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What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? * 3
    #22353133 - 10/09/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've been a huge fan of Bill Hicks for a while now, and in the last few years I've watched full shows of Sane Man, Relentless, and Revelations on youtube which were posted by many people over the last many years.  I just went back to watch one of them yesterday, and none of them are there anymore.  What IS there are short clips from those shows under the channel name "Bill Hicks", and each short clip starts with a big advertisement for "Comedy Dynamics".  Comedy Dynamics says they're a huge storehouse for all comedy.  This seems strange to me.  I don't think that Comedy Dynamics is owned by the Hicks family, and that they are trying to copyright everything and make people take it down, so what's going on??  Another strange thing is that "comedy dynamics" thru the channel "Bill Hicks" has suddenly released TONS of short clips of rare Bill material which was never available before.  Do you think this company went to his family and convinced them to claim copyright laws in exchange for money and some more of his rare material which was never released? 

There are a couple of people who have posted the shows I'm talking about in the last week, but they have posted them so the audio track is slowed down a little bit, and the color is off.....

It seems either someone or some company is making people take down Bill's full shows.

This is insane, another messenger being chopped down!!!

Anyone know whats up with this, or whose doing this?


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople] * 1
    #22353143 - 10/09/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353156 - 10/09/15 03:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Most likely, his heirs sold the rights.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353157 - 10/09/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Presumably whoever now owns his material got legally serious about it. It seems pretty easy to get stuff stripped off Youtube as long as you have a solid legal team. Nintendo went ape shit since they released Mario Maker and almost every single video of levels made with unofficial editors has been taken down.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22353161 - 10/09/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22353164 - 10/09/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22353167 - 10/09/15 03:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's a genuinely good song. Who would have thought?


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22353169 - 10/09/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well I found them available in full on Hulu, but comedy dynamics still pops up at the beginning, and you have numerous commercials throughout.....

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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22353172 - 10/09/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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That's a genuinely good song. Who would have thought?




Bill was an awesome musician, great at guitar....

Rant in A Minor has amazing music.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353174 - 10/09/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353175 - 10/09/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's not greed, greed would be not letting the public view them at all. Just plain ol' basic ads on a video.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22353191 - 10/09/15 04:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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That's not greed, greed would be not letting the public view them at all. Just plain ol' basic ads on a video.




I'm talking about the desire to make money in any way possible......It's just sad and ironic, since Bill hated the idea of shopping malls, marketing and marketers, and would joke that Earth is "the third shopping mall from the sun".


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353197 - 10/09/15 04:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm a total Bill Hicks fan, I know all his material, however we are getting to a point with media where the best way to make money off of it are ads. I'm totally pro-advertisment. Those videos also cost someone money to host them, so there is that.

I think Bill Hicks died way too young. It only took me a year or two to get completely bored by hicks because he has such a small catalogue of work because of his unfortunate death. Doug Stanhope is as good as Bill Hicks, imo.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22353199 - 10/09/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Bill Burr kills it too.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22353201 - 10/09/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What "total" fan would justify putting money behind his material, then say you got completely bored with him, then say Stanhope is just as good.

lol, you ain't no Hicks fan.....


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353207 - 10/09/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What "total" fan would justify putting money behind his material, then say you got completely bored with him, then say Stanhope is just as good.

lol, you ain't no Hicks fan.....




Dude, I'm 31 years old, started listening to Hicks when I was about 20. He has a finite amount of material, sorry. Maybe you like playing stuff on repeat but I don't. Every joke he has made I heard 100 times. I'm just bored by it at this point. When I need a good laugh, it can't be something I heard 1000 times. I kind of think its weird that people can laugh at the same joke 100 times. Doesn't mean I'm not a fan or thinks he does shitty work. Stanhope is absolutely just as good, and reminds me how Hicks might have progressed had he stayed alive.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22353210 - 10/09/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What "total" fan would justify putting money behind his material, then say you got completely bored with him, then say Stanhope is just as good.

lol, you ain't no Hicks fan.....




Dude, I'm 31 years old, started listening to Hicks when I was about 20. He has a finite amount of material, sorry. Maybe you like playing stuff on repeat but I don't. Every joke he has made I heard 100 times. I'm just bored by it at this point. When I need a good laugh, it can't be something I heard 1000 times. I kind of think its weird that people can laugh at the same joke 100 times. Doesn't mean I'm not a fan or thinks he does shitty work. Stanhope is absolutely just as good, and reminds me how Hicks might have progressed had he stayed alive.




Well if you've heard every joke 100 times, then obviously you DO like playing stuff on repeat....but you just said you don't, so which is it?  You do or don't like playing stuff on repeat?

Now I can't take you seriously.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353214 - 10/09/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There's no limit for you?
So to be a fan means anytime his material comes on I have to enjoy it?
I have to act like I never heard it before? What do you want? At least I have guidelines when to move on, which usually involves absorbing it til I feel satisfied, which after 11 years I do. I get it, you don't feel like you adequately absorbed all his stuff and have not found the need to move on.

Keep in mind the numerous time I have heard Bill Hicks doesn't account for ME playing him. Could be friends, videos online people show me, etc.

When are YOU done with material? When do YOU move on?
Like I said, after 11 years of appreciating him I mostly moved on.
There's a universe of comedy out there and being stuck on one dead comic with finite material 11 years after I discovered sounds depressing to me.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22353226 - 10/09/15 04:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So you "appreciated" him and enjoyed him for 11 years, then moved on...... But earlier you said you got completely bored of him after only 2 years.....

You make no fucking sense at all, lol.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353231 - 10/09/15 05:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Answer my questions, please.

