inability to completely focus. Plus, the displayed pupils.


More so, weed actually doesn't get you high. It's the THC inside of it that affects your brain. So, you're exactly right:). BUT, if you said something like "marijuana causes me to hallucinate and see objects move" I'd say, you're wrong. It's your body chemistry.

Hence, why the same drug affects people differently? Just think about it and you'll realize it makes perfect sense.


And technically, no. A tree falling in the woods does not make sound. The definition of sound is audible perception by the human ear.


While there is audible noise created by a tree falling in the woods, it does not ever make a sound until it is heard :smile:




In physics, sound is a vibration that propagates as a typically audible mechanical wave of pressure and displacement, through a medium such as air or water. In physiology and psychology, sound is the reception of such waves and their perception by the brain.

Physics says otherwise.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: DurgaDurg]
    #22356348 - 10/09/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Be careful of your use of the word "sound" as opposed to your mentioning of an audible wave. They are not one in the same and the term "sound" gets thrown around a lot by physicists. They're not psychologists so it's no wonder.


In the realms of science, I agree with you. But in the realm of psychology and philosophy I have to respectfully disagree and again argue that specifically sound, is only technically audible when perceived by the human ear.


And in a different note, I do agree that relativity is a damned thing.


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22356362 - 10/09/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

One cannot exist without the other.:philososloth:


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Re: Whys is it that when I take LSD I can see way more stars at night? [Re: DurgaDurg]
    #22356368 - 10/09/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You're exactly right, and you've left me with no argument.


I really hate quantum possibilities :undecided:.


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