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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22346849 - 10/07/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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This arguing is pointless. I was going to quote a number of posts since my last visit, but what would that accomplish? Nothing.

The fact is that both sides generally agree that the same problems exist, but they don't agree on how to solve them, or the root cause of the problem. Nobody is going to convince anyone else, so I don't see any reason to continue.




Given that you pretty much just post snappy little slogans that you've bought hook, line and sinker and keep parroting them, your comments won't be missed.





Is that what you think...

lol

You don't know the definition of irony, do you?

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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22346883 - 10/07/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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theyll figure it out




You're actually right about that, to avoid the severe penalties that would need to be implemented to make your plan work, they would limit the number of units available to comply with their employee mandates, it would lead to shortages of all sorts of products, everything would be limited, hey wasn't it BS that said we have too many kinds of deodorant?

All those posts you wrote about how great America is, that's all due to free market policies, not socialism, communism, Marxism or whatever the hell other liberal ideologies you're looking to take over...




You live in a mind of intense fear and worry.  There will be no shortages.  Markets will continue to work.  Supply and demand.  Tax incentives to encourage fair pay policies and more manufacturing in America will not destroy America it will, instead, strengthen us.

You worry too much.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: bennylava]
    #22346889 - 10/07/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Is that what you think...

lol

You don't know the definition of irony, do you?




You obviously don't because you'll find no slogans coming from me.  Not one.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22346916 - 10/07/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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All those posts you wrote about how great America is, that's all due to free market policies, not socialism, communism, Marxism or whatever the hell other liberal ideologies you're looking to take over...




"Free markets" is a slogan. We don't have that.  We have collusion between global multi nationals and government ... both at the sovereign and international level. 

Large corporations discourage competition.

What made America great was a powerful university system, a better legal/justice system than most other nations and a huge reserve of national resources.  Of course, America attracted a lot of very motivated people and this made a big difference too. 

Our economic explosion after WW2 was do mostly to the reality that the global manufacturing infrastructure was in shambles except in the US. 

Read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" if you really want to understand how collusion between government, military and business have exploited global resources to flood America with revenues.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22346940 - 10/07/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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theyll figure it out




You're actually right about that, to avoid the severe penalties that would need to be implemented to make your plan work, they would limit the number of units available to comply with their employee mandates, it would lead to shortages of all sorts of products, everything would be limited, hey wasn't it BS that said we have too many kinds of deodorant?

All those posts you wrote about how great America is, that's all due to free market policies, not socialism, communism, Marxism or whatever the hell other liberal ideologies you're looking to take over...




You live in a mind of intense fear and worry.  There will be no shortages.  Markets will continue to work.  Supply and demand.  Tax incentives to encourage fair pay policies and more manufacturing in America will not destroy America it will, instead, strengthen us.

You worry too much.




You have more faith than I do.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22347003 - 10/07/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You have more faith than I do.




Over the last 100 years, we have seen a huge revolution in energy, information and communications technology.  This has led to a global distribution explosion of resources, products, services, etc. 

What we're going to see in the next 50 years is a much more significant revolution in manufacturing ... nano manufacturing is going to change virtually everything in much the same way computers brought us from rotary telephones to computers, the internet, iPhones and electro sparko communication on every level.

Nano manufacturing will turn dirt into substances far more valuable than gold or diamonds ... new fabrics and membranes stronger than steel, more efficient than fiber optics ... more useful than anything we can imagine.  We're talking manufacturing at the molecular level ... of super foods ... building materials ...

This eliminates scarcity.  This creates a type of abundance that is, right now, unimaginable.  It's coming ... can't be stopped.  It scares the shit out of global corporations and I believe they're in their last inning of a long power grab they've been working for centuries.  It's about to come to an end.  Just as in the 70's/80's there was no way to imagine what information technology would do we just can't imagine what the elimination of scarce resources will do.  It will change everything.  We will be able to manufacture fuels far more efficient than anything we've ever imagined ... at extremely low cost ... literally from dirt.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22347022 - 10/07/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You have more faith than I do.




Over the last 100 years, we have seen a huge revolution in energy, information and communications technology.  This has led to a global distribution explosion of resources, products, services, etc. 

