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"Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love?
    #22339635 - 10/06/15 03:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

When you feel like you have this strong non-sexual (but have sexual feelings also) attraction to someone but you hardly know them, and only have very little to go on as to whether they'd actually suit you or not, is it the universe pushing us around, or is it just the added desperation that you're feeling, for whatever reason? Or is it something else?

Is love a force of the universe, bringing lovers together for whatever strange purposes this wonderful world has, or are there more rational explanations for love at first sight? Or love before even properly meeting?


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: circastes]
    #22339646 - 10/06/15 04:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Go with those sexual feeling, dig it.  Them feelings release things in the body that are very nourishing and heeling.  I don't understand how you speak of non-sexual attractions. ?  Fooling yourself there.  Or, me at least.

Look into oxytocin, I think that's correct word.

Love at first sight is where it's at.  Travel years at light speed to see that love shine again.  Ya' understand?  If not, keep poking around 'til you catch me drift.

I have been single mush my life.  Never seemed to ask myself questions as these.  More of a observator than questioner.  As understanding comes to as puff.s of truths.

Sounds like your into this other being and are coming to questions that would do you alot of good to talk to and come yo understand with other.  If can make sense of it all in conersation, a bonding moment for you two.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #22339819 - 10/06/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Love, exciting and new
Come aboard
We're expecting you
And love
Life's sweetest reward
Let it flow
If floats back to you.

This was of course before the norovirus and Herpes...


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #22340133 - 10/06/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's just the want to breed. We all want to breed subconsciously  ... You're reading into it too much


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: eehoo]
    #22343603 - 10/07/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So 'love' isn't even a real thing?

I think life is more than just a bunch of animals fucking each other...

...right?


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: circastes]
    #22343677 - 10/07/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I understand what you mean. There's definitely such a thing as a non-sexual attraction, but yes, it is often sexual too. They are distinguishable types of attraction though.

Currently I'm experiencing this intense desire to be with somebody who is far away and it doesn't make much sense for us to see each other. I definitely have plenty of options for sexual partners in my own city, but there's a need to connect with this particular person. Personally, I just feel there's a strong emotional bond and a quiet intensity when we're alone. (It's awesome. Nourishing.) At this point all I can do is get to know them better. :shrug:

It really doesn't make sense, especially if the need to get laid is the only factor. I definitely have easier options, but you know. The heart wants what the heart wants.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: BobaJones]
    #22344052 - 10/07/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah that's certainly what I'm talking about. What do you guys think of this quote?

"Love springs from biology and we are fully biologically empowered beings. The love that springs from understanding is the intimacy that comes from the penetration of another point of view. I mean, the vocabulary is necessarily sexual, but I think of love as a solvent. It really penetrates any situation. It just washes through and touches all levels of a situation. It may be the unique complement that we bring to this mix. I mean, our machines may think faster, image better, so forth and so on, but love seems to actually be the thumbprint of divinity upon on biology because it doesn’t seem necessary."

- Terence McKenna


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: circastes]
    #22344091 - 10/07/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why not mention the myriad of sexual dysfunctions and irrational behaviour in the cosmic scheme.

The overwhelming evidence is love and affection are biological mechanisms. Not cosmic destiny or other intuitive rambling.

I could understand the confusion if your selling a book, otherwise it's just idiocy. You get one life don't spend it listening to fools and charlatans.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: Jaegar]
    #22346105 - 10/07/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Jaegar said:
Why not mention ...
The overwhelming evidence is love and affection are biological mechanisms. Not cosmic destiny or other intuitive rambling.

I could understand the confusion if your selling a book, otherwise i....




Dopamine, oxytocin, vasopressin

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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: circastes]
    #22346685 - 10/07/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

circastes said:
When you feel like you have this strong non-sexual (but have sexual feelings also) attraction to someone but you hardly know them, and only have very little to go on as to whether they'd actually suit you or not, is it the universe pushing us around, or is it just the added desperation that you're feeling, for whatever reason? Or is it something else?

Is love a force of the universe, bringing lovers together for whatever strange purposes this wonderful world has, or are there more rational explanations for love at first sight? Or love before even properly meeting?




It could be any of the above IMO.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: Kickle]
    #22347040 - 10/07/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You know OC introduced me to the 'Twin Flame' phenomenon a little while back and I've done some pretty intensive digging on the subject. Pretty damn sure, by all accounts, that my wife is my 'Twin Flame'.

If you care to read about the subject, try shoehorning that into some kind of 'biological only' reasoning. It just doesn't work.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22347254 - 10/07/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I dunno, I'd rather be in a relationship where somebody complimented me than completed something missing in me, in a hypothetical situation where I wanted to be in a relationship :lol:.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: CosmicJoke] * 1
    #22347679 - 10/07/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think for myself at least, there were many synchronicities which seemed to imply "meant to be" feelings and love.

For her as well, she began then we began noticing many meaningful and at times, odd coincidences which still occur to this day, nearly two years later.

Its beyond both of us and its real.

Keep seeking circastes and you will find love or it will find you, actually both at once :wink:


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: hTx]
    #22348003 - 10/07/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm..its like experiencing a thing once..and in a certain level of reality..

which can be true love, or soul mates for example..but then if you carry it with you when it is no longer applicable..that is the type of feeling that people are then called either hopeless romantics..or stockers..most of rejection is due to a reason for something to exist..but can only exist in a certain way..or as you say an order to love..the most open minded person will have 15 soul mates a day..and doesnt even need to contact them in any other realm other than the Psychic!


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #22348035 - 10/07/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

True you should probably reflect on the nature of what these terms mean..like

Love at first sight

Soul Mates..

