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Machiavelliavore
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22467554 - 11/02/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, some type of dub-tub. Durr, title. Anyway, that poly stuffing looks pretty light, so unless it's blocked by tape, that should provide plenty of FAE. Your sub is what, like 4qt at most?
Monotub shotgun hybrids are just tubs that are shotgunned (lots of small ~2in spaced holes) above the substrate and require misting. There are dumbdubs that use that configuration, but yours isn't one of them.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22467598 - 11/02/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good bro, congratulations!
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GreenHornThumb
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22470438 - 11/03/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: Okay, some type of dub-tub. Durr, title. Anyway, that poly stuffing looks pretty light, so unless it's blocked by tape, that should provide plenty of FAE. Your sub is what, like 4qt at most?
Monotub shotgun hybrids are just tubs that are shotgunned (lots of small ~2in spaced holes) above the substrate and require misting. There are dumbdubs that use that configuration, but yours isn't one of them.
Now I got fuzzy feet ?
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22470479 - 11/03/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't worry so much about fuzzy feet. Just up the FAE as much as you can without drying everything out. Some of my best fruits ever were fuzzy as fuck.
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GreenHornThumb
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wowimflabbergasted said: Don't worry so much about fuzzy feet. Just up the FAE as much as you can without drying everything out. Some of my best fruits ever were fuzzy as fuck.
Words I like seeing ! You got it bro.
Edited by GreenHornThumb (11/03/15 11:01 AM)
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22470496 - 11/03/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Look at these fuzzy bitches, I wish I had cloned this because they rocked my shit hard.
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GreenHornThumb
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wowimflabbergasted said: Look at these fuzzy bitches, I wish I had cloned this because they rocked my shit hard.

Are there 2 different strains in there ? Or are those cut bruise.
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22470530 - 11/03/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No they are all GT.
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GreenHornThumb
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wowimflabbergasted said: No they are all GT.

Beautiful I have 6500k lights , how high are youessential above your chambers ? Unless the flash is making it brighter ?
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22470717 - 11/03/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably 1.5' or so.
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GreenHornThumb
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Better pics and yea 4qts only like 1.5 pints of spawn or less
Edited by GreenHornThumb (11/03/15 04:26 PM)
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22471957 - 11/03/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good job, you'll be harvesting in no time!
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22472013 - 11/03/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: Good job, you'll be harvesting in no time! 
Appreciate it ! My next will be a 2 qt spawn mono tub.
Question regarding effects of growth/thickness to verm to coir ratio, when there is more verm than coir?
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22472107 - 11/03/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My sense is that verm tends to colonize somewhat more densely than coir. Volumetric water capacity is about the same at .5qt water/qt substrate. Coir has some real metabolic fuel to it supposedly, which pays for (give or take) the cost of colonization which verm does not.
Overall you aren't likely to see any major effect from shifting these ratios. I use straight coir, a lot of people say verm improves the texture. Can't say I've found that to be the case with fine verm at least. One of these days I'll do some experiments with a prolific isolate, say 0/100, 50/50, 75/25, and 100/0 = c/v
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22472147 - 11/03/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: My sense is that verm tends to colonize somewhat more densely than coir. Volumetric water capacity is about the same at .5qt water/qt substrate. Coir has some real metabolic fuel to it supposedly, which pays for (give or take) the cost of colonization which verm does not. Overall you aren't likely to see any major effect from shifting these ratios. I use straight coir, a lot of people say verm improves the texture. Can't say I've found that to be the case with fine verm at least. One of these days I'll do some experiments with a prolific isolate, say 0/100, 50/50, 75/25, and 100/0 = c/v
Reason I ask is because I seen small projects like mine but fruits varied so much. Some people had like little bit of pins but we're thick and massive then there's people with tons of pins but they mature so quickly and small . Then there's people like me where it's kinda like in between.
Thought sub ratio had an effect. Granted this spawn was all corn. Monotub will be oats.
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22472180 - 11/03/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Genetics are most likely the main factor. Strains that produce excellent pinsets sometimes cannot sustain their water requirements and result in small fruits, or large fruits and tons of aborts.

This is such a strain I grew. Those are each typically like 1.5" or under. I'm going to experiment with more with adding some water during fruiting and lower spawn to substrate ratio (more sub) to see if I can sustain it. I recently ate some of those and they were by far the most potent thing I've ever consumed. Biggest pain in the ass ever to harvest.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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wowimflabbergasted said: Don't worry so much about fuzzy feet. Just up the FAE as much as you can without drying everything out. Some of my best fruits ever were fuzzy as fuck.
I have had some nice fuzzy footed fruits in a properly constructed and maintained SGFC, IMO Lack of FAE can have something to do with it, but a lot of the time it's genetics.
Different strokes for different folks, but I would always use more coir than verm. Coir is mushroom food. For 2 quarts of spawn I would use a 20 something quart tub and use about a third of a coir brick and about 3/4 quart of verm for somewhere around a 1:2 spawn ratio. You don't have to use those exact numbers, you can play around a bit, it's up to you. Fruit size and pin set is a mix between genetics and conditions. The fun part is finding something you like and working with it.
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: NDStepp84]
#22472599 - 11/03/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: Don't worry so much about fuzzy feet. Just up the FAE as much as you can without drying everything out. Some of my best fruits ever were fuzzy as fuck.
I have had some nice fuzzy footed fruits in a properly constructed and maintained SGFC, IMO Lack of FAE can have something to do with it, but a lot of the time it's genetics.
Different strokes for different folks, but I would always use more coir than verm. Coir is mushroom food. For 2 quarts of spawn I would use a 20 something quart tub and use about a third of a coir brick and about 3/4 quart of verm for somewhere around a 1:2 spawn ratio. You don't have to use those exact numbers, you can play around a bit, it's up to you. Fruit size and pin set is a mix between genetics and conditions. The fun part is finding something you like and working with it.
Dang ok I got a 14 qt tub can i just buy another and put it on top like I did with my dubtub? Or should I really get a 20 qt tub
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: GreenHornThumb]
#22472619 - 11/03/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dunno where you are are, but I think 56qt sterilites for $5 at Target are the best deal for a tub. You can get like 10-15qt of sub in those things depending on how much you wanna push it. I just did one up with like 3qt of spawn and 7 qts of coir, quite nice.
I think you'll find dubtubs quite annoying to hold together once you start using standard monotubs.
If you want to do 1qt spawn testpans, sterilite 15qt's made into monos, or foil lasagnia pans with plastic lids (shotgun) from the dollarstore are probably best. You can also just do invitro grows.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Re: First Timer did lots of reading. Popcorn TeK. [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22472646 - 11/03/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: Dunno where you are are, but I think 56qt sterilites for $5 at Target are the best deal for a tub. You can get like 10-15qt of sub in those things depending on how much you wanna push it. I just did one up with like 3qt of spawn and 7 qts of coir, quite nice.
I think you'll find dubtubs quite annoying to hold together once you start using standard monotubs.
If you want to do 1qt spawn testpans, sterilite 15qt's made into monos, or foil lasagnia pans with plastic lids (shotgun) from the dollarstore are probably best. You can also just do invitro grows.
Ooo gotcha I'll probably get it then and use the 14 qt tub for small test strands. Like now I forgot to label a jar with what strand and it's almost done. I might do a small 2 liter tek with it.
With any size tub maintainingthe 3 inch depth is key and mixture is up to you right ?
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