What we're going to see in the next 50 years is a much more significant revolution in manufacturing ... nano manufacturing is going to change virtually everything in much the same way computers brought us from rotary telephones to computers, the internet, iPhones and electro sparko communication on every level.

Nano manufacturing will turn dirt into substances far more valuable than gold or diamonds ... new fabrics and membranes stronger than steel, more efficient than fiber optics ... more useful than anything we can imagine.  We're talking manufacturing at the molecular level ... of super foods ... building materials ...

This eliminates scarcity.  This creates a type of abundance that is, right now, unimaginable.  It's coming ... can't be stopped.  It scares the shit out of global corporations and I believe they're in their last inning of a long power grab they've been working for centuries.  It's about to come to an end.  Just as in the 70's/80's there was no way to imagine what information technology would do we just can't imagine what the elimination of scarce resources will do.  It will change everything.  We will be able to manufacture fuels far more efficient than anything we've ever imagined ... at extremely low cost ... literally from dirt.




Nano technology won't be capable of doing all of that for a long time. At least 80 years. That's star trek shit. :smile:

However, I think that Nuclear Fusion is very promising and not too far off. That's the technology that I would look to in the near future as our 'saving grace'.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22347057 - 10/07/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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All those posts you wrote about how great America is, that's all due to free market policies, not socialism, communism, Marxism or whatever the hell other liberal ideologies you're looking to take over...




"Free markets" is a slogan.




You call it whatever you want, its an idea. If that's what you're talking about, you've been spouting "slogans" the entire time. Slogans... lol

For example, forget about our society for a moment. Take the "free market" of ancient sumaria. The farmers would grow their crops, kill their livestock, and bring their daughters old enough to be sold, to market in the city. When it was time. So they're going to be competing, with the other farmers from all around. The ones who could make it there. That's a very old, and very simple idea of "free market". They can choose to go, they can choose not to go. They can raise prices, they can lower them. They're "free" to do as they choose, as its their merchandise, and no one else's. There, you've just received a free education.

Also, you don't read very well either. Have I been saying this whole time, that its going smoothly and perfectly in modern times? Hell no. You would think you would be able to tell from my posts, what with all the "end campaign contributions" talk, that I do NOT think the free market idea is being applied in our society. More like the monopoly and corruption idea. But just because illegal and criminal activity is going on and the highest levels, doesn't mean it can never be stopped, and have the system returned to what its supposed to be. Hell it actually happens sometimes. Nvdia and ATi (or was it AMD...) were caught price fixing and fined heavily for it, back in....2008? Can't remember. So yeah. Nobody here knows what you're talking about.

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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: bennylava]
    #22347118 - 10/07/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:


All those posts you wrote about how great America is, that's all due to free market policies, not socialism, communism, Marxism or whatever the hell other liberal ideologies you're looking to take over...




"Free markets" is a slogan.




You call it whatever you want, its an idea. If that's what you're talking about, you've been spouting "slogans" the entire time. Slogans... lol

For example, forget about our society for a moment. Take the "free market" of ancient sumaria. The farmers would grow their crops, kill their livestock, and bring their daughters old enough to be sold, to market in the city. When it was time. So they're going to be competing, with the other farmers from all around. The ones who could make it there. That's a very old, and very simple idea of "free market". They can choose to go, they can choose not to go. They can raise prices, they can lower them. They're "free" to do as they choose, as its their merchandise, and no one else's. There, you've just received a free education.

Also, you don't read very well either. Have I been saying this whole time, that its going smoothly and perfectly in modern times? Hell no. You would think you would be able to tell from my posts, what with all the "end campaign contributions" talk, that I do NOT think the free market idea is being applied in our society. More like the monopoly and corruption idea. But just because illegal and criminal activity is going on and the highest levels, doesn't mean it can never be stopped, and have the system returned to what its supposed to be. Hell it actually happens sometimes. Nvdia and ATi (or was it AMD...) were caught price fixing and fined heavily for it, back in....2008? Can't remember. So yeah. Nobody here knows what you're talking about.




If you don't agree, your logic is just "slogans"

These people talk themselves in circles convincing themselves they are right, they are blind to the fact the very policies they are advocating will bring about exactly what they are trying to prevent, even though you can see these same policies and the disastrous effects elsewhere in the world, they just think the "right people haven't been in charge" it's truly mind boggling to listen to it...

