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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22387683 - 10/16/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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That's a grey area.  You've argued against things that are black and white.





Yeah like what?


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22388129 - 10/16/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You've argued against things that are black and white.





Yeah like what?



You've argued that average wealth is more important than median wealth, even if 400 people own 62% of all wealth.

That means the real wealth of the other 320 million people is less than half of the reported average wealth.  But you don't seem to get that.

(Yes, I know other countries have billionaires, but they don't own 62% of all wealth).


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22388641 - 10/16/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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burgerbrain said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You've argued against things that are black and white.





Yeah like what?



You've argued that average wealth is more important than median wealth, even if 400 people own 62% of all wealth.

That means the real wealth of the other 320 million people is less than half of the reported average wealth.  But you don't seem to get that.

(Yes, I know other countries have billionaires, but they don't own 62% of all wealth).





The idea that the wealthiest should have the biggest say, by far, in the direction of the country and what investments the country makes is, at least to me, repulsive.


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22388709 - 10/16/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22389830 - 10/16/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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burgerbrain said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You've argued against things that are black and white.





Yeah like what?



You've argued that average wealth is more important than median wealth, even if 400 people own 62% of all wealth.

That means the real wealth of the other 320 million people is less than half of the reported average wealth.  But you don't seem to get that.

(Yes, I know other countries have billionaires, but they don't own 62% of all wealth).





The idea that the wealthiest should have the biggest say, by far, in the direction of the country and what investments the country makes is, at least to me, repulsive.




yeah, lets let the homeless and poor make policy decisions... great fucking idea!


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22389856 - 10/16/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

burgerbrain said:
Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You've argued against things that are black and white.





Yeah like what?



You've argued that average wealth is more important than median wealth, even if 400 people own 62% of all wealth.

That means the real wealth of the other 320 million people is less than half of the reported average wealth.  But you don't seem to get that.

(Yes, I know other countries have billionaires, but they don't own 62% of all wealth).





By your graph, in Norway, a few people own 53% of the wealth. So you have no point again.

Average wealth is still a better number to use for multiple reasons. So you have no point again.

So you have no point again.


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain] * 1
    #22389876 - 10/16/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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By your graph, in Norway, a few people own 53% of the wealth. So you have no point again.

Average wealth is still a better number to use for multiple reasons. So you have no point again.

So you have no point again.




they never do, wealth inequality exists in every country, difference is here, the middle class isn't raped quite as hard...

***insert Bernie Sanders gang rape joke here...


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22390192 - 10/16/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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By your graph, in Norway, a few people own 53% of the wealth. So you have no point again.

Average wealth is still a better number to use for multiple reasons. So you have no point again.

So you have no point again.




they never do, wealth inequality exists in every country, difference is here, the middle class isn't raped quite as hard...

***insert Bernie Sanders gang rape joke here...





Socialists are joke. Remember the "median" wealth graph? Here's a quote from the median wealth graph page he posted:

"Professor Davies was kind enough to lay out the technical issues for me. First, of all, data for mean wealth is more reliable than median wealth."

That means this graph: Is more valid that his "median" graph that puts the US @ "27th"
Figure 4: Financial Net Wealth of Households

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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22390727 - 10/16/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Remember the "median" wealth graph? Here's a quote from the median wealth graph page he posted:

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Professor Davies was kind enough to lay out the technical issues for me. First, of all, data for mean wealth is more reliable than median wealth.




That means this graph: Is more valid that his "median" graph that puts the US @ "27th"



No, it doesn't mean that at all.  He went on to explain that it's simply harder to determine median wealth.

I explained above why median wealth is more relevant, and obviously Professor Davies agrees with me or he wouldn't have used median wealth.


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22390736 - 10/16/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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burgerbrain said:
Remember the "median" wealth graph? Here's a quote from the median wealth graph page he posted:

Quote:

Professor Davies was kind enough to lay out the technical issues for me. First, of all, data for mean wealth is more reliable than median wealth.




That means this graph: Is more valid that his "median" graph that puts the US @ "27th"



No, it doesn't mean that at all.  He went on to explain that it's simply harder to determine median wealth.

I explained above why median wealth is more relevant, and obviously Professor Davies agrees with me or he wouldn't have used median wealth.





Wrong again. In the link you provided:
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Professor Davies was kind enough to lay out the technical issues for me. First, of all, data for mean wealth is more reliable than median wealth.




It does mean that the average wealth is more relevant than median wealth.

I guess you can't read.


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22390760 - 10/16/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How can we debate when basic facts elude socialists?


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22390774 - 10/16/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

"I copied a liberal's thread title but he's the lazy one."


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22390794 - 10/16/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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burgerbrain said:
Remember the "median" wealth graph? Here's a quote from the median wealth graph page he posted:

Quote:

Professor Davies was kind enough to lay out the technical issues for me. First, of all, data for mean wealth is more reliable than median wealth.




That means this graph: Is more valid that his "median" graph that puts the US @ "27th"



No, it doesn't mean that at all.  He went on to explain that it's simply harder to determine median wealth.

I explained above why median wealth is more relevant, and obviously Professor Davies agrees with me or he wouldn't have used median wealth.





Wrong again. In the link you provided:
Quote:

Professor Davies was kind enough to lay out the technical issues for me. First, of all, data for mean wealth is more reliable than median wealth.




It does mean that the average wealth is more relevant than median wealth.

I guess you can't read.




He said the 'data... is more reliable'!!! LMAO!!!
And you, with your incredible interpretation skills, interpret 'the data is more reliable' as 'the data is more relevant'!

I'm fucking sloppy faced drunk, and you still make me feel like a genius. Jesus fucking christ.

This is basic fuckign math that a child understands. Haven't you ever heard of 'weighted averages'? lmao


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain] * 1
    #22390808 - 10/16/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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How can we debate when basic facts elude socialists?




its easy, we just live in fantasy land and call conservatives stupid...


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22390819 - 10/16/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

@bbw I'm 8 beers deep and it hasn't impaired my ability to comprehend dialogue either.

I guess we're super human :shrug:


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22390821 - 10/16/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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How can we debate when basic facts elude socialists?




its easy, we just live in fantasy land and call conservatives stupid...




That doesn't even make sense.

You two stooges would have better success "debating" (I'm being gracious as fuck) if all you said was 'Derr de derr derp' and :carlinorgasm:.


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22390833 - 10/16/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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@bbw I'm 8 beers deep and it hasn't impaired my ability to comprehend dialogue either.

I guess we're super human :shrug:




I haven't had a drink since January... So I'm tolerance free drunk! lmao


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22390844 - 10/16/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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@bbw I'm 8 beers deep and it hasn't impaired my ability to comprehend dialogue either.

I guess we're super human :shrug:




I haven't had a drink since January... So I'm tolerance free drunk! lmao




Luckyyyy, I'm drinking yuengling and I'm barely impaired. Craft beer has ruined my tolerance.


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #22390851 - 10/16/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
@bbw I'm 8 beers deep and it hasn't impaired my ability to comprehend dialogue either.

I guess we're super human :shrug:




I haven't had a drink since January... So I'm tolerance free drunk! lmao




wow, thats amazing with the shit you post...


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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22390856 - 10/16/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lolsy:


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