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First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK
#22339369 - 10/06/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I apologize in advance for the lack of pictures for the first part of this grow log. I didn't happen to join this website until after I started the process. But will be updating with pictures and more post regularly afterwards in order to receive tips and help along the way. I also thank you all in advance for this. Hopefully this will be a magical journey for all of us.
Let's get this out of the way to begin with. I've never done this before, ever in any kind of way. My friend brought up the idea up in our group of friends I was the only one "crazy" enough to make it reality. Even though I've never done shrooms and after this grow will be my first time to try them.
The Beginning
I've been gathering my materials as I awaited the arrival of my syringe. It arrived on September 30th. On Oct 1st I completed the steps consisting of mixing the vermiculite and the rice flour. I've read a lot a different guides and post and such talking about what contents to put in the cake(Referring to using different grades of verm.). I decided that I'd squash some of the debate and figure out which grade works best for myself. I mixed the contents doing that ratio of 2:1:1 verm:rice flour:water. Mixing the water with the verm first until there was just a slight amount of excess water in the bowl before adding in the flour. I did 2 jars with fine verm, and 4 jars with a mediumish verm. I added the holes in the lid. Wiped down the top centimeter of the jar and places a layer of fine verm on top of all the jars.
Sterilization Another widely debated topic I seen was on if I should tape the holes on the jar or not. Once again I decided to see which worked better for me and I taped 4 jars and didn't tape 2 using waterproof medical tape. Due to having the shift the project to different location I have lost track of one of the jars I didn't use tape on and it's been mixed with the rest. I debated spending the money on getting pressure cooker, and wished I would and plan on it for the next batch. For sterilization I used a tall pot, lined with 2 layers of jar rings, and 2 layers of foil alternating. On top of the last piece of foil I placed another layer of rings to suspend my jars. I placed the jars on top of them with foil tightly pressed down around them.I filled the water to about a centimeter under the jars and sterilized for about 2 hours and left to sit over night.
Inoculation On October 2nd, I started the process of inoculating. The whole day before while my jars were sterilizing I spent the time cleaning the bathroom I was going to work in. I removed everything I could from the room. Including the rug and the hanging towels. I even closed the air vent to the room. I wiped down surfaces with a water and bleach combo and smogged the room with disinfection spray several times. For today thought, I just misted the room with bleach water and sprayed the room down about 15 minutes before starting with disinfection spray.
Afterwards I immediately suited up. Being paranoid. I had already showered was freshly cleaned. Did not wear any excess amount of clothing. I wiped myself down thoroughly with 91% alcohol. I used a saw dust mask and latex gloves as well.
After suiting up, and using alcohol to clean my gloves giving it time to evaporate. I moved the jars from the pan to a glove box made out of a clear tote that I had cut two holes into the side of. The box had been in the room I had been cleaning and sanitizing since the beginning of the process. I removed all the foil and tape off of the jars in the glove box. Sanitized my hands again before starting the process and inoculated the six jars using 1.2ml of syringe per jar.
I ran into a bit of a problem while inoculating. The holes I made in the top of the jars were not big enough for the needles. However, I did luck out and at least 1 out of every 4 holes were big enough for the needle to fit into or at least force into. I sterilized the needle between each jar. But was only able to inoculate from one hole per jar. But I dispensed small amounts in different locations that I could reach from that one hole.
After all said and done I placed the jars into a box and put them on the top shelf of my closet.
Colonization
On October 3rd I realize my my girlfriend is the ice queen and the top of my closet is sitting only at 69 degrees. I hurriedly moved the box to the top of my fridge. Later checked to find that it only moved up to 72 degrees. Later that night, I moved the entire operation to a closet in my friends house buying a small space heater to go inside it. The temperature has been sitting at 81 degrees since and has yet to change. With 47% humidity. (not sure how much the humidity matters or not, but my thermometer reads it as well.
October 5th After moving the jars to my friend's house I had the first chance to go check them. They've been inoculated for about 4 days. But in ideal conditions for less than 2. I get there to find that 4 out of 6 jars are showing signs of life.