Etc..then you may be able to decode the truth..some people will instantly understand..but some other people are to attached and therefore take years to decades..before they understand..I dont even want to give these people credit..but at least im typing whats on my mind..

If for example..you have a true soul mate..and its the one and only..then you probably dont need to even recognize it at all..because only one of you would ultimately need to carry the Knowledge around..And therefore..in the end..the honest connection of Soul mates would be fulfilled..just because its true..and there fore radiates and continues to be pushed along the current wave of existence..and reflects in the divine kingdom of the Man and the Universe..

This opened up a new perception for me..which is that ultimately neither of the Soul mates need understand..especially for the deep fear of either being wrong..or afraid of the deep connection of love which can negatively impact the soul connection..I think if there is real soul mates..then each one will necessarily carry the means for that connection to exist..in a way that they choose..which gives their highest ideals fulfillment..

Like the idea of a Ego-Ideal;

So one could be a cold rational type with completely different beliefs..but the other an insane hopeless romantic..

Ultimately the connection of Soul mates will happen..when you begin to tell the truth in all situations..and this includes in visiting places that the Soul mate may be from..Obviously no one on Earth Baring A 2000yr old Jew could ever attempt to tell the truth all the time..but doing your best is probably your only vehicle to salvation;

This maid be realize how brave the founders of religions and prophets that carry the line actually are..for real(miracle)..you probably have to reincarnate enough times until you are mostly focused on the truth.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #22348317 - 10/08/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm at least we have a variety of perspectives.

I hold that life is a meaningful mental construct of some kind, so I'm open to "higher connections" between people, being a possibility in this construct.

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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: circastes]
    #22349167 - 10/08/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I hold a similar possibility as well, though I also hold the possibility that every moment, every step, and every misstep can be an aspect of some higher construct, including falling into delusional infatuation.

Not saying that this is happening to you, but it has happened to me. In retrospect, it's all good and I wouldn't trade a moment, but what was once a magical connection became a sad goodbye. Grasp lightly.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #22349303 - 10/08/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have no answer to the questions above but I believe everything happens for a reason & also I believe in intuition. But goddamn I am beginning to hate those "meant to be" feeling that occur. They fuck with my head , especially when things don't pan out with the female interest.. which in my experience thus far , they never do. I feel tempted at times to change who I am just so that I can actually get laid & spend time with females far more often then I do. But I can't , I am who I am. Being the quiet & "nice guy" has basically gotten me nowhere in my romantic life. I hope that one day it does because beneath whatever it is people see me as, is pure love. Meant to be feelings :thumbdown:


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: circastes]
    #22349434 - 10/08/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Let's look at it mathematically.  There are what, seven and a half billion people on this marble?  Right?  So maybe almost four billion women?  So how likely is it that you find "the one" anywhere near you?  She could be in Burma for all you know.  By this logic, actually hooking up with your twin flame is virtually impossible.  The only way would be for it to be arranged via reincarnation, and I don't think it can be predicted by whatever intelligence operates the reincarnation cycle just who exactly a person will meet.  So that leaves us with it's pretty damned unlikely that anyone can actually even be in the same region as one's twin flame, let alone meet them, let alone get into an intimate relationship with them.  Dig?


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22349610 - 10/08/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

DQ you might find this adorable if you haven't already.
XKCD tackled this in his What If section. Check it out.

Really good write up on what it actually would be like if there truly was only one person out there for everyone.

Your love is one in a million
You couldn’t buy it at any price.
But of the 9.999 hundred thousand other loves,
Statistically, some of them would be equally nice.


The reality:


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: Tropism]
    #22349643 - 10/08/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Fantastic, thank you for sharing.  I liked this part the best:

Quote:

Tim Minchin’s take on things:

    With all my heart and all my mind I know one thing is true:
    I have just one life and just one love and, my love, that love is you.

    And if it wasn't for you, baby,
    I really think that I would
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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22349846 - 10/08/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Right?
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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22351609 - 10/08/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
Let's look at it mathematically.  There are what, seven and a half billion people on this marble?  Right?  So maybe almost four billion women?  So how likely is it that you find "the one" anywhere near you?  She could be in Burma for all you know.  By this logic, actually hooking up with your twin flame is virtually impossible.  The only way would be for it to be arranged via reincarnation, and I don't think it can be predicted by whatever intelligence operates the reincarnation cycle just who exactly a person will meet.  So that leaves us with it's pretty damned unlikely that anyone can actually even be in the same region as one's twin flame, let alone meet them, let alone get into an intimate relationship with them.  Dig?



I completely appreciate what you're saying there DQ. If one were to believe that there was only one person that fits the bill for them, then the numbers alone would state that there's little to no chance of ever finding that one person. However I suspect that there may be many more than a single 'Twin Flame' for each of us out there. I understand that goes against what is said to be the cause of the TF connection (two halfs of one soul or some such shit) but I don't buy it.

What I do buy however, is the fact that when in a TF type relationship, the fucking synchronicity abounds man. And whilst I've heavily questioned if that's simply a result of confirmation bias, I just don't feel it is. Maybe I'm completely deluded, or deluding myself (I'm open to this) but I really feel, deep down, that when one finds this connection, it's beyond any kind of biological mechanism.

I've always been popular with women and have had a great many relationships starting at about 10 years old, and whilst I completely agree that the love/attraction for all but one of them felt like it was driven by biological mechanisms, my current one (even though it is on the rocks right now) had a great many aspects that I simply do not believe can be explained by this same mechanism.


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Re: "Meant to be" feelings - for hopeless romantics or is there an order to love? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22352280 - 10/08/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Lol..Margaret Long is my Soul Mate;..Wooo!


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