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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: superbob57]
#22353290 - 10/09/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rebel, by now you are definitely physically addicted. The only way to stop is to enter some form of treatment or else you will just never stop this cycle you have been in. Im tellin ya man..go to a detox..its only a 5 day detox. You get a good amount of a librium and rest..before you know it you will be leaving. Good luck brother
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22353300 - 10/09/15 06:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: Nobody in my family had any type of hair loss and I've read there's a link between alcohol and hair loss. I've been drinking very heavily for the last 5 or 6 years. its the depletion of certain nutrients. Either way I drink way too much and it's not good for me 
your habits may accelerate what was going to happen anyways. where is the hair falling out mostly? is the the front and maybe the crown? hair loss due to toxins, drugs etc will cause hair to fall out all over your body.
also, is your hair longer than it used to be? I got really paranoid when I started being able pull out dozens of strands at once when my hair had gotten really long. Turns out when your hair is long and curly, the hairs that normally detach everyday get tangled up and don't simply drift away unnoticed, and when you run your fingers or wash your hair, it all comes out at once.
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Moonshoe]
#22353335 - 10/09/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Its western medical science that has proven that milk thistle and SAMe work, double blind, placebo controlled clinical studies bro.
and you dont have that study posted yet?
the only thing it's been proven to do is to work as an antidote for poisoning by Amanita phalloides
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Moonshoe]
#22353367 - 10/09/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: "Wet brain is another way of describing a condition called Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome. This is a type of dementia that people going through end stage alcoholism might have to deal with. It is caused by a deficiency in vitamin B1 (thiamine)."
https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=wet+brain
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Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome is a brain disorder caused by thiamine deficiency. Wernicke-Korsakoff is actually two disorders. Wernicke's disease involves damage to nerves in the central and peripheral nervous systems. It is often caused by malnutrition due to alcoholism. Korsakoff syndrome is characterized by memory problems and nerve damage. High doses of thiamine can improve muscle coordination and confusion, but rarely improves memory loss.
know what this means? it means homeless alcoholics are at risk because they're the ones that are foregoing food for booze and the really amazing crazy thing, simply eating gives an adult the 1.2mg of B1 that they need because B1 is in everything, literally... especially in meats
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: koods]
#22353526 - 10/09/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Rebelutionsssss said: Nobody in my family had any type of hair loss and I've read there's a link between alcohol and hair loss. I've been drinking very heavily for the last 5 or 6 years. its the depletion of certain nutrients. Either way I drink way too much and it's not good for me 
your habits may accelerate what was going to happen anyways. where is the hair falling out mostly? is the the front and maybe the crown? hair loss due to toxins, drugs etc will cause hair to fall out all over your body.
also, is your hair longer than it used to be? I got really paranoid when I started being able pull out dozens of strands at once when my hair had gotten really long. Turns out when your hair is long and curly, the hairs that normally detach everyday get tangled up and don't simply drift away unnoticed, and when you run your fingers or wash your hair, it all comes out at once.
That actually makes me feel better about my situation my hair is long and nappy as fuck right now and I'd lose a bunch running my hands through my hair in the shower. I was starting to freak out
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22353605 - 10/09/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That actually makes me feel better about my situation my hair is long and nappy
Racist!
When the hair is longer, you noticed them more as well
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22354050 - 10/09/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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" Several scientific studies suggest that substances in milk thistle (especially a flavonoid called silymarin) protect the liver from toxins, including certain drugs, such as acetaminophen (Tylenol), which can cause liver damage in high doses. Silymarin has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. And it may help the liver repair itself by growing new cells.
Milk thistle is often suggested as a treatment for alcoholic hepatitis and alcoholic cirrhosis. Most studies show milk thistle improves liver function and increases survival in people with cirrhosis or chronic hepatitis."
Rambaldi A, Jacobs BP, Iaquinto G, Gluud C. Milk thistle for alcoholic and/or hepatitis B or C liver diseases -- a systematic cochrane hepato-biliary group review with meta-analyses of randomized clinical trials. Am J Gastroenterol. 2005 Nov;100(11):2583-2591. Review.
https://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/milk-thistle
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Moonshoe]
#22356225 - 10/09/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Has pris EVER admitted he was wrong? This dude just will not quit...ever..even when defeat has busted a nut right on his face...dude just licks his lips and keeps arguing..
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22360397 - 10/10/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Rebel, by now you are definitely physically addicted. The only way to stop is to enter some form of treatment or else you will just never stop this cycle you have been in. Im tellin ya man..go to a detox..its only a 5 day detox. You get a good amount of a librium and rest..before you know it you will be leaving. Good luck brother
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Moonshoe said: Take Milk thistle, S adenosyl methionine and B vitamin Complex, it will buy you some time. My uncle is bald for the same reason.
I have read about alcoholism and rebel I highly suggest you take the above
Also; take piracetam, above three, cdp choline, and maybe use etiz or GHB to wean off alc
And ya get a 5 day detox going
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: topdog82]
#22361939 - 10/11/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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5 days off drinking? then what happens on day 6?
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Has pris EVER admitted he was wrong? This dude just will not quit...ever..even when defeat has busted a nut right on his face...dude just licks his lips and keeps arguing..
I kind of agree with him, you dont need mulit-vitamins either if you're eating pretty much... any kind of food. Unless you have a specific reason to want to turn your piss bright yellow then yes take 20 vitamin B tablets.
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: DustJuice]
#22361958 - 10/11/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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pretty much... any kind of food.
Are you saying any kind of food has the vitamins people need to stay nourished?

