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Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption
    #22352016 - 10/08/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hey everyone, I had a very awful trip one month ago. I took LSD at a concert two nights in a row.

The first night I became paranoid that I was gay based off of a comment some girl said to me. It was very weird, and felt like my 3rd chakra reversed. I Really did not like the feeling at all. Instead of rolling with the punches I got trapped in my head about it.

Didn't sleep that night. Took more acid and mdma the second night. Also didn't sleeep. Just got drunk the 3rd day, didn't sleep then either. Didn't sleep for 4 days total. Basically felt incredibly psychotic on the ride home. Finally got xanax and fell asleep but have had horrible sleep since. A couple good nights.

I think I'm realizing what's going on. I've tripped many, many many times before. Probably 50 or 60 times. I'd been living my life wrong, and was confronted with that and I think it manifested sexually.

I also want to talk about the Kundalini. Basically since this happened I've had a few instances in which the synchronicities have been very strong. Very strong. Last weekend I was reading an article about Pan/Lucifer and the next day there were many references to this in my daily life. It really freaked me out.

The thing is, I've had kundalini awakenings before. Once, years ago, I had this experience and felt immense love for the mother Goddess. It was an incredibly profound love and one of my best psychedelic experiences ever. I often feel like the kundalini rises in my spine to my head when I take acid.

This has never been a bad thing before.

However, I can still feel it in me, and things have not been good. They've been very negative the past month. I finally thought I was over it, and then some things happened to me earlier today. I felt out of place at work, and then volunteered tonight at a shelter type place and during a prayer (I've kind of gone back to Catholicism here) this one guy started talking about casting out demons, and this other women talked about a Wiccan guy who lives near her and stalks her basically. Just very very creepy stuff I'm not down with. I'm a child of the light through and through, or at least I try to be.

I've been seeing a psychologist who has been very helpful, but he's not familiar with psychedelics very much. Still, I've told him about all of these synchronicities and he has not said I was schizophrenic or anything. I also saw a psychiatrist, who was less wholistic and IMO less knowledgable, who prescribed me a low dose of seroquel for sleep.

Basically my chakras feel all out of alignment, and I feel like I fucked up sexually. Big time. Nothing has been right since this trip, I've barely been able to get hard, and its weaker than normal. My digestive system is screwed up. My heart feels closed and hard. My thinking is not working properly, I'm forgetting many things etc.

All of this has me profoundly distressed. On other forums, the advice I've gotten has been to work out and exercise and so forth.

What's especially troubling me is it it now feels like this kundalini is an evil force, whereas beforehand I thought it was mostly good, or rather, neutral. But it seems like I screwed up somewhere, and I just want to get things back on track.

I can't even listen to Phish or the Dead and enjoy the music because it kind of freaks me out too much. The worst is I've tripped so many times, so many times, and never had this problem. I know it was because I didn't fully let go, but that's hard to do when such a fundamental part of your identity seems to shift or reverse.

I'm scared I'll be stuck like this forever and I really don't want to be. I want to heal my soul, and get back to the happy loving person that I think of myself as.

I want to learn from this, I want to have a healthy relationship with my soul, the world, and my loved ones.

I'm wondering if anyone here has any spiritual advice or anything. One another forum someone suggested bikram yoga but at this point I'm almost scared of yoga because of the kundalini forces involved.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22352033 - 10/08/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just have another one


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #22352078 - 10/08/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Another trip? I need serious advice here, I've nearly gone insane and as much as I would love to trip in the future I'm not sure if that's a possibility right now. Maybe in a few months if I manage to get my shit together, but now it seems like it would not be a good idea. I need more information than just "take another trip". I've tripped a lot, and if I had another bad trip I think it would be even worse than this one. I need to heal myself.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22352316 - 10/08/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

First understand the biggest demon you're facing right now is the demon that makes you uneasy about who you are. Who cares? What if you were gay? Are you just dying to get out there and get your homo on? Probably not, but if you were you should be like, eh, whatever.

Don't hold yourself to what you expect yourself to be.

This head fuckery is holding you down and you've been separated from comfort, which is strange. You're also getting your brain chemistry back in order.

Take your mind off of things. Have a few cold ones, watch a comedy, make a nice meal, learn a new dish to make, pet a cat, just stop thinking so much. You'll be re-integrated. Trust me.

Just don't smoke weed or trip for a long time. s'all good.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22352334 - 10/08/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You will get out of it, and it takes a certain degree of courage and persistence.  Working out and exercise is good because it re-balances the chemicals in your body.  I have to regularly exercise to constantly get my body in balance.  Weight lifting can be good because it gets the testosterone pumping, which honestly feels fucking awesome.  Yoga also re-balances yourself with relative ease.  There's nothing harmful or risky about it.  Also, sometimes I tell myself to stop being a pussy.  This doesn't work for everyone but it works for me.  For example, I'm worried about something that seems like a huge problem, then I say stop being a pussy Paul, and then I go, oh yeah, I am being a pussy, and it all seems a lot easier.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: Jufin]
    #22352449 - 10/08/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the responses. I think what initially worried me was I saw on a reddit post something about some stages of kundalini awakening being irreversible etc.