***insert slogan here


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: bennylava]
    #22347398 - 10/07/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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bennylava said:
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KauaiOrca said:


All those posts you wrote about how great America is, that's all due to free market policies, not socialism, communism, Marxism or whatever the hell other liberal ideologies you're looking to take over...




"Free markets" is a slogan.




You call it whatever you want, its an idea. If that's what you're talking about, you've been spouting "slogans" the entire time. Slogans... lol

For example, forget about our society for a moment. Take the "free market" of ancient sumaria. The farmers would grow their crops, kill their livestock, and bring their daughters old enough to be sold, to market in the city. When it was time. So they're going to be competing, with the other farmers from all around. The ones who could make it there. That's a very old, and very simple idea of "free market". They can choose to go, they can choose not to go. They can raise prices, they can lower them. They're "free" to do as they choose, as its their merchandise, and no one else's. There, you've just received a free education.

Also, you don't read very well either. Have I been saying this whole time, that its going smoothly and perfectly in modern times? Hell no. You would think you would be able to tell from my posts, what with all the "end campaign contributions" talk, that I do NOT think the free market idea is being applied in our society. More like the monopoly and corruption idea. But just because illegal and criminal activity is going on and the highest levels, doesn't mean it can never be stopped, and have the system returned to what its supposed to be. Hell it actually happens sometimes. Nvdia and ATi (or was it AMD...) were caught price fixing and fined heavily for it, back in....2008? Can't remember. So yeah. Nobody here knows what you're talking about.




The quote you attribute to me in your post is not my quote.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22347684 - 10/07/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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On the other hand, I actually like this idea, whether I reside here in the Midwest or in Texas, we would sit back and watch the liberal Utopias starve... Y'all would come begging to us for food, energy,  and iPhones when your shortages start happening...




:lolsy: California certainly won't starve. we also have plenty of energy from fossil fuels and renewables.  Also, since the consumer market of LA alone dwarfs whatever shitstain midwest state you live in, as well as the fact the we have the port of Los Angeles, i don't think we'll have to worry about iphones.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22347979 - 10/07/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If you don't agree, your logic is just "slogans"

These people talk themselves in circles convincing themselves they are right, they are blind to the fact the very policies they are advocating will bring about exactly what they are trying to prevent, even though you can see these same policies and the disastrous effects elsewhere in the world, they just think the "right people haven't been in charge" it's truly mind boggling to listen to it...

***insert slogan here




Where in the world have Democratic Socialist principles had a disastrous effect? Germany? Finland? Denmark? Please elaborate, oh wise one! :smile:


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22347983 - 10/07/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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On the other hand, I actually like this idea, whether I reside here in the Midwest or in Texas, we would sit back and watch the liberal Utopias starve... Y'all would come begging to us for food, energy,  and iPhones when your shortages start happening...




:lolsy: California certainly won't starve. we also have plenty of energy from fossil fuels and renewables.  Also, since the consumer market of LA alone dwarfs whatever shitstain midwest state you live in, as well as the fact the we have the port of Los Angeles, i don't think we'll have to worry about iphones.




Lmao! The welfare states will sure show us Librawls! :lmafo:

Sam Brownback, btw. Sam fucking Brownback.

I think WA should be in the mini-country w/ Cali :smile:

We have... Lumber! And sexy bitches!

Oh yeah, and lots of fuckin weed!!! Also, more species of psilocybes grow here than anywhere in the US.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22348548 - 10/08/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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On the other hand, I actually like this idea, whether I reside here in the Midwest or in Texas, we would sit back and watch the liberal Utopias starve... Y'all would come begging to us for food, energy,  and iPhones when your shortages start happening...




:lolsy: California certainly won't starve. we also have plenty of energy from fossil fuels and renewables.  Also, since the consumer market of LA alone dwarfs whatever shitstain midwest state you live in, as well as the fact the we have the port of Los Angeles, i don't think we'll have to worry about iphones.




Lmao! The welfare states will sure show us Librawls! :lmafo:

Sam Brownback, btw. Sam fucking Brownback.

I think WA should be in the mini-country w/ Cali :smile:

We have... Lumber! And sexy bitches!

Oh yeah, and lots of fuckin weed!!! Also, more species of psilocybes grow here than anywhere in the US.




