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InvisibleMagicMush123
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what do you think about niqabs? * 1
    #22349612 - 10/08/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

For the record I don't have any problems with Muslims or religions in general,  you can believe in what ever you want to... But I do have problems with people migrating to a different country and expecting us to accommodate to their culture and way of life. It doesn't work like that, you want to to live here, then you accommodate to us and our culture, or else go back to your own fucking country. Probably the only thing I agree with Stephen Harper on. I do think if someone chooses to wear it they should take it off for citizenship ceremonies, public event's,  entering banks etc... What do you guys think?


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #22349625 - 10/08/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

People can do whatever they want, oppression isn't the answer. Culture is diversity and diversity is what makes it possible to have beautiful things.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22349638 - 10/08/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think they're weird and dehumanizing. I can't imagine why anyone would wear them willingly. :shrug:

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But I do have problems with people migrating to a different country and expecting us to accommodate to their culture and way of life. It doesn't work like that, you want to to live here, then you accommodate to us and our culture, or else go back to your own fucking country.




Agreed. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure if an American woman moved somewhere in the middle east where it's traditional to wear them and she chose not to, she'd get a lot of shit for it.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22349648 - 10/08/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

But covers their entire face and they think they shouldn't have to take of off for driver licensing pics, citizenship ceremonies,  entering banks... Fuck us non Muslim folk can't even enter a bank with a hat/ sunglasses for example..  And we have to our hats off for licensing pics, even if it shows our face..


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Eminence]
    #22349652 - 10/08/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's a pretty childish outlook, those above violence and discrimination should seek out ways to be a positive influence rather than assuming the best course of action is to fling shit like the rest of the monkeys.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22349667 - 10/08/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just saying they should have to remove it for certain things and them put it back on... We are giving to much power to religions. Religion is above law now.. ( not a big deal) and example of this how I would get a ticket for riding a motorcycle without a helmet,  but someone with a turbin wouldn't


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22349704 - 10/08/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Imagine if the first American immigrants had molded themselves to the ways of Americans native peoples, things would be so different these days.



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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Lucis]
    #22349727 - 10/08/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It goes so much further than that tho.. It wasnt long ago you would hear "merry Christmas" but you don't now because retailers don't want to "offend " people that don't celebrate it... I suggest if they don't want to hear or celebrate it, then they shouldn't get the stat holiday and should go to work :shrug:


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #22349848 - 10/08/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think its acceptable sometimes. Though im not really aware of any instances of someone using a niqab as a guise involving a criminal activity, the whole thing is waiting to be exploited.

Plus the fact that they expect to be able to wear it in ID pictures is ridiculous. Ffs look at this garbage theyre getting away with.





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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: JvF]
    #22349872 - 10/08/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly I can see a non Muslim, using as cover while robbing a bank or gas station with one on.. Until that happens we won't have serious opposition


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #22349881 - 10/08/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm just saying they should have to remove it for certain things and them put it back on... We are giving to much power to religions. Religion is above law now.. ( not a big deal) and example of this how I would get a ticket for riding a motorcycle without a helmet,  but someone with a turbin wouldn't



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It goes so much further than that tho.. It wasnt long ago you would hear "merry Christmas" but you don't now because retailers don't want to "offend " people that don't celebrate it... I suggest if they don't want to hear or celebrate it, then they shouldn't get the stat holiday and should go to work :shrug:




Do not take offense to the term Christmas, but also do not celebrate the holiday as the birthday of the son of God either.
Not sure why so much power should be given to a religion that it has to bear a namesake when the day off could just be a random day off. :shrug:

Anyone who chooses to wear a turban instead of a motorcycle helmet deserves whatever they get though, and it stands to be worse than a ticket.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Eminence]
    #22349893 - 10/08/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure if an American woman moved somewhere in the middle east where it's traditional to wear them and she chose not to, she'd get a lot of shit for it.



As I understand, it's a bit more nuanced. In countries like Saudi Arava where the niqab is quite popular, it's expected of western women that they wear a headscarf in public, but not a niqab. The niqab is specific to a few rather strict interpretations of the Islam and it's up to the community of practitioners of that specific variant to wear a niqab. It's not required of western women unless they join such a community of course. Like in the west, Arabian countries expect you to adjust in some ways, but there is some leeway in general. Obviously, you can also expect to be discriminated against for being a westerner, just like you can expect to be discriminated against for being an Arab in a western country. The degree to which this happens may vary of course.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: koraks]
    #22350327 - 10/08/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I really don't care. I'm not for persecuting groups for no good reason, but I also don't give a shit about religions of any description. Everyone should follow the same rules, whatever you 'believe'.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22350339 - 10/08/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Culture is the opposite of diversity.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 1
    #22350343 - 10/08/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The word culture wouldn't exist without different ways of life.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #22350568 - 10/08/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I cant belive people dont see its fucking conservative bullshit.its complete politic manipulation an people take the bait like fuckin retards. Only 2 people since 2011 had refused to enter with without the niqab . And for your info its only for attending the official ceremony. Pictures on identification card never was the issue .

I sincrly dgaf they wear a hat at a fuckin ceremony . This whole debate is stupid as fck, its only a political show going

Edit: If harper wins with this tactic ,canada will be officialy as retard as the us


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22350594 - 10/08/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

IDK much about harper, but is he the equivelent of trump? Or more like George bush?


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Achillita]
    #22350607 - 10/08/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As in public perception? More like Obama.


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22350609 - 10/08/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't quite remember obama making a big deal about the muslims in the country :lol:


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Re: what do you think about niqabs? [Re: Achillita]
    #22350655 - 10/08/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

hes probably one of the worst prime minister we ever had, hes really US style, also economy and racism seems to be his only arguments right now.

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