As you can see both the jars with fine verm have started to grow very decently. One being one that had no tape and one that did have tape. Two of the medium verm jars have started growing. No signs of growth in the last two as of yet.
When I get a chance to see the jars again sometime this week. I'll be taking more pictures, but this time I will be labeling the jars so that it'll be organized and the rest of my grow log will be a bit more put together.
October 6th I kept telling myself I'd give the jars a couple of days before checking on them again, but after long thoughts decided to check to see if the other two jars had started any growth. I've now labeled the jars and will be referring to them by the letter assigned. All the jars in as little as 24 hours have mad a huge leap, except for one.
Jar A:

 Jar A shows a solid sign of growth on one side of the cake that has spread to the bottom and around the edges.
Jar B:



 Jar B shows sign of growth on two opposite sides. And along the bottom of it.
Jar C:
 Jar C still shows no sign of life. The holes punched into this jar were too small except for one. Which was slightly offset more towards the center. I believe the mycelium if at all will start growing from the inside out before showing itself.
Jar D:


 Jar D showing strong growth on one side and along the bottom and edges of the jar.
Jar E:

 Jar E is one of the two fine verm jars that I made. It shows a very strong growth on one side.
Jar F:

 Jar F is the second of the two jars I made with fine verm. And is also one of the jars I sterilized without medical tape over the holes with.
After today I will be allowing the jars to sit for a couple of days without being bothered. I'm going to try and wait until the 8th or the 9th maybe even the 10th before checking them again to lower the chances of contamination caused by the top layer of verm shifting. Hopefully by this time Jar C will have kicked into gear. And I can't wait to see the progress that has been made by then. I'll keep you guys updated.
October 9th Finally went and checked on them today. And here are the results.
Jar A: A lot of new growth.


Jar B: Currently my leading jar in growth. It's the only jar that has growth on opposite sides of the jar.



Jar C: Coming a long ways from showing no signs of life at all Jar C has shown its first signs of life on the side. But check out the bottom! My assumption that it was growing from the inside out was correct.



Jar D: A lot of new growth. What are these fuzzy things to the upper right side of the growth?


Jar E:


Jar F:


All the jars have made quite some progress since the last time I've seen them. I've lowered the temperature in the closet to 79 degrees and I'm going to monitor the growth and compare the difference.
I also will soon beginning gathering the supplies for my fruiting chamber.
October 12th I lowered the temperature of the closet to 79 degrees. I haven't noted any significant increase or decrease in the growing of the mycelium so I've left it there. The jars have started having a bit of condensation on the inside of the jars is this normal? Other than the water starting to appear on the insides of the jars, everything seems to be going according to plan. I've had a contamination scare. But it's too soon to tell if it is or not. So we will see.
Here are the updated pictures. It's been 12 days since inoculation and 11 days since ideal conditions.
Jar A:


Jar B:



Jar C:


Jar D:


Jar E:



Jar F:


October 19th
Having a busy week I finally got to go check on the jars, and this is what I've found. I found it easier to take a picture of what parts the jar had left to colonize versus taking a picture of what was already done. Here are they are, and I'll have a couple questions as well.
Jar A:


Jar B The outside of this jar is completely covered and I'd assume technically in the consolidation stage.



Jar C This jar was once the only jar not showing life, it is now the second one to reach the consolidation stage.



Jar D



Jar E


Jar F



Consolidation October 21st All jars are completely covered on the outsides and as of the 22nd I will consider them all in the consolidation state.
Jar A



Jar B



Jar C



Jar D



Jar E



Jar F



I'll be beginning the dunk and roll process next Thursday. I also took the time today to start setting up my chamber.
The Chamber I've set the chamber up in a closet separate than the one used to colonize the jars. The shotgun chamber was suppose to be 2 inches off of a shelf, however I chose to suspend it in the air using some old Pepsi crates I had laying around. I believe that this would make a decent airflow underneath the chamber. Here are some pictures of what I have so far.





