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Offlinebenjamin
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Weak spore water?
    #2234831 - 01/11/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I ordered some spore syringes, and my first attempt was totally unsuccessful. The spores took a long time to germinate (2wks) and this made me impatient and i probably screwed up by modifying my incubation chamber. The ended up colonizing a little bit, maybe at best 1/4 of a 1qt jar before stalling and getting messed up and contaminated, but that's beside the point. I'm looking at pictures of other peoples syringes and they seem to have a lot more spores in them. I could hardly see the spores in my syringes and i was concerned there might not even be enough of them or any at all. So in any case my question ultimately is will i see germination of these b+ spores in the typical 3-5 days or if the water is actually weak will it take longer to show any signs of growth.

I'm inclined to say i screwed up the last attempt by having a poor incubator and possibly not enough moisture in my jars. But this time i presoaked my grain and the grains look nice and plump but not soggy. I inoculated on the 9th of january so i can't say whether the grow has gone better this time but i'm also inclined to think it will. I heavily modified my substrate recipe and made a whole new incubator. So... will weak spore water take longer to show signs of germination? or will the germs just be sparse?

btw, i had another question about gas exchanges i posted here if anyone wants to help me out and take a look. Thanks!


Edited by benjamin (01/11/04 04:05 PM)


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: benjamin]
    #2234850 - 01/11/04 04:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Spores are microscopic, and they are only visible to the naked eye when seen in large clumps (which you often see in syringes). If you bought from a reputable vendor (any of this site's sponsors) then there should be more than enough spores in the solution.


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: benjamin]
    #2234854 - 01/11/04 04:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You dont have to be able to see alot of spores,first of all the black clumps you see in other peoples syringes are actually many many many spores clustered together,not individuals.individual spores you wont see.Of course more is better,but it only takes 1 spore to germinate and your on your way.Patience is a virtue.


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: ghostcook]
    #2234864 - 01/11/04 04:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

actually it takes more then just one spore. at the very least it takes 2, but for 2 monokaryotes to be compatible, mate, germinate, and have the ability to fruit is pretty rare.


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: ghostcook]
    #2234868 - 01/11/04 04:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yea i didn't buy from a vendor on your list. I got mine from a place called mindexcursions or something, god i don't even remember. I know i can't see the spores but what i meant was the clusters. Other syringes i've seen are like brown because there are so many spore clusters. so basically i could get it done faster with more potent water, but i should still see germination in the same amount of time regardless of potency is what i'm hearing. thanks a lot guys!


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: benjamin]
    #2235108 - 01/11/04 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It may have been good... noob's often screw up. Don't fret, try again, and purchase from a reputable vendor. Then, if you fail, you'll know it is your fault. My current favorite vendor is The Hawks Eye www.thehawkseye.com . They have the most info about their strains. I like reading about the spores I want... and you WILL see clumps of spores.

www.Ralphstersspores.com has the best selection... but you must find your own info. Mention your free strain of the month syringe, and Ralphster will give you a FREE spore syringe with any order.

Sporeworks www.sporeworks.com ... well they are awesome. They don't have the biggest cube selection, or the most information, but, you can do all your shopping at once. They also, carry the mexicana a, b and Jalisco strains. They carry MANY exotics and mycobags! Sporeworks also, takes credit cards.

And, I bet all these vendors are cheaper than your last vendor was.

Make sure to get some cool spores... all cubes are ez to grow. Get the ones that interest you most. Some other strains, like mexicana are ez to grow as well.

Good luck.


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: Rose]
    #2235150 - 01/11/04 07:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks alot man, i really really really can't tell you how much I appreciate the help, i'm so frustrated but I'm not giving up and I think i'm gettin on the right track thanks to the community. thanks so much.


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: Rose]
    #2235154 - 01/11/04 07:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

nice post!


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: benjamin]
    #2236572 - 01/12/04 09:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

www.myco-supply.com $10 for any 12cc syringe they sell.


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Re: Weak spore water? [Re: luigi]
    #2236601 - 01/12/04 10:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That site is stealing alot of others pics....
Including mine.
Most vendors don't like that...


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