And this is what worried me in my situation. I felt like I had raised this energy up, not properly dealt with it, and now I'm stuck with it some ways. I don't want to feed the negative energy.

There's so much personal stuff involved. I even ended up posting my whole story on another forum and I found out some friends found about it. Kind of made me embarassed but whatever.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has been through a mildly psychotic experience that lasted a little over a month and then came back down to earth. For the record I'm still functional it's just been weird. No sex drive, digestion is weird, forgetting things, etc.

I know I'll get better, just wondering if there are certain steps I should take.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22352872 - 10/09/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have, heaps of times.  A friend of mine after an acid trip was severely paranoid for probably a year or so, thought a bikie gang was out to kill him, thought his mum and brother were in on it, etc.  Now he's married and just bought a house, really solid guy.  He completely got over it.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: Jufin]
    #22353537 - 10/09/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you!! Do you know what he did to get over it or did it just take time?


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22353718 - 10/09/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It basically feels like this kundalini energy took me to the dark side and I don't like that. My heart feels dark and this is all awful.

Even when I went volunteering last night I felt out of place. It wasn't so much volunteering as just hanging out and talking with the people there. I'm trying to maintain a positive outlook but I'm completely failing at that.

I've never had anything like this happen in all my years of tripping. And that the negative effects have lasted this long is troubling. I want to be a good person and be full of love like I used to be. Even smiling is hard now and when I do it feels forced.

I don't like this. I've been reading on other sites online and it says not to resume meditation or yoga that works with this energy until it has totally dissipated again. I just worry that since I used a psychedelic, after having positive experiences of this in the past, that this is somehow unchangeable. And quite frankly I'm very afraid of hell right now.

The experience has been so visceral. Its like I was shown the proper spiritual way in years past but I only vaguely tried to be good and didn't fully commit myself to service. Instead I just worked my job which I've disliked, even though it's a great organization, and became self indulgent the past two years. It seriously felt like a punishment bfornuow I was living my life and now I'm scared. I love goodness, I love love, I love the positive in the world. Its been hard to truly feel that since this happened.

I need serious spiritual help and guidance. I will go ahead and exercise and try to take it easy and I've been praying to God as well. I just never thought this type of judgement would happen like this. Part of me thinks it's all in my head, but if anyone has had serious experience with the kundalini please comment.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22353924 - 10/09/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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halo said:
Hey everyone, I had a very awful trip one month ago. I took LSD at a concert two nights in a row.

The first night I became paranoid that I was gay based off of a comment some girl said to me. It was very weird, and felt like my 3rd chakra reversed. I Really did not like the feeling at all. Instead of rolling with the punches I got trapped in my head about it.

Didn't sleep that night. Took more acid and mdma the second night. Also didn't sleeep. Just got drunk the 3rd day, didn't sleep then either. Didn't sleep for 4 days total. Basically felt incredibly psychotic on the ride home. Finally got xanax and fell asleep but have had horrible sleep since. A couple good nights.







Acid. MDMA. Alcohol. Xanax. Day after day. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Your problem is solved: No more acid (for a while at least). No more MDMA (ever). No more Alcohol (in combination with anything else). No more Xanax (ever, unless prescribed).

Cause: Nano-brained use of psyches combinated with a grandiose interpretation of trip results--kundalini rising, etc.-- ends in prepsychotic behavior.
Cure: STOP IT.

PS: By the way, kundalini can be a terrific fucker. Read Gopi Krishna.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: champinhom]
    #22354081 - 10/09/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you. I know my actions were stupid. That's what was so odd about the weekend. I've gone to numerous shows and have tripped numerous times and never lost control in a negative way like I did that weekend. Things have always been pretty positive for me. And I've always been very careful. It was almost like I was on autopilot. I truly wasn't thinking rationally.

And yeah I have been presychotic. Lots of synchronicities everywhere. Though they seem to fade the less I focus on them.

I do not plan on using any psychedelics for a long long time. It just sucks, I succumbed to the fear and had an awful weekend and have continued to have a hard time the past month. Bad luck and stuff seems to be following, whereas before things usually worked in my favor.

I'm just afraid I might not be able to listen to phish again without freaking out. It's just like everything took on a dark feel. Like I slipped to the dark side.

And tbh I'm kind of afraid to research more on the kundalini. I'd had experiences with it in the past and they were beautiful. But I never really pursued things farther because I was focused on school.

Tbh it felt like I allowed myself to be distracted from the truly spiritual path. And that because of this I have been dealt this heavy psychic blow. I just hope its not something permanent.

I consider myself a spiritual person, and I just want to get back on the right track again.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22354151 - 10/09/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You are taking this spiritual thing way to seriously imo.  Everything is ok :thumbup:


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: cez]
    #22354275 - 10/09/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for posting that. I agree I'm taking things too seriously. But all of this has felt so real. I've never been more scared in my entire life.