I went ahead and skipped taking pictures of the dunk and roll process. I mean, come on, who wants to see giant marahmellow like objects floating in a pot?
Fruiting
October 30th The cakes were dunked and rolled and placed in the chamber that has been maintained at 99% humidity and 72 degrees for the last two days. The cakes were allowed to sit in the chamber for an hour before being misted. Then being misted every thirty minutes for the next two hours. The timer on the light has been set to 12 hours on and 12 hours off. The on hours being from noon until midnight. Here are the cakes in their new home.



This is the cakes after they were misted the first time.

The closet I had the chamber in is now clear of any other objects on the ground floor and the chamber was centered away from the walls as suggested.

November 8th Just when you start to slightly doubt yourself. Mushies prove you wrong. First beautiful sign of pins. Not a crazy pin set. But pins nonetheless. So far pins on 5 out of 6 cakes.


Any tips or advice will not be taken for granted. Thank you for spending your time with me today.
Edited by Tawksin (11/09/15 09:54 AM)
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Achillita]
#22339383 - 10/06/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pardon me, but are my pictures enormous? Or is that just me? Is there a way I can fix this?
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Tawksin
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Fixed this. Thank you very much, looks a lot better. Sorry for the newb-syndrome.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22339414 - 10/06/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm going to bed I'll read it tomorrow.
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I'm going to bed I'll read it tomorrow.
Thank you. Let me know what you think.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22340386 - 10/06/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldn't worry about hearing the room they are in & I'd recommended getting a pressure cooker. Look like your jars are doing good. This your first attempt at mushrooms?
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: dreadhed]
#22340736 - 10/06/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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dreadhed said: I wouldn't worry about hearing the room they are in & I'd recommended getting a pressure cooker. Look like your jars are doing good. This your first attempt at mushrooms?
Yes this is my first attempt ever. In fact, I've never even consumed any before, and shortly after having my first success I'll be having my first trip as well.
I heat the closet that it's in because I've read everywhere that between 80-86F is optimal for growth.
Also I have edited the original post with an update for today. Let me know what you guys think so far.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22345341 - 10/07/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay. Don't heat your jars. Room temp is fine.
And you said
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You broke rule #1 right off the bat dude. TELL NO ONE. You trust your friends enough to put your life in their hands?? I've seen people fold that I never thought would...bad idea.
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Let's be honest flabber. The majority of people don't abide by that rule. Just be wary who you tell, and make sure your friends don't go talking.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Achillita]
#22345592 - 10/07/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most people aren't a paranoid schizophrenic either
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Achillita]
#22345867 - 10/07/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Let's be honest flabber. The majority of people don't abide by that rule. Just be wary who you tell, and make sure your friends don't go talking.
This is were your wrong. In fact, even the friend that brought up the idea to us doesn't even know. Of the people that were there when it was said only one other person knows about it other than me.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22347551 - 10/07/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jars actually do better while colonizing is the 70-79 degree range rather than in the 80s because the temperature inside the jar is slightly more than outside You look like youre putting good effort in tho dude
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TedTheHighlighter said: Jars actually do better while colonizing is the 70-79 degree range rather than in the 80s because the temperature inside the jar is slightly more than outside You look like youre putting good effort in tho dude 
I try to be as close as I can't to a perfectionist when it comes to me doing new things. Thanks for the advice.
I'm going to dunk and roll these cakes putting them in a poor mans pod. I shouldn't shock them too should I? Also later down the road once its closer to fruiting time I'll have a question about a bulb I have and weather or not its proper to use. I'll snap a picture of it later.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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I suggest colonizing at 75 degrees. I colonize everything at 75.
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Don't use a pmp......
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Lookin good man, just be careful taking pictures; try not to tip the jar too much or you'll drop some nasty stuff through the verm layer!
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: PhlacidWeenis]
#22349260 - 10/08/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: Don't use a pmp......
And your reasons as to why not?
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PhlacidWeenis said: Lookin good man, just be careful taking pictures; try not to tip the jar too much or you'll drop some nasty stuff through the verm layer!
Yeah I try not to tilt them too far. But if I don't I can't really get good pictures. I think I'm just going to stop taking pictures of the bottom of them until later on in the process.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22349964 - 10/08/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because almost every other popular FC is better than a PMP.
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wowimflabbergasted said: Because almost every other popular FC is better than a PMP.
Sounds more like an opinion than factual.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Mmk then
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I mean unless you've some facts or bits of information to back up your claim, how am I suppose to know if you're right or just going off you're personal preference?
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PMPs lack FAE and are buit pretty much to just keep humidity. They've fallen out of use for that reason. They're just not the best thing to use when you're growing.
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Achillita said: PMPs lack FAE and are buit pretty much to just keep humidity. They've fallen out of use for that reason. They're just not the best thing to use when you're growing.
I thought PMPs were made with the airs pumps in order to cover the FAE?
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It doesn't work anywhere near as well as it sounds man. The air in PMPs usally get stale, and the cakes do best with slight fluctuation. Humidity isn't really super important in growing. There just needs to be water evaporating off of the cakes.
A SGFC has been shown to work way better than a PMP. Here's a link to someone doing an experiment. It's not very fleshed out, but they have some good points. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13925313
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Yea SGFC's with perlite have been a proven excellent fruiting chamber. Probs the best way to go
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TedTheHighlighter said: Yea SGFC's with perlite have been a proven excellent fruiting chamber. Probs the best way to go
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Achillita said: It doesn't work anywhere near as well as it sounds man. The air in PMPs usally get stale, and the cakes do best with slight fluctuation. Humidity isn't really super important in growing. There just needs to be water evaporating off of the cakes.
A SGFC has been shown to work way better than a PMP. Here's a link to someone doing an experiment. It's not very fleshed out, but they have some good points. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13925313
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Thanks for the advice once again guys. I'll be making a SGFC instead of a PMP. Sorry for doubting you flabber.
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All good
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Looking forward to updated pictures tomorrow morning.
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Hand this laying around. Would it work for my fruiting chamber?

