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Tantrika
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Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister
#22342302 - 10/06/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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And, as such, the Conservatives plan to continue to pour funding into cannabis busts.
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Conservative Leader Stephen Harper expressed his vehement opposition to marijuana once again, calling it "infinitely worse" than tobacco at a campaign stop in Montreal on Saturday.
"Tobacco is a product that does a lot of damage. Marijuana is infinitely worse and it's something that we do not want to encourage," Harper said.
He made the remarks in response to a reporter's question about why he was so bothered by marijuana, given that tobacco and alcohol are regulated and many use pot legally for medicinal purposes.
"There's just overwhelming and growing scientific and medical evidence about the bad long-term effects of marijuana," he said, not providing any examples.
He went on to compare his party's approach to the tobacco control strategy.
"We've spent a couple of generations trying to reduce the usage of tobacco in Canada with a lot of success." Pot came up in second French debate
Marijuana has been a wedge issue throughout the campaign, with the Liberals in favour of legalization and regulation and the NDP favouring decriminalization, rather than legalization.
During Saturday's campaign stop, Harper reiterated that he will retain tough drug laws, which he says are meant to target traffickers, who profit off "destroying people's health."
Harper clashed with Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau over the issue during Friday's second French-language debate, challenging him on his position, as he has done in the past.
"If we sell marijuana in stores like alcohol and tobacco, that will protect our kids? No one believes that," Harper said.
"The reality is that we have kids who find it easier to buy marijuana than cigarettes and beer," Trudeau responded.
"If a young person buys marijuana, it's because he had contact directly with a criminal. We will continue to control marijuana like cigarettes and alcohol, not to sell them in corner stores." Tories link pot with mental health issues
Harper's "infinitely worse" comments received decidedly mixed reactions online, with many bringing up the deaths caused by tobacco and alcohol.
The Conservatives often link marijuana use to increased risks of mental health issues, such as psychosis and schizophrenia, but medical research on that is divided.
Health Canada put out an anti-marijuana ad campaign late last year — which was repeated shortly before the start of the election campaign — that warned pot was responsible for lower IQs. That statement derived from two studies whose conclusions have since been challenged.
In August, Harper claimed a majority of Canadians agree with him on his opposition to pot legalization and promised the RCMP an extra $4.5 million a year to crack down on drug labs and marijuana grow-ops.
According to the latest findings of Vote Compass, CBC's voter-engagement survey, a majority of Canadians are in favour of either decriminalizing or legalizing personal marijuana use — including voters who identify as Conservatives.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stephen-harper-pot-marijuana-1.3255727
Video embedded on news site.
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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Tantrika]
#22342338 - 10/06/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lame.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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musiclover420
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Tantrika]
#22342340 - 10/06/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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my3rdeye



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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: musiclover420] 1
#22343075 - 10/06/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't wait to vote him out. Can't fucking wait
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HardTrippin
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: my3rdeye]
#22343087 - 10/06/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: I can't wait to vote him out. Can't fucking wait
Tell your friends to vote. He's set to win right now if you trust the polls.
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Turtletotem
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Tantrika] 1
#22343181 - 10/06/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SweetLeafSamadhi said: The Conservatives often link marijuana use to increased risks of mental health issues, such as psychosis and schizophrenia, but medical research on that is divided.
Seems to me weed causes plenty of psychosis, but not in it´s users.
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musiclover420
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: my3rdeye] 1
#22343338 - 10/06/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pretty much anything can cause psychosis if you are pre disposed to it, especially drug abuse.
That said cannabis is infinitely safer than many commonly abused substances.
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my3rdeye said: I can't wait to vote him out. Can't fucking wait
Get him the fuck out and lets make the message clear we won't accept dumb ass politicians like him anymore.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Tantrika] 1
#22343448 - 10/06/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love that line of text though...."not providing any examples" 
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"There's just overwhelming and growing scientific and medical evidence about the bad long-term effects of marijuana," he said, not providing any examples.
Does he think we live under a rock?
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P-O
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Uzziel]
#22343474 - 10/06/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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#AnyoneButHarper
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musiclover420
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Uzziel] 2
#22343625 - 10/07/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That right there is how you science.
On a side note did you guys know it is legal to kill any politician as long as they have tried to assert something as a fact with no evidence using science?
-Said me, not providing any examples.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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my3rdeye



