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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24699136 - 10/10/17 09:44 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: catnip40]
    #24699145 - 10/10/17 09:46 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

This is awesome, glad to see we're doing an updated list.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24699295 - 10/10/17 10:38 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure he has a Million P.Semilanceata samples by now? Wish I had seen this post originally but I have Sterile Libs I've always wondered about potency comparison with... as well as Eastern Nova Scotia Libs divided by site foraged ranging from 2011-2016 (soon 20017 :biggrin:) are you aware if they would be of any interest? if not what's the best means of contact for him... email I assume?


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Liberty King] * 1
    #24699328 - 10/10/17 10:55 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I talk to him on Facebook, but email is good too.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #24699388 - 10/10/17 11:26 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Alan: Thank's for the update, I have been wondering for the past year what happened.

Liberty King: I have sent him P. semilanceata, and I guess others have as well. I think science have enough data on potency regarding this species. It would be more interesting if we could get more of the exotic finds analyzed. I know that this study will give us results of several species previously untested which is exciting, but there could still be some more out there. To everyone reading this, don't hesitate if you got something rare!


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: knarkkorven]
    #24699389 - 10/10/17 11:29 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the hard work out there!  :popcorn:


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: WhistyTak]
    #24699857 - 10/10/17 03:50 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Wish i'd known about this.

i would have tried to get specimens of Psilocybe subaeruginosa from a few locations in far south Tasmania to add to the mix.

or even Tasmanian Psilocybe semilanceata

next time.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: obtuse]
    #24700135 - 10/10/17 05:39 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: cactuforever]
    #24700829 - 10/10/17 09:16 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Alan, do they take into account active compound deterioration via travel, mail, drying out etc...?


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Origyn]
    #24700918 - 10/10/17 09:47 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Next time I find some gyms ill see if I can send something in.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Origyn]
    #24700931 - 10/10/17 09:49 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Origyn said:
Alan, do they take into account active compound deterioration via travel, mail, drying out etc...?





I do not know.    If I was them I would try testing the same sample at the beginning of the study and after a couple years sitting at room temp to get an idea how the numbers change over time.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: TheDuder] * 1
    #24700932 - 10/10/17 09:49 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybe Atlantis a good specimen to study?


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Cham9085]
    #24701248 - 10/11/17 02:53 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

It'd be interesting to know by how much the 'psychoactives' deteriorate with aging in the field. Is a knarled old flyblown and weatherworn lib as potent as a photo-perfect young specimen from the same troop.

Many of the lib examples in the UK threads I wouldn't pick, same as I would leave behind mushrooms in a supermarket that have obvious signs of deteriation.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: knarkkorven]
    #24704632 - 10/12/17 11:51 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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knarkkorven said:
Alan: Thank's for the update, I have been wondering for the past year what happened.

Liberty King: I have sent him P. semilanceata, and I guess others have as well. I think science have enough data on potency regarding this species. It would be more interesting if we could get more of the exotic finds analyzed. I know that this study will give us results of several species previously untested which is exciting, but there could still be some more out there. To everyone reading this, don't hesitate if you got something rare!





Yeah I kind of figured that but thought I'd check! Thanks for the Info!


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Liberty King]
    #24705933 - 10/12/17 09:49 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

any idea when the results will be released? i will be curious to see how this turns out.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24705941 - 10/12/17 09:57 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I was just saying Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World is so out of date I wish there was something newer. Exciting


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24706053 - 10/12/17 11:00 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
I just spoke with Jan and he said they would be running samples until December.

If you have any collections that you would like to get tested, the time to send them is now.

It would be interesting to see more Pluteus, Gymnopilus, Pholiotina and uncommon Psilocybe species.

The address to send them to is:

Jan Borovicka, Institute of Geology CAS
Rozvojova 269
CZ-165 00 Prague 6
Czech Republic


Make sure they are well labeled so the photos and other collection data that go with the samples can be recorded.



Would he be interested in California Stuntzii and these?

The second ones location was recently woodchipped again which is good in the long run, poor for photogenic opportunity this year.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #24706269 - 10/13/17 02:57 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Origyn said:
Alan, do they take into account active compound deterioration via travel, mail, drying out etc...?





I do not know.    If I was them I would try testing the same sample at the beginning of the study and after a couple years sitting at room temp to get an idea how the numbers change over time.




Seems to be a serious constraint on the analysis, unknown preparation and handling would immediately devalue the result IMO unless there were extremely clear findings.  Any variation in results could be attributed to the fruit or the preparation e.g. unknown drying time and temperature.

I would be interested to learn what effect the drying temperature has on the active chemicals, if any.  Personal experience is that the 40C max recommendation has no credibility.  I have accidentally dried them at 60C after a device malfunctioned.  Curious, I sampled them in a measured (weighed) dose and there was no noticeable reduction in the potency.  But then that is an unscientific report from an occasional drug user, WTF would they know.

Marry that with the fact that boiling (100C) has no noticeable effect either and I started to believe that this 40C drying temp is just another urban legend, passed down through the decades.


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 2
    #28077736 - 12/01/22 10:03 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Extensive Collection of Psychotropic Mushrooms with Determination of Their Tryptamine Alkaloids
by Klára Gotvaldová, Jan Borovička, Kateřina Hájková, Petra Cihlářová, Alan Rockefeller and Martin Kuchař

https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/23/22/14068

The long-awaited study is finally here!
This must be it, right? Alan, can you confirm?

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...Furthermore, mushroom collections were provided in response to requests
on social media by anonymous donors from Australia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, France,
Germany, Italy, Mexico, Sweden, and the USA.




Very interesting content! :popcorn:


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Re: Psilocybin mushroom potency study is about to begin [Re: knarkkorven] * 2
    #28077765 - 12/01/22 10:26 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Very interesting, very interesting.  It appears I need a bohemica spore sample... for microscopy... :awehigh:


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