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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Achillita]
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Also make sure your fruiting chamber has clear sides. Its okay if the top isnt clear tho but it might help
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TedTheHighlighter said: Also make sure your fruiting chamber has clear sides. Its okay if the top isnt clear tho but it might help
I went to Walmart. They have a 62L tub and a 72L tub. The 62L tub has a clear lid but doesn't fit as tight as the 72. But Walmart was out of stock of the clear lids for the 72 which fits a lot tighter. So I guess ongoing to end up getting a black lid for the 72 and putting a plexiglass window in the top.
Is 72L a decent size chamber?
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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62 L should be fine. You have 6 cakes? I've done 12 in a 30L sgfc, although I did have to double stack them . Either one should give you room to expand the number of cakes you fruit.
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October 9th Finally went and checked on them today. And here are the results.
Jar A: A lot of new growth.


Jar B: Currently my leading jar in growth. It's the only jar that has growth on opposite sides of the jar.



Jar C: Coming a long ways from showing no signs of life at all Jar C has shown its first signs of life on the side. But check out the bottom! My assumption that it was growing from the inside out was correct.



Jar D: A lot of new growth. What are these fuzzy things to the upper right side of the growth?


Jar E:


Jar F:


All the jars have made quite some progress since the last time I've seen them. I've lowered the temperature in the closet to 79 degrees and I'm going to monitor the growth and compare the difference.
I also will soon beginning gathering the supplies for my fruiting chamber.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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October 12th I lowered the temperature of the closet to 79 degrees. I haven't noted any significant increase or decrease in the growing of the mycelium so I've left it there. The jars have started having a bit of condensation on the inside of the jars is this normal? Other than the water starting to appear on the insides of the jars, everything seems to be going according to plan. I've had a contamination scare. But it's too soon to tell if it is or not. So we will see.
Here are the updated pictures.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Do you have a small hole in the lid?
Just checking because I was seeing if there needs to be air exchange while myc develops and while sanitation occurs.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Roostertail]
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Roostertail said: Do you have a small hole in the lid?
Just checking because I was seeing if there needs to be air exchange while myc develops and while sanitation occurs.
There are 4 small holes in the lid of each jar. And I do believe there must be air exchange for it to grow. I'm not quite experience enough to give you all the terms and definition.
But someone correct me if I'm wrong but there should be at least some air exchange in order for FAE.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22372534 - 10/13/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gas exchange, save fresh air for fruiting.
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I found this tub at Staples today. It's a 64L storage bin. However it's only ~13ins tall. Is this tall enough?