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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: HardTrippin] 1
#22343679 - 10/07/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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HardTrippin said:
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my3rdeye said: I can't wait to vote him out. Can't fucking wait
Tell your friends to vote. He's set to win right now if you trust the polls.
I just got a ticket for postering this
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Peachette
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#22343689 - 10/07/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Seems to me weed causes plenty of psychosis, but not in it´s users.
This had me rolling!!
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HardTrippin
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: my3rdeye]
#22344263 - 10/07/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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HardTrippin said:
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my3rdeye said: I can't wait to vote him out. Can't fucking wait
Tell your friends to vote. He's set to win right now if you trust the polls.
I just got a ticket for postering this

Nice. I salute you friend. Someone in my town has been writing 'Harper' under the 'STOP' on every stop sign. It's pretty sweet.
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larry.fisherman
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: P-O] 1
#22344320 - 10/07/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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P-O said: #AnyoneButHarper
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sh4d0ws
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: my3rdeye]
#22344341 - 10/07/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: I can't wait to vote him out. Can't fucking wait
I am about as anti harper as someone could possibly be, but it's a very close race and very likely Harper will be in power yet again.
Trudeau might win, but again, it's extremely close. It just likely won't be a majority government.
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zZZz
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Tantrika]
#22344939 - 10/07/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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that dude is going to hell
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larry.fisherman
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: zZZz]
#22345922 - 10/07/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can't go to hell if you live in Canada.
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: larry.fisherman] 1
#22346008 - 10/07/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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...because you're already there?
Everyone in Hell wants hot chocolate, not ice water.
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musiclover420
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Peachette]
#22346915 - 10/07/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What about canadian hell?
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: musiclover420]
#22347521 - 10/07/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: What about canadian hell?
Funny you should mention that, I was just thinking about the Canadian devil.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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ShiVersblood
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Tantrika]
#22347790 - 10/07/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Impeach him. He is going against the Will of the people who elected him.
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NotTheDevil
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: ShiVersblood] 1
#22348071 - 10/07/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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"If we sell marijuana in stores like alcohol and tobacco, that will protect our kids? No one believes that," Harper said.
"The reality is that we have kids who find it easier to buy marijuana than cigarettes and beer," Trudeau responded.
"If a young person buys marijuana, it's because he had contact directly with a criminal. We will continue to control marijuana like cigarettes and alcohol, not to sell them in corner stores.""If we sell marijuana in stores like alcohol and tobacco, that will protect our kids? No one believes that," Harper said.
"The reality is that we have kids who find it easier to buy marijuana than cigarettes and beer," Trudeau responded.
"If a young person buys marijuana, it's because he had contact directly with a criminal. We will continue to control marijuana like cigarettes and alcohol, not to sell them in corner stores."
When something that over half the people in your country have used is illegal, then everyone has direct contact with criminas. Make it legal and the "criminals" start to disappear.
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Turtletotem]
#22350344 - 10/08/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said:
Seems to me weed causes plenty of psychosis, but not in it´s users.
Now that, was poetic!
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: my3rdeye]
#22355346 - 10/09/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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HardTrippin said:
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my3rdeye said: I can't wait to vote him out. Can't fucking wait
Tell your friends to vote. He's set to win right now if you trust the polls.
I just got a ticket for postering this

You got a ticket for that? Canada, LOL
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: rubberlizard]
#22357625 - 10/10/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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rubberlizard said:
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Turtletotem said:
Seems to me weed causes plenty of psychosis, but not in it´s users.
Now that, was poetic!
Thanks! I love getting cred for paraphrasing McKenna!
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P-O
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Dark_Star]
#22361303 - 10/10/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said:
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my3rdeye said:
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HardTrippin said:
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my3rdeye said: I can't wait to vote him out. Can't fucking wait
Tell your friends to vote. He's set to win right now if you trust the polls.
I just got a ticket for postering this

You got a ticket for that? Canada, LOL
what kind of ticket?
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Masked
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Tantrika] 1
#22361578 - 10/11/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This makes me so fucking angry
And I know he will win again. This country of people is so fucking stupid to vote a bastard like him in again. Fucking retards
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P-O
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Masked]
#22363881 - 10/11/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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agreed
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Vitalux
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Re: Marijuana is "infinitely worse" than Tobacco, according to Canada's Prime Minister [Re: Tantrika]
#22366080 - 10/11/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I had my way, I say us Canadians should tar and feather that fucker Harper
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