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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #22393043 - 10/17/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

When we care more about test scores in math and science than anything else we create an environment that leads to drug abuse (namely stimulants).  When we have kids literally killing themselves over bad grades I'd say our priorities are fucked up and our kids are being traumatized.

http://www.globaleducationmagazine.com/education-suicide/

And yes, Hong Kong and other Asian countries do continue to rank high, top when we consider only science and math.

Socialist countries (not socialized) also rank very high.  Up until 2012 Finland ranked best in the world.  Their approach is much more relaxed and interactive rather than test driven.  Shorter school days, less homework, more breaks, etc.  We also see less use of stimulants , both prescribed or otherwise, in Socialist countries (and really in all of Europe).

They also get more out of their education system than other countries, including Asian ones.  In other words, socialist countries are leveraging their education better to increase economic output.

https://agenda.weforum.org/2015/05/which-country-comes-top-for-skills-and-education/

So in closing, I think socialist education sounds awesome.  I would have loved to go to one of these schools and would love for my kids to go.  Asian schools sound shitty, stressful, and not fun.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22393167 - 10/17/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I simply can't see where Bernie is as bad as jeb or the bitch. They are both business as usual, bribe taking sellouts. You think Bernie sold out to the unions? The bitch will make him look like a union hater if she slithers in. Jeb is so crooked he can't walk straight. Jeb is the gop that would definitely make me have to go with bernie if he got the nomination. Jeb is against all drugs including medical pot and thinks the nsa should do even more spying on citizens. If its jeb vs hill, vote third party because we are fucked.

Bernie is the best of the dems, period. Goofball biden is obumble light and we don't need any more incompetent fuckups in office.




Agree that the bitch is 10x worse than Bernie.

So I have a choice:

"NSA spying, War on Drugs, Taxes remain the same" or

"No NSA spying, No War on Drugs, Yes War on Global Warming, and Taxes double for every American"

Remember these are just promises, too. Not necessarily will happen. Obowma promised a lot.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22393221 - 10/17/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

>Obowma promised a lot.

The liar in chief.

But we have more choices than that, don't forget trump. He will not jack our taxes up, he will stand up to these countries dumping on us like china. He will put an end or try hard to end most of the stupid dem and gop policies that are killing business as well as the average person.

And he won't bow to foreign leaders.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22393234 - 10/17/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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>Obowma promised a lot.

The liar in chief.

But we have more choices than that, don't forget trump. He will not jack our taxes up, he will stand up to these countries dumping on us like china. He will put an end or try hard to end most of the stupid dem and gop policies that are killing business as well as the average person.

And he won't bow to foreign leaders.





Fucking Jeb sucks, he's for open borders amnesty too (hey a lot like Bernie whaddya know!). What a scumbucket. I agree with you, Fuck Repubs and Dems.

I'm voting for Trump :cool:


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22393243 - 10/17/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Bernie's promised little and what he has promised would fall under executive authority.

Double taxes for everyone is shit you made up.  He's outlined how to pay for his plans and raising taxes on the poor and middle class ain't there.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22393249 - 10/17/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Bernie's promised little and what he has promised would fall under executive authority.

Double taxes for everyone is shit you made up.  He's outlined how to pay for his plans and raising taxes on the poor and middle class ain't there.




LOL read the OP next time, I posted the Eisenhower tax statement by Bernie then showed the tax rates during Eisenhower.

Can you read? Or just not graphs?

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Bernie Sanders: Let's Return to Tax Policy of "Radical Socialist Dwight D. Eisenhower"
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-sanders-lets-return-tax-policy-radical-socialist-dwight-d-eisenhower

Dwight D. Eisenhower January 20, 1953 – January 20, 1961






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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: burgerbrain] * 1
    #22393590 - 10/17/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Liberals live in a fantasy land, charts, graphs, facts, don't really mean much to them...

Other than that, the education system in America is run by liberals and leftists, that's a fact


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22393699 - 10/17/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Liberals live in a fantasy land, charts, graphs, facts, don't really mean much to them...