Dude, I'm being very liberal with time frames, it is kind of obvious, but the time frames only serve as a point to let you know how long I've exposed myself to his material, whether it be me or somewhere else.
I don't expect myself or anyone else to remember exact times during transitions. When or how long I got bored of Bill Hicks is actually irrelevant to this whole discussion, the fact is I've absorbed his material to a satisfactory degree over 11 years and I have moved on. This is the most potent point.


So do you feel you have not absorbed his material, so you have to keep coming back to it? When you read a book, do you reread over and over until you can recite it paragraph by paragraph?


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22353242 - 10/09/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dude I get what you mean, I was just pointing out your contradictions.  I don't watch nearly as much Hicks as I used to when I first discovered him years ago.  There I said it.

But as a fan, I'm not gonna go saying I got "completely bored" and then out of nowhere bring in a another comic saying "he's just as good".

What kind of fan says something like that?

Would you say that to Hicks face?


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353255 - 10/09/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, boredom from something can only happen when there is a finite amount of it, so your hypothetical question doesn't make sense. If I could say it to his face, he would still be doing stand up so no, I wouldn't be bored of him because I'd be listening to his new stuff. If I could say it to his dead face, he'd probably agree with me because, you know, I heard it all before a bunch of times. Lenny Bruce was a big inspiration to Bill but I doubt Bill played Lenny Bruce on repeat--Bill was as much into the new comics as he was the older ones.

As an artist myself, I'll occasionally refer back to my inspirations but once in a blue moon. I'll occasionally refer back to Hicks for something but this is more for an academic approach than wanting to relax and entertain myself.

In my opinion, being bored of hicks is a testament to how much I was into him. Think of it is as an honor. I think he was brilliant, ahead of his time, but I'm also bored of it at this point. Praise and boredom are not conflicting beliefs. It is a complex emotion but a completely logical one.

As far as art goes, comedy actually has the shortest lifespan for me.
Music has the longest life span. I have literally been listening to some songs for 16 years that I am not bored of. And you might find that insane.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22353272 - 10/09/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm....I'm kinda starting to maybe sorta somewhat almost possibly think your telling the truth, and that you really are a Hicks fan, and that your not secretly Doug Stanhope.

You need to redeem yourself a little more after those first harsh words though....

Let's hear how much you love Bill...cmon let it out.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353282 - 10/09/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Here, I'll give you this,
when I first discovered Hicks I went to the store and bought a DVD and two albums all at the same time (thinking I just made out with like 3 hours of comedy) and was pissed because he had so little material that some of the same bits ended up as repeats across all three purchases. That's how soon this guy died. WAY too soon. When I get into something, I get INTO it it fanatically, then when I feel I milked it I put it down.

However, PFFR, (creators of Wonder Showzen, Xavier: Renegade Angel, The Heartshe Holler, and The Final Flesh) are my personal comedy gods. Wonder Showzen may be the most influential piece of art to me, period, except for the Beatles. I consider Wonder Showzen fine art in the same realms as Mark Twain, humor works like Confederacy of Dunces and any majorly revered comic.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22353294 - 10/09/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't forget Mystery Science Theater 3000


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353302 - 10/09/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Actually that is one of my majors,
but I didn't want to turn my post into a who inspired me post
but yeah MST3k was a huge influence.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #22353345 - 10/09/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They just put out the Bill Hicks Complete Collection boxed set, with all of his shows, CDs, etc.  His brother probably had those shows taken down from YouTube. 
















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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22354437 - 10/09/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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reminds me how Hicks might have progressed had he stayed alive.




Dude Hick's wouldn't have become that apathetic. Stanhope is great and all but I feel like he has no zest for life.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22354586 - 10/09/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

doug stanhope is funnier than bill hicks.

they both touch on some pretty serious topics but bill hicks was way too serious about his shtick and it made him unhappy. doug stanhope takes it the opposite way and doesn't give a fuck about anything

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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22354675 - 10/09/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm a total Bill Hicks fan, I know all his material, however we are getting to a point with media where the best way to make money off of it are ads. I'm totally pro-advertisment. Those videos also cost someone money to host them, so there is that.

I think Bill Hicks died way too young. It only took me a year or two to get completely bored by hicks because he has such a small catalogue of work because of his unfortunate death. Doug Stanhope is as good as Bill Hicks, imo.





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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22355189 - 10/09/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think Bill Hicks died way too young. It only took me a year or two to get completely bored by hicks because he has such a small catalogue of work because of his unfortunate death. Doug Stanhope is as good as Bill Hicks, imo.




His catalog isn't as small as you'd think, IMO.  Not sure what you've seen/heard, but there are a ton of Hicks shows you can find on the net that were never released officially, where he tells jokes that I hadn't heard elsewhere.  Stuff that he makes up on the fly or stuff that he was working on that maybe he had planned on using in a special or something.  And he tells the same joke slightly or completely different most times anyway.  I guess it's all in how you look at it and/or how much you like him. 

















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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22355227 - 10/09/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This gif is so badass. Drinking and driving isn't but at the same time that was pretty cool and funny :lol:.

I saw that a lot of Bill Hicks's stuff was taken off of an older thread that I would visit to watch too.
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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23310054 - 06/05/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

If you recognize the genius in hicks but fail to see stanhopes talent you're a fanboy

Stanhopes message is nearly identical, and he might not be as intelligent as Hicks was but he's damn close and just as funny if not more funny.


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Re: What happened to the Bill Hicks material on youtube? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23326669 - 06/09/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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ModestMouse said:
If you recognize the genius in hicks but fail to see stanhopes talent you're a fanboy

Stanhopes message is nearly identical, and he might not be as intelligent as Hicks was but he's damn close and just as funny if not more funny.




Doug Stanhope?  Step into my office....


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