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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22419601 - 10/22/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder if spying on us and arresting whistleblowers is what Obama meant when he said his administration would be transparent.

Why do people attempt to laugh at very serious situations? We're living in fucking Nazi Germany
Lighten up bud ... this is a discussion board on a psychedelic mushrooms site.
No one's changing the world here.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22419727 - 10/22/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder if spying on us and arresting whistleblowers is what Obama meant when he said his administration would be transparent.

Why do people attempt to laugh at very serious situations? We're living in fucking Nazi Germany
Lighten up bud ... this is a discussion board on a psychedelic mushrooms site.
No one's changing the world here.
It was just a question, don't get all upset.
Oh yeah, actually, we can change the world if we get the right ideas out.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420660 - 10/22/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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First you would have to find the right ideas...
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: ballsalsa]
#22420665 - 10/22/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hehe, nobody has proved me wrong yet
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420687 - 10/22/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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on the contrary; your specious arguments tend to refute themselves. All it takes is a willingness to read and learn to know that most of what you have been spewing in here is garbage. Notice that i said most. I have confidence that given enough time, you can improve that to maybe 50% hateful garbage, and from there, the sky's the limit.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: ballsalsa]
#22420692 - 10/22/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: on the contrary; your specious arguments tend to refute themselves. All it takes is a willingness to read and learn to know that most of what you have been spewing in here is garbage. Notice that i said most. I have confidence that given enough time, you can improve that to maybe 50% hateful garbage, and from there, the sky's the limit.
Haha, more ad-hominem from someone whose ass I kick at debate.
Any examples, or just more attempted dumb insults from the defeated?
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420711 - 10/22/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said:
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ballsalsa said: on the contrary; your specious arguments tend to refute themselves. All it takes is a willingness to read and learn to know that most of what you have been spewing in here is garbage. Notice that i said most. I have confidence that given enough time, you can improve that to maybe 50% hateful garbage, and from there, the sky's the limit.
Haha, more ad-hominem from someone whose ass I kick at debate.
Any examples, or just more attempted dumb insults from a defeated loser?
            
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22420718 - 10/22/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: on the contrary; your specious arguments tend to refute themselves. All it takes is a willingness to read and learn to know that most of what you have been spewing in here is garbage. Notice that i said most. I have confidence that given enough time, you can improve that to maybe 50% hateful garbage, and from there, the sky's the limit.
Haha, more ad-hominem from someone whose ass I kick at debate.
Any examples, or just more attempted dumb insults from a defeated loser?
            
