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OfflineSlapnutRob
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Heat DOES matter
    #2233452 - 01/10/04 03:36 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I used to think heat didn't make a huge, noticeable difference in the incubation stage. That was until, on my current batch, I checked my jars that were being kept in a box in a blanket next to a radiator. I noticed the jars close to the radiator that were actually warm to the touch were showing signs of colonization already, while the ones cold to the touch ain't done shit. Just found that interesting and am now marveling at my former ignorance.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2233472 - 01/10/04 03:45 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

You bet yer ass is does...


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2233493 - 01/10/04 03:58 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2233524 - 01/10/04 04:19 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

86 degrees F, 100% humidity, minimal gas exchange, total darkness.

That should do it.

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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2233605 - 01/10/04 05:12 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I have mine around 85 in a tub setup. I get entire colonization of BRF cakes in less than two weeks. Heat it great.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: crazychemist]
    #2233618 - 01/10/04 05:21 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I just injected my PF jars this morning and there in the tub sittin at 86 degrees.... IM gonna check them out Wensday and let you know how its going.....And if Theres some progress Ill get you all some pictures for all your help!!!


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: fungulus]
    #2233621 - 01/10/04 05:24 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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fungulus said:
86 degrees F, 100% humidity, minimal gas exchange, total darkness.

That should do it.




no need for 100% humidity during the colonisation phase.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: RowZeZe]
    #2233624 - 01/10/04 05:25 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

You should have growth by Wednesday. Do you have your holes covered? I leave mine uncovered after innoc with PF method.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: crazychemist]
    #2233729 - 01/10/04 06:20 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

There uncovered. The only thing im worried about is that the verm I used hade these like goldish colored tin looking peices. Does anyone else see that. And my cakes look white cause of the BRF...Is that normal


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: RowZeZe]
    #2233742 - 01/10/04 06:25 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

That is normal, mine has that too.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: crazychemist]
    #2234256 - 01/11/04 02:16 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

How come you leave the holes open after innoculation? doesn't that dry out your cake as well as make is easy for contams to get in? im a newb, so i really appericiate experienced knowledge. Ty


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: KreeprCeepr]
    #2234266 - 01/11/04 02:28 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

yes I disagree with fugulus' statement advocating minimal gas exchange during colonization. polyfill is WAY speadier than taped up holes. If your jars stall, many suggest removing the tape and inverting the jars to STIMULATE gas exchange for improved colonization.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: simplemachine]
    #2234277 - 01/11/04 02:40 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

you have a dry verm layer to keep contams out,any other added filtering on pf jars is not needed.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: Hanky]
    #2234362 - 01/11/04 04:29 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

you have a dry verm layer to keep contams out,any other added filtering on pf jars is not needed.




It's more than possible for the dry layer to fail to keep out contaminates. Fair enough, it's usually pretty good, but using polyfill or some other hydrophobic filter can really cut down on contams, epsecially if your incubating in a less than clean environment.

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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: Hanky]
    #2234375 - 01/11/04 04:44 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

how about humidiy i'm running like 34%rh is that ok?

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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: OJK]
    #2234385 - 01/11/04 04:54 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

you have a dry verm layer to keep contams out,any other added filtering on pf jars is not needed.




It's more than possible for the dry layer to fail to keep out contaminates. Fair enough, it's usually pretty good, but using polyfill or some other hydrophobic filter can really cut down on contams, epsecially if your incubating in a less than clean environment.

-Odium




your paranoid.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: Normlizer420]
    #2234386 - 01/11/04 04:57 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

yeah thats fine,a pf jar even with the inoculation holes will maintain it's own high humidity environment inside the jar.


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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: Hanky]
    #2234395 - 01/11/04 05:07 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

cool thanks hanky

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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: Normlizer420]
    #2234747 - 01/11/04 01:00 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

In regards to the gas exchange discussion here. I'm using rye grain for my substrate in 1 qt jars. I'm working on my temperature, I've gone from 82 a yesterday to 88 today so i cut back the thermostat. I'm aiming for 86 obviously. So in any case i have 1 qt jars filled with hydrated rye berries with an electrostatic filter across the mouth of the jar and a lid with about a 1/4 inch hole in the top. My jars are still covered with the foil i pressure cooked them in. I punctured straight through the foil to inoculate the jars and then placed a small piece of duct tape over the punctures left from the needle. Would someone with more experience tell me if I'm getting ample gas exchange here? thanks.


btw, for my temperature gauge I'm using a jar filled with water and an aquarium thermometer in the jar of water. Am i getting an accurate air temperature reading? I'm using 2 rubbermaids for my incubation chamber, one sitting in a reservoir on top of the other.

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Re: Heat DOES matter [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2235024 - 01/11/04 03:49 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Just so your not suprised when you find this out Size does matter to Dont let your girl lie to ya :smile:


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