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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22354017 - 10/09/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It's funny how even an online community such as the shroomery is so vocal against cultures they don't understand. Yet everyone would be the first to pat themselves about how "open minded" they are. :smirk:



Yea wtf , I was expecting it from old souverin red neck people around me in Quebec ,but really wasnt expecting such stupidity on here :doublefacepalm:

@shortknight again it's a miniscule % of immigrants who actually refused the ceremony. People don't see its tiny fuckin issue .People automatically go full tard when It comes to nationalism. Thy gon take our culture/jerbz!! They gon take over! Wtf were canada we only take like 10000 syrians which is fuckin nothing considering the hell is going on there


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #22354030 - 10/09/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just because you've heard of some extremist muslim groups, you  think every muslim is going to want to behead infidels?

That's like basing your view of christians solely based on the Westboro Baptist Church.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Shortknight]
    #22354035 - 10/09/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, from the city ( Vancouver)  I really don't even care about it.. It just pisses me off that you migrate to another country and
Think you can call the shots and be accommodated... When they weren't invited are generally aren't wanted ( not migrants but people in general because we have enough people here) like fuck even if you don't like our customs just go with it and go through the motions,  do be ungrateful and complain saying we are racist or un welcoming. If you don't like how we do things go to states or Europe, we won't be losing any sleep at night because you went somewhere else that is willing to.bend over backwards for you


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22354055 - 10/09/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You bend over backwards to swear allegiance to the queen of England....and you have the gall to poke fun at other culture's customs. Canada, LOL.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22354097 - 10/09/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

OP Stop talking about all immigrants as a group. 99.999 go throught customs without saying shit .wtf . Stop with your fuckin spoiled nationalism opinions. Canada doesn't even have a fuckin culture no one gives a fuck about the queen


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Achillita]
    #22354126 - 10/09/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Achillita said:
Just because you've heard of some extremist muslim groups, you  think every muslim is going to want to behead infidels?

That's like basing your view of christians solely based on the Westboro Baptist Church.



Noone is saying 'all Muslems are bad'. The majority hold perniciois beliefs.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22354128 - 10/09/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

On the other hand people, just something to think about! It can be said that striving for this kind of diversity can squelch diversity as a whole. Think about it, really think about it. You have Canadians, you have Americans, you have the swiss, you have russians, you have the Chinese, you have the Japanese.:peace: As a stranger going into each one of these places you're going to pick up a hell of alot of culture if they let you embrace it. You're going to see something special, something different, something truely unique, that you can hopefully take back to your hometown and share it in your own way. Atleast with yourself and the essence of grace you carry around everywhere. lol, this is where its going to paint me back, but the more you muddy the picture, the MORE you lose diversity with its clear distinctions it already has! Im proud to be different. Really!:peace:

Losing the foundations of what Canadian stands for is the underlying issue for me. It scares the hell out of me sometimes, but I do, I do try to not get sucked into the machine, the combine some might say:tongue2: But back to what im getting at. We can't undermind our foundations of this proud, honest country, especially if what we were building is something great. You take out the foundations, you lose the whole eventually:yinyang: Changing a citizen oath. Taking the national anthem out of public schools, changing uniforms to fit certain afflictions. This is a drip on an eroding culture and soon it simply wont be there.

God bless Canada eh!vLove your neighbor, spread love and live your life the way you want to. :heart:  Hold on to who you think dear, its a simple life:yinyang:

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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Shortknight]
    #22354196 - 10/09/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It starts with a niqab it ends with they are gonna take over .

Did black people took away US culture ??. Just stop this argument is a straight result of fear from the media (financed by Conservative party). It's like the oldest political tactic


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22354227 - 10/09/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We are not saying it gonna be terrorist bombings etc were just saying if we have to follow they should too, your mistaking it for racism when it's not, and it has nothing to do.with Harper, like I said it's the ONLY thing I agree on... And not because I don't like Muslims but because I feel if they want to come here they should have to follow the same.rules,  no special exceptions because " ohhhhhhhh I can't take it off, it's my religion. Your discriminating against me because I'm Muslim") or whatever other religion they are


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22354465 - 10/09/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If we eventually get everyone to look, think, and act the same, then we'll have finally reached cultural nirvana.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22354473 - 10/09/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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For the record I don't have any problems with Muslims or religions in general,  you can believe in what ever you want to... But I do have problems with people migrating to a different country and expecting us to accommodate to their culture and way of life. It doesn't work like that, you want to to live here, then you accommodate to us and our culture, or else go back to your own fucking country. Probably the only thing I agree with Stephen Harper on. I do think if someone chooses to wear it they should take it off for citizenship ceremonies, public event's,  entering banks etc... What do you guys think?