I'm trying to turn the corner, but it's tough.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22355319 - 10/09/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My advice would be to read LSD psychotherapy by Stanislov Grof. This book helped me following a bad trip.


Also if you do trip again (which I recommend, I feel like it is necessary go back and face whatever fears and unresolved issues caused the prior bad trip) I would use a natural psychedelic. I am not against LSD but it will never hold the same value for me as the natural psychs.


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    #22355384 - 10/09/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Cease taking all psychedelics including cannabis until you're stabilized. I'v tripped at least 10 times more than you have over a 44 year period, so don't beat yourself up for past experiences. You need to ground whatever energies that might have been liberated. And btw, at VERY high dose trips, only slow Ravi Shankar ragas work to smooth out my nervous system when even Hatha Yoga asanas (which are VERY VERY helpful!) aren't doing it. This is when even the most sublime Dark Star isn't working.

I will not attempt to practice medicine without a license, or countermand your psychiatrist's advice, but I would warn you away from psychotropics including Seroquel® ASAP.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetiapine This IS an anti-psychotic medication, and sleep would be an off-label use. Melatonin even in multi-milligram doses is not harmful. Valerian root capsules or tea, 5-HTP and/or L-Tryptophan (I like the former better)  may help unbalanced your serotonergic system and bring sleep. I've used or currently use all of these products with good results, but check with your psychiatrist (my own disclaimer :wink:).

Your writing is lucid and you have thought things out, suggesting to me (and I am licensed as a mental health provider) that you are not at the time of writing this post in the throes of a psychotic episode. Kundalini gone awry was described by Gopi Krishna in his book Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man, which occurred to him in the 1930s. Stan Grof, M.D., speaks to such unrecognized conditions (by allopathic medicine) as a 'spiritual emergency' or 'spiritual crisis.' You need not personify it as the goddess Kundalini-Shakti, nor do you need to listen to any guilt-related explanations of demonic possession, especially from fundamentalist Christian sources (I am a Christian of a type, hold a reputable seminary degree, and can locate Kundalini-related phenomena in detail in Genesis with Jacob's dream, as well as in Luke Acts, and I defy any of those Hell-fire and brimstone heretics who would seek to make you feel guilty for whatever you're experiencing).

You are apparently experiencing (based on your description) elevated degrees of anxiety (for which I take 100-200 mg of L-Theanine daily, and 500 mg of L-Taurine if I'm really anxious on top of the L-Theanine). You have not mentioned HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perceptual Disorder), which is a good thing! :yesnod: Synchronicites are going to include an Archetype of the Collective Unconscious or else it will merely be a common coincidence which has more of a probabalistic nature than a truly Synchronistic one. Lucifer or Pan are both horned archetypal images, the former only being described as "an angel of light" insofar as Lucifer means 'light-bearer' in Latin (in Greek it is Phosphorus, for which the element was named). Just saying, lest you develop spiritual paranoia. :nono: Horns were a symbol of divinity in pre-Christian times, and of course, the lunar crescent that horns are associated with were associated with femininity and Goddess worship. Christianity merely identified the old deities with new devils. Pan mean 'All' in Greek, and refers to 'All of nature.' He is a fertility deity, not an evil entity.

I hope you feel better soon.



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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22356507 - 10/09/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hey halo,

Kundalini awakened as a result of psychedelics or any other life trauma can be very hard to deal with. I can point you to an initiation video by a real Guru that may alleviate some of your bad symptoms.

Instructions: Just watch the video and start chanting the mantra.
Video:


You can read about my experiences with this Guru in my previous thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17536576#17536576

I hope this helps you!

Peace.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22356561 - 10/09/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

so was this all because of comment that made u feel gay?, is this correct?..

i'd like to hear more about it :strokebeard:

seems there are some things u are keeping inside and it's killing u, maybe it would help u to share them as best as u can, of if they are too personal to share in public maybe u can share them with a close friend u can trust. i am also available through pm if it has to come to that, i'm all ears.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: zZZz]
    #22356973 - 10/09/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I can maybe post a more detailed account here later. I had typed it out but I have this fear that talking about the negative aspects of what happened makes it more real.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22357004 - 10/09/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

quite the contrary ime, it really helps to write it out or talk about it as much as possible. even if it's just for urself.


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Re: Bad Trip: lasting effects 1 month later, is there redemption [Re: halo]
    #22357344 - 10/10/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How much Lsd did you take,how many tabs? Going nights without sleep tripping can wreck havoc on your psyche

I can relate to a trip being very sexual in nature and make you switch your masculinity/feminity otherway during the trip and make you doubt your sexual identity post-trip, I've been on that ride and it gets very confusing to the whole idea of who am I sexually attracted to?

None of these occurences are pemanent and they all will fade eventually, give it time, spend more time in nature, talk, write, sing, dance out that energy, you'll be good and dont go believing in all those thoughts in your head :smile:


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