There are so many factors with nutrition, some vitamins absorb better or worse certain ways too not to mention people fall behind a lot and end up deficient.
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Unless you have a specific reason to want to turn your piss bright yellow then yes take 20 vitamin B tablets.
Or you could take 1-3 tablets daily like usually recommended to boost your vitamin levels, that is especially important if you en up deficient.
Vitamin and general nutrients deficiency is actually very common now a days with how terrible many peoples diets have become...
Abusing substances that hurt specific vitamin intake can be a serious thing too, idk about alcohol but it is one of the main dangers of chronic nitrous abuse.
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: musiclover420]
#22382592 - 10/15/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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nitrous depletes vitamin B levels. Study?
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: DustJuice]
#22382600 - 10/15/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So weird shit guys lately the parts of my hair that have been balding have been thickening up I hope I don't have cancer or some shit. This is hella weird
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: DustJuice]
#22382614 - 10/15/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Try using google.....
Here is a quote from wiki:
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Long-term exposure can cause vitamin B12 deficiency
Here is the study:
Neurologic Degeneration Associated With Nitrous Oxide Anesthesia in Patients With Vitamin B12 Deficiency
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Nitrous oxide produces irreversible oxidation to the Co++ and Co+++ forms that renders vitamin B12 inactive. Five cases (four from the literature and one new case) are presented in which patients unsuspected of having vitamin B12 deficiency developed subacute combined degeneration of the spinal cord following nitrous oxide anesthesia.
Its not that hard to do research yourself, took me like 30 seconds to copy/paste all this and would not have taken you much longer
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: musiclover420]
#22382712 - 10/15/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yep alcohol or nitrous abuse calls for b vitamin supplementation other wise with nitrous you get ascending neuropathy. It happened to my friend. Started with numb legs . It can be fatal if it continues unchecked.
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Moonshoe]
#22382767 - 10/15/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Yep alcohol or nitrous abuse calls for b vitamin supplementation other wise with nitrous you get ascending neuropathy. It happened to my friend. Started with numb legs . It can be fatal if it continues unchecked.
Moon has it right. Always can count on moon for good quality health/responsible drug use info 
I would say also that you should try and look into the racetams. I feel it helped me feel normal after long and pointless alcohol binges. I doubt people are gonna take my advice, but its worth a mention
As for nitrous; just dont overdo it too much
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22382791 - 10/15/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said:

B vitamin complex doesn't work? Thats absurd. Its an essential vitamin and alcoholics are chronically deficient in it, which leads to a lot of the severe cognitive problems that they develop. All alcoholics should take B vitamin complex.
what's the milk thistle for?
none of this holistic horse shit works, if it did we never would have needed modern medicine and everyone would live to be 150 years old, the bulk of these vitamins you take you just shit them right back out
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/vitamin-b12-the-energy-panacea/
Frankly I'm with moonshoe on this one. Both SAMe and b vitamins play important roles in methylation which is necessary for gene regulation at a variety of levels including RNA, DNA, and protein modification as well as several other metabolic and detoxification processes. Chronic stressors such as the barrage of constant metabolic insults from modern day living can deplete b-12 and slow this cycle down in susceptible individuals. I know less about milk thistle but the hepatoprotective properties are well documented. I don't know how particularly relevant Moonshoes recommendation is to the OPs situation though I suppose it could support healthy immune and liver function which are big issues with alcoholism. But for the love of god stop reading sciencebasedmedicine and start reading the actual science. Sciencebasedmedicine, quack watch, and the likes are just as out of touch with reality and politically driven as naturalnews. As for needing modern medicine, believe it or not but many medical practices are based on very poor science and actually lead to further deterioration of homeostasis in the long run. I'm not slamming it though. We've done great things with it, but don't fall prey to "faithbasedmedicine".
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22382798 - 10/15/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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know what this means? it means homeless alcoholics are at risk because they're the ones that are foregoing food for booze and the really amazing crazy thing, simply eating gives an adult the 1.2mg of B1 that they need because B1 is in everything, literally... especially in meats
The truth is that final stage (third stage) alcoholics physiology will actually kick out any food they eat via diarrhea or puking just to get to the alcohol, which it fully craves at this point. Food becomes a hindrance...There is a book called "Under the Influence" that explains how alcohol affects the mind and body at various stages.
Milk thistle has shown promise in helping the liver to regenerate, hence it is used to treat mushroom poisoning...but won't do much good if the liver keeps getting bombarded with booze.
I have seen men with wet brain at a VA hospital and it is pathetic....nurses changing their diapers for them..that can happen even though you think it could never happen to me. If you are alcoholic and do not treat it...nothing good will happen.
As far as alcohol thinning the blood...yes, it does, but it also dilates the blood vessels which restrict flow.....that is why it is easier to die of hypothermia while drunk and passed out in the cold.
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: musiclover420]
#22407631 - 10/20/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here is the study:
Neurologic Degeneration Associated With Nitrous Oxide Anesthesia in Patients With Vitamin B12 Deficiency
wtf for anesthesia? thats hooked up to nitrous with a tap I had different quantities in mind.
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Re: So I figured out what's making me lose my hair [Re: DustJuice]
#22409014 - 10/20/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could have been other factors. Like say those people already had trouble with vitamin b3 then were given too much for anesthesia.
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in Patients With Vitamin B12 Deficiency
They are not very clear as to if they mean pre existing deficiencies or ones caused by the anesthesia leading to the issues.
I had heard it was only an issue with chronic nitrous abuse.
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