America is a melting pot. No one should feel they can't express their religion outside of the state and it's laws. Separation between church and state is a must though.

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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22354479 - 10/09/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not a fan of them.

They are humans though and deserve to be treated as humans even if their culture is evil and backward.

There has to be another way to solve this problem without completely turning them away but at the same time not allowing then to overrun Europe


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22354542 - 10/09/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Build a wall.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22355044 - 10/09/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, from the city ( Vancouver)  I really don't even care about it.. It just pisses me off that you migrate to another country and
Think you can call the shots and be accommodated... When they weren't invited are generally aren't wanted ( not migrants but people in general because we have enough people here) like fuck even if you don't like our customs just go with it and go through the motions,  do be ungrateful and complain saying we are racist or un welcoming. If you don't like how we do things go to states or Europe, we won't be losing any sleep at night because you went somewhere else that is willing to.bend over backwards for you




When you mention not wanting people in general, "because we have enough people here," are you referring to the city of Vancouver, or the country of Canada on the whole (with a population lower than the state of California and a land mass greater than the US)?


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Tantrika]
    #22355254 - 10/09/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Referring the Vancouver,  the traffic is so fucking bad and everything seems crowded and busy. Just because the states is over populated doesn't mean we should be too.. But I do get that the prairies and maritimes would be in need of people. And we may have a larger land mass but compared to the states, how much more land do we have that is not habitable?


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #22355291 - 10/09/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Some niqabs are quite pretty. I've seen a bridal one that took my breath away. I don't care if women decide to wear them. If I have to deal with overweight dudes in muscle shirts with very little manscaping, I think I can handle a woman in modest dress.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: dionysiandame]
    #22355333 - 10/09/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

muslims are fucking retarded. Muhammed is a goatfucker.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: ShortbusExplosion] * 2
    #22355531 - 10/09/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck the Niqab. Fuck Religion.

State law trumps religious "rights" period. I don't give a fuck what you believe, but I'm not going to tolerate you being able to refuse being ID'ed because of the stupid shit you were brainwashed to believe 5000 miles away in a retarded country. State laws a real life things. Your superstitions are not. So fuck off.

That was me being polite about it.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22355559 - 10/09/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Referring the Vancouver,  the traffic is so fucking bad and everything seems crowded and busy. Just because the states is over populated doesn't mean we should be too.. But I do get that the prairies and maritimes would be in need of people. And we may have a larger land mass but compared to the states, how much more land do we have that is not habitable?




City life does get crowded.  Montréal was at times overwhelming.

If 10% of Canada is habitable land, that is still in the range of something like double the size of California.

The idea that there are people harassing or attacking women in our streets for what type of clothing they choose to wear feels less Canadian to me than someone choosing to cover up for personal reasons.
Suppose, however, that could be tied closely to the fact that I am not religious.  People who associate Christian values with Canadian values may hold an interpretation of their culture being at war with an invading culture. :shrug:

The unfortunate aspect of the Conservative stance on the issue is that they feel continually fighting the courts to be the best option.
Since the courts struck down their objection to the case, the government has announced that they will be making further efforts to ban the niqab and ban covering of the face at citizenship ceremonies.  This will only lead to new challenges and court cases.
They already took this approach with the cannabis laws in their previous years, and those were struck down once again just recently.  Not to mention court cases that came up in response to when they changed the medical legislation as well.
Who is paying for all this?

It works to the Conservative advantage to push the issue right now though -- Québec, in particular, made legislation regarding all religious symbols a few years ago.  It is a relatively safe issue for them to square off against the NDP on, and the NDP had a strong showing in Québec last time around.
There also seems to be a rhetoric that Mulcair's slide in the polls recently has been due to the niqab issue -- if orange voters keep swinging over to Liberal it may not work as much to the Conservative advantage as they would hope though.


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