Western Region would be ... California, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii, Alaska ... got plenty of oil, food, water, coastline, investment hubs, media ... you name it.  I'd love to see the South go it alone ... Guns for everyone ... full blown theocracy ... outlaw abortion ... and see what happens.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22348595 - 10/08/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Nano technology won't be capable of doing all of that for a long time. At least 80 years. That's star trek shit. :smile:

However, I think that Nuclear Fusion is very promising and not too far off. That's the technology that I would look to in the near future as our 'saving grace'.




Nano technology is already here.  We're going to see extremely rapid progress with it.  Look up stuff like Graphene and its many applications ... desalination filtration, heating, fibers stronger than steel ...

They're coming up with solar energy membranes, all kinds of fibers for manufacturing and we'll see incredible progress at speeds we never imagined.  Add to that the progress we're making in cracking the DNA codes and hopefully, we'll be able to identify where violence and incurable stupidity come from and can be CURED.  Great things in the future and many big problems to be solved too.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22348823 - 10/08/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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On the other hand, I actually like this idea, whether I reside here in the Midwest or in Texas, we would sit back and watch the liberal Utopias starve... Y'all would come begging to us for food, energy,  and iPhones when your shortages start happening...




:lolsy: California certainly won't starve. we also have plenty of energy from fossil fuels and renewables.  Also, since the consumer market of LA alone dwarfs whatever shitstain midwest state you live in, as well as the fact the we have the port of Los Angeles, i don't think we'll have to worry about iPhones.




ah, but remember, your "nation" won't be importing iPhones because thats evil to exploit overseas workers, from what I remember of the ideas posted here, they won't be importing much of anything, except poor people apparently... LA has a consumer market? wait, is it driven by capitalism? it has consumers, does it have producers?

Does LA grow its own food???

And any rich person that can is fleeing CA right now, what do you think would happen when confiscatory taxes kick in to subsidize those who don't have jobs?


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22349171 - 10/08/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22349174 - 10/08/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
On the other hand, I actually like this idea, whether I reside here in the Midwest or in Texas, we would sit back and watch the liberal Utopias starve... Y'all would come begging to us for food, energy,  and iPhones when your shortages start happening...




:lolsy: California certainly won't starve. we also have plenty of energy from fossil fuels and renewables.  Also, since the consumer market of LA alone dwarfs whatever shitstain midwest state you live in, as well as the fact the we have the port of Los Angeles, i don't think we'll have to worry about iPhones.




ah, but remember, your "nation" won't be importing iPhones because thats evil to exploit overseas workers, from what I remember of the ideas posted here, they won't be importing much of anything, except poor people apparently... LA has a consumer market? wait, is it driven by capitalism? it has consumers, does it have producers?

Does LA grow its own food???

And any rich person that can is fleeing CA right now, what do you think would happen when confiscatory taxes kick in to subsidize those who don't have jobs?




1. Does L.A. have producers?  Sure, Santa Monica is a major tech hub now.  Most of the entertainment in this country is produced in L.A.

2 Does L.A. grow its own food?  No, but the rest of the state produces more agricultural products than any other state...by far...bullshit corn and soybean states in the midwest don't even compare.

3. any rich person that can is fleeing CA.  Maybe, but i haven't noticed.  My GF works at a bakery that sells $4 sugar cookies to wealthy soccer moms and reality TV stars.  They keep expanding to new locations. I've done quite a bit of work for a company that keeps opening bars/event locations.  They opened a restaurant/bar in Malibu that sells $15 well drinks. they are doing just fine, and still opening more locations.  There doesn't seem to be a shortage of wealthy people around here. Now, if you meant that middle class people are selling their homes and retiring out of state, that was more true before 2008.


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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: ballsalsa]
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Read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" if you really want to understand how collusion between government, military and business have exploited global resources to flood America with revenues.





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Re: Libertarianism, Anarchism, Social Darwinism, and Free Market Capitalism is intellectual laziness [Re: The Ecstatic]
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1. Does L.A. have producers?  Sure, Santa Monica is a major tech hub now.  Most of the entertainment in this country is prod




Lol, I knew someone would bring up movie producers... And as far as tech goes, you're absolutely right, the majority of research and development is still done in silicone valley(thanks Reagan) but where are those products made? Remember now, no more importing computers and processors from overseas...

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