Other than that, the education system in America is run by liberals and leftists, that's a fact





Seriously. The guy had the second reply and he still didn't read the fucking OP.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22393716 - 10/17/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

^ Tiniest echo chamber ever


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22393737 - 10/17/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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^ Tiniest echo chamber ever




^Tiniest you know what


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: burgerbrain] * 1
    #22393775 - 10/17/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
^ Tiniest echo chamber ever




^Tiniest you know what




I do notice that guy never actually adds anything to the convo, just pops in, makes some dumb, mildly amusing comment, and off he goes, believing he's the funniest guy around... I actually wonder if he's a standup comedian...


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: burgerbrain] * 1
    #22393786 - 10/17/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So bernout is in favor of open borders? I didn't know that. Fuck that shit. I also hear very little about his policy on drugs, especially medical mj. What are his pro business ideas, or does he have any?


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22393858 - 10/17/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Quote:

burgerbrain said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
^ Tiniest echo chamber ever




^Tiniest you know what




I do notice that guy never actually adds anything to the convo, just pops in, makes some dumb, mildly amusing comment, and off he goes, believing he's the funniest guy around... I actually wonder if he's a standup comedian...




:lmafo:

Everyone here, including most of the conservatives, think you two are idiots.

You make uninformed posts and then high five each other like you've done something besides lose even more credibility.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22393884 - 10/17/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

burgerbrain said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
^ Tiniest echo chamber ever




^Tiniest you know what




I do notice that guy never actually adds anything to the convo, just pops in, makes some dumb, mildly amusing comment, and off he goes, believing he's the funniest guy around... I actually wonder if he's a standup comedian...




He voted for Obowma's lies so that's pretty fucking funny.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22393901 - 10/17/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So bernout is in favor of open borders? I didn't know that. Fuck that shit. I also hear very little about his policy on drugs, especially medical mj. What are his pro business ideas, or does he have any?




Yes he is, here's where he panders to La Raza just like Hitlery: "Immigration Reform" means amnesty at the very least. I did not watch the 25minute video but he says a lot more shit just like this below:


"I want to focus on three issues. I want to talk about the stain of racism in this country. I want to talk about the need for real immigration reform. (applause) And I want to talk about economic policies that address the grotesque levels of income and wealth inequality in America (applause) and the need to create an economy that works for all of us and not just a handful of billionaires. (applause)"

"Where do we go from here… I believe there should be a responsible path to citizenship so individuals can come out of the shadows (applause), people can walk the streets (applause) with safety, people can hold their heads high. (applause)"

"The Senate bill contained the provisions of the Dream Act, which I strongly support, and which would offer the opportunity of permanent residency and eventual citizenship of young people who are brought to the United States as children. (applause)"

"This includes taking measures that are currently available, including using the presidential power of executive order when it is appropriate. (applause)

While the Senate passed the Dream Act in its immigration bill, and the House has not acted, I think President Obama did exactly the right thing with his executive order for childhood arrivals. That was a good first step, but it should be expanded. Deferred action should include the parents of citizens (applause), the parents of legal permanent residents (applause) and the parents of dreamers. (applause)"

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/why-bernie-sanders-got-twice-much-applause-hillary-clinton-when-he-spoke-la-raza

Bernie Sanders Speech to National Council of La Raza



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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: burgerbrain] * 1
    #22393952 - 10/17/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He also told them that illegals should be eligible for Obamacare subsidies...


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22393993 - 10/17/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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He also told them that illegals should be eligible for Obamacare subsidies...




No he didn't.

This is why nobody respects you or BB. You post outright bullshit as fact.

He wants illegals to be able to register on the exchanges but he is AGAINST illegals getting any obamacare subsidies.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #22394024 - 10/17/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

>Everyone here, including most of the conservatives, think you two are idiots.

Everyone? I think a couple have said that. Name me some conservatives that said it?


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22394056 - 10/17/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nobody has to say it to think it. There's a reason why those two are either laughed at, discredited, or ignored.


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Re: Remember when Bernie said the USA should be more like Norway? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #22394105 - 10/17/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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He also told them that illegals should be eligible for Obamacare subsidies...




No he didn't.

This is why nobody respects you or BB. You post outright bullshit as fact.

He wants illegals to be able to register on the exchanges but he is AGAINST illegals getting any obamacare subsidies.




Yeah he did, it was implied when he said they should have access to Obamacare, subsidies ARE part of Obama care, or didn't you know that? And I'd love to see a source where HE, told laraza no subsidies, and don't cite some unknown staffer because that's BS, and you know it,

And last time I checked, I'm ignored by zero members, maybe you should be the first...


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