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420786 - 10/22/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: on the contrary; your specious arguments tend to refute themselves. All it takes is a willingness to read and learn to know that most of what you have been spewing in here is garbage. Notice that i said most. I have confidence that given enough time, you can improve that to maybe 50% hateful garbage, and from there, the sky's the limit.
Haha, more ad-hominem from someone whose ass I kick at debate.
Any examples, or just more attempted dumb insults from the defeated?
On the contrary; i think you are probably a good guy. I've attacked your arguments, not you. When i said that i have confidence in your ability to improve, i was being serious. As for examples, all you have to do is re-read this thread or several others in which we have both participated. Just because you pretend not to remember the many times i have refuted your arguments, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Criticisms are not insults, but if you are looking for compliments i can oblige you somewhat. Assuming that you are not trolling, you seem to be quite passionate about your beliefs. I think that is a good first step. But passion must be tempered by wisdom, which i don't think you have demonstrated, but i don't think it is outside of your grasp either. Knowledge is not wisdom, but it can give you the perspective to make wisdom achievable. Therefore, i believe, that given enough time to contemplate and gain knowledge, you can become wise. I look forward to seeing whether or not my hypothesis bears out in reality.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: ballsalsa]
#22420799 - 10/22/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said:
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ballsalsa said: on the contrary; your specious arguments tend to refute themselves. All it takes is a willingness to read and learn to know that most of what you have been spewing in here is garbage. Notice that i said most. I have confidence that given enough time, you can improve that to maybe 50% hateful garbage, and from there, the sky's the limit.
Haha, more ad-hominem from someone whose ass I kick at debate.
Any examples, or just more attempted dumb insults from the defeated?
On the contrary; i think you are probably a good guy. I've attacked your arguments, not you. When i said that i have confidence in your ability to improve, i was being serious. As for examples, all you have to do is re-read this thread or several others in which we have both participated. Just because you pretend not to remember the many times i have refuted your arguments, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Criticisms are not insults, but if you are looking for compliments i can oblige you somewhat. Assuming that you are not trolling, you seem to be quite passionate about your beliefs. I think that is a good first step. But passion must be tempered by wisdom, which i don't think you have demonstrated, but i don't think it is outside of your grasp either. Knowledge is not wisdom, but it can give you the perspective to make wisdom achievable. Therefore, i believe, that given enough time to contemplate and gain knowledge, you can become wise. I look forward to seeing whether or not my hypothesis bears out in reality.
Aaah so I can look at the examples of you losing in debate, and trust that I won each debate with you. I'm glad I can win each debate- you take on such easily beatable positions.
Yes I'm smarter than you, and more wise than you. You'll never be as smart as I am, and you'll never be as wise as I am.
Get a brain and get back to me.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420836 - 10/22/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said: Aaah so I can look at the examples of you losing in debate, and trust that I won each debate with you. I'm glad I can win each debate- you take on such easy positions to beat.
Yes I'm smarter than you, and more wise than you. You'll never be as smart as I am, and you'll never be as wise as I am.
Get a brain and get back to me.
lol! In what fucking universe dude? Please, give me one example of a time when you 'won a debate' with Balls. You are such a fucking megatroll it's unbelievable.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22420850 - 10/22/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said: Aaah so I can look at the examples of you losing in debate, and trust that I won each debate with you. I'm glad I can win each debate- you take on such easy positions to beat.
Yes I'm smarter than you, and more wise than you. You'll never be as smart as I am, and you'll never be as wise as I am.
Get a brain and get back to me.
lol! In what fucking universe dude? Please, give me one example of a time when you 'won a debate' with Balls. You are such a fucking megatroll it's unbelievable.
Here's an example, since you are unable to post anything productive.
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do you remember? As i recall, its was thoroughly shown that the USPS is a functioning social program that competes effectively with private competition.
How about the LADWP? were you in on that convo? Again, much like the USPS, LADWP is profitable, while providing the same services as private competitors, and helping to fund the gov't. As for the ACA, there is really nothing socialist about it. It is corporate welfare for insurance companies, plain and simple. The ACA is a perfect example of the thesis, antithesis, synthesis, scam that is perpetuated by the 2 party system.
U.S. Postal Service Records Second Quarter Loss of $1.9 Billion Urges Congress to Pass Comprehensive Postal Legislation WASHINGTON — The U.S. Postal Service ended the second quarter of its 2014 fiscal year (Jan. 1, 2014 – March 31, 2014) with a net loss of $1.9 billion. This marks the 20th of the last 22 quarters it has sustained a loss. https://about.usps.com/news/national-releases/2014/pr14_031.htm
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420884 - 10/22/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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we have discussed this ad nauseum. If you can't be bothered to look beyond the headline, and try to understand why the USPS is posting losses, then we have nothing further to talk about with regard to that topic. If it makes you feel good to declare victory, go for it. Or you could try debating with some intellectual integrity and honesty. You might learn something. I know i often do. Maybe not though, since you're so much smarter than me.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: ballsalsa]
#22420896 - 10/22/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: we have discussed this ad nauseum. If you can't be bothered to look beyond the headline, and try to understand why the USPS is posting losses, then we have nothing further to talk about with regard to that topic. If it makes you feel good to declare victory, go for it. Or you could try debating with some intellectual integrity and honesty. You might learn something. I know i often do. Maybe not though, since you're so much smarter than me.
Yes I am smarter than you and I proved it.
Only a dummy thinks that the USPS is quote "Again, much like the USPS, LADWP is profitable, while providing the same services as private competitors, and helping to fund the gov't."
I own you. The sooner you realize it the better.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420945 - 10/22/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: we have discussed this ad nauseum. If you can't be bothered to look beyond the headline, and try to understand why the USPS is posting losses, then we have nothing further to talk about with regard to that topic. If it makes you feel good to declare victory, go for it. Or you could try debating with some intellectual integrity and honesty. You might learn something. I know i often do. Maybe not though, since you're so much smarter than me.
Yes I am smarter than you and I proved it.
Only a dummy thinks that the USPS is quote "Again, much like the USPS, LADWP is profitable, while providing the same services as private competitors, and helping to fund the gov't."
I own you. The sooner you realize it the better.

My 14 year old is more enlightening/enlightened than you, sir.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22420956 - 10/22/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: we have discussed this ad nauseum. If you can't be bothered to look beyond the headline, and try to understand why the USPS is posting losses, then we have nothing further to talk about with regard to that topic. If it makes you feel good to declare victory, go for it. Or you could try debating with some intellectual integrity and honesty. You might learn something. I know i often do. Maybe not though, since you're so much smarter than me.
Yes I am smarter than you and I proved it.
Only a dummy thinks that the USPS is quote "Again, much like the USPS, LADWP is profitable, while providing the same services as private competitors, and helping to fund the gov't."
I own you. The sooner you realize it the better.

My 14 year old is more enlightening/enlightened than you, sir.
Does your retarded 14 year old also think that the USPS is profitable?
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420967 - 10/22/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said: Does your retarded 14 year old also think that the USPS is profitable?
Don't talk that way about her.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22420972 - 10/22/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said: Does your retarded 14 year old also think that the USPS is profitable?
Don't talk that way about her.
I asked you a question, you brought her up first.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420976 - 10/22/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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burgerbrain said: Does your retarded 14 year old also think that the USPS is profitable?
Don't talk that way about her.
I asked you a question, you brought her up first.
You better fucking drop this line, buddy.
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Re: Socialism, Communism, Collectivism, and Democratic Socialism is intellectual laziness [Re: burgerbrain]
#22420982 - 10/22/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Descartes#Philosophical_work
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To further demonstrate the limitations of these senses, Descartes proceeds with what is known as the Wax Argument. He considers a piece of wax; his senses inform him that it has certain characteristics, such as shape, texture, size, color, smell, and so forth. When he brings the wax towards a flame, these characteristics change completely. However, it seems that it is still the same thing: it is still the same piece of wax, even though the data of the senses inform him that all of its characteristics are different. Therefore, in order to properly grasp the nature of the wax, he should put aside the senses. He must use his mind. Descartes concludes:
And so something that I thought I was seeing with my eyes is in fact grasped solely by the faculty of judgment which is in my mind.
Of course, Descartes was talking about the nature of perception, but i'm just using it to illuminate the need to look beyond the obvious. Rather than asking "what?" we need to be asking "why?"
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