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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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That height should be fine. Your substrate only goes about 2.5 to 3 inches high leaving you enough head room. I do question the lid for that container though. Is it an imperfect seal or does it seal pretty tight? From the looks of it, it might not provide enough FAE.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Kalistis]
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Caelistis said: That height should be fine. Your substrate only goes about 2.5 to 3 inches high leaving you enough head room. I do question the lid for that container though. Is it an imperfect seal or does it seal pretty tight? From the looks of it, it might not provide enough FAE.
Does it really matter how tight the lid is though if I'm going to be drilling a lot of holes into it for a SGFC?
As far as the lid goes, it's got a slight over hang. And doesn't have a sealing strip in it. It buckles down, so it's kind of tight, but it's not air tight. It's definitely not a perfect seal.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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You have very good rhizomorphic growth. And the condensation is normal. It's because the temperature on the inside is slightly warmer than the temperature on the outside. You look like you're in the clear buddy. Try not to handle them too much as that will increase odds of contamination. For you're first grow you seem to be doing great man. Keep it up, you're very close to the fun part.
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I favorited this post by the way, I love seeing first time growers and watching their process. It's exciting. Keep us updated bro.
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I went and checked on the jars today. They are doing well. I'll add the pictures of them for today to the first post later tonight.
I have a couple questions though for now.
1. Is growth like this normal? This jar of mine is growing from the top to the bottom. And it looks like it has quite a bit of growth around and even into the contamination layer of the verm. Also none of my other jars really have this snowflake looking look to them.



2. I'm getting a second closet(Different closet than the jars.) ready for my fruiting chamber. I'm already bought all the stuff, the humidity in the closet currently is about 40-50%. I was wondering could I put a humidifer into the closet in the opposite corner from the fruiting chamber to bring the humidity of the whole closet closer to 90? In hopes of having to mist less, but I will be fanning and misting regardless. Just wondering.
Other than these questions. Today I bought my perlite and my Sterlite tote, and I drilled all the holes into it already. Also bought an analog thermometer/hydrometer.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Wow, i can tell you've done your research which is great. Congrats on joining the community. Everything looks great, you'll have some nice cubes soon. Cheers!
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That "snowflake" growth is good. It's called rhizomorphic growth. It means that your mycelium is really healthy. And it growing from top to bottom is totally normal. Nothing to worry about. After you nail this grow you should look into doing a mono tub. Much larger yield, and it's basically set and forget. No fanning or misting or any of that extra shit. Way more bang for your buck. I started out doing jars just like you, then I did mono tub and I'll never go back. Good luck dude. You're doing great.
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Looking good bro...keep sticking to the tek Youll be all before you know it. PF-tek got me off to a great start.
Next you can take prints/clones of fruits on agar for some really interesting shit.
Be warned though, you're embarking on one of the most addicting yet rewarding hobbies.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: pitbullfan]
#22408564 - 10/20/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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October 19th
Having a busy week I finally got to go check on the jars, and this is what I've found. I found it easier to take a picture of what parts the jar had left to colonize versus taking a picture of what was already done. Here are they are, and I'll have a couple questions as well.
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Jar B The outside of this jar is completely covered and I'd assume technically in the consolidation stage.



Jar C This jar was once the only jar not showing life, it is now the second one to reach the consolidation stage.



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These are the couple questions I have as of right now.
1. Is the very dense white around the area that is left to colonize on Jar D normal? It doesn't look like any of the rest of the jars or even any of the rest of that one jar.
2. Would it be best to wait until all of the jars to finish the consolidation stage to birth them? Or would it be best to birth the jars as they are finished one at a time?
3. I plan on using the dunk and roll method, is this a wise decision? Also if I go through with the dunk and roll method would it be best to roll them in fine or coarse verm?
4. What do I need to do to the perlite before putting it into my fruiting chamber? I've read that some people rinse it off and bake it for awhile before soaking it to put it in their chambers.
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1. Yes it's normal. The substrate is probably squished up