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thebug76
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22360619 - 10/10/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Using MS, I wouldn't use less than 1:8 ratio, preferably 1:4.
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newbie47
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: thebug76]
#22360971 - 10/10/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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so how much water would hydrate 6 cups of coir?
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Psilosoulful

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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22361035 - 10/10/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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newbie47 said: so how much water would hydrate 6 cups of coir?
About two liters (a rough estimate). But, always squeeze to field capacity.
Edited by Psilosoulful (10/10/15 10:18 PM)
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dirte
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Same boat here. Just look at a few things and give it a shot when you come up with a general favorable method of action, live and learn.
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22362462 - 10/11/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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newbie47 said: I guess a more direct question how much coir for one tray? I'm not going to use the whole brick at once so in terms of measurements and ratios to make sure I got it all down. 2 1/2 pint cakes would be obviously 1 pint that would mean I should have 3 pints of coir for those two cakes
I would need to know the volume of the tray to tell you that. I would go over 1:2 ratio with cakes in coir personally, but I've never done it so that's complete speculation.
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22362630 - 10/11/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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newbie47 said: I'm just looking for a higher yield cause 4 cakes only got me half ounce about and the 5 I have in now will probably yield about the same. I've got three older cakes I'm gonna try this method with first
Your best bet then would to invest in a bigger PC (even one from a thrift store).
Then start some agar plates, do some transfers to get a "clean" culture, then use some colonized wedges to nock up some quart jars of whole oats or wild bird seed and spawn those to bulk...
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Psilosoulful

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FreeWorldOrder said: Then start some agar plates, do some transfers to get a "clean" culture, then use some colonized wedges to nock up some quart jars of whole oats or wild bird seed and spawn those to bulk... 
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newbie47
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My pan dimensions are 11.75 in W x 9.25 in D x 2.5 in H
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22369019 - 10/12/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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As stated above I'd wing it.
www.wolframalpha.com can help if you need help with math.
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newbie47
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: DrCrumbs]
#22371073 - 10/12/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I have a container (plastic with a locking lid) can hold about 6 cups of material no idea if itll be big enough but theoretically all I have to do is boil some water dump in with the coir snap the lid on and lit sit for an hour and a half? Fill the pan up maybe 2-3 inches with coir and take a cheese grater to a couple cakes cover that with tinfoil and let it sit. Would everyone agree with this method?
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WChef

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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22371202 - 10/12/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you wanna do trays, wouldn't it be simpler to work in an SAB? Sounds like you could save a lot of steps that way.
I just started my first WBS to bulk grow. I didn't have the equipment to properly pasteurize my coir, so I probably ended up sterilizing at least some of it. Prepped my trays inside my SAB, and sealed up the holes with tyvek. They're near complete colonization now with no signs of trouble.
Edited by WChef (10/12/15 10:42 PM)
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Psilosoulful

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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: WChef]
#22371284 - 10/12/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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WChef said: I didn't have the equipment to properly pasteurize my coir, so I probably ended up sterilizing at least some of it.
That's fine, coir is very contam resistant anyway, as long as you have clean spawn to work with! 
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WChef said: Prepped my trays inside my SAB, and sealed up the holes with tyvek. They're near complete colonization now with no signs of trouble.
That extra step was unnecessary. You can spawn in open air.
If you're grains show clean growth and are fully colonized before using, then you shouldn't have any problems.
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WChef

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Well, yeah. Lol. I probably went overboard on contam control, but I was sharing my little all in one method. Prep inside an SAB and seal and allow to colonize in the same vessel, then you don't have to cover it and you can see the colonization progress. Less worrying about proper pasteurization, covering, and general cleanliness. I suppose it doesn't work if you use your SAB frequently though. I personally only have the equipment and attention span for one grow at a time.
But I didn't know that about coir- thanks. Pasteurization was giving me a headache.
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Psilosoulful

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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: WChef]
#22371515 - 10/13/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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WChef said: But I didn't know that about coir- thanks. Pasteurization was giving me a headache.
Bucket tek'd coir works great! 
I save pasteurization for poo based substrates only.
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newbie47
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so for all who cares about my little project. I just finished pasteurizing around 4 cups of coir in 8 cups of water which I then squeezed to field capacity. I then added my 3 older BRF cakes to it by grinding them up with a cheese grater mixing then placed tinfoil on top and poked a few tiny holes in it.
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22374815 - 10/13/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool!! Make sure to cover those holes with a strip of micropore tape, you want very high CO2 levels during colonization, you don't want to slow down growth, it could open up the door for contams.
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newbie47
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Well hell I wish I knew I needed to cover them with micro pore tape
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22377446 - 10/14/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You don't.
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newbie47
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how many days do I let it sit. Probably a bad idea to check on it at all eh?
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Re: Mini Bulk trays [Re: newbie47]
#22388464 - 10/16/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can check it's fine. Usually 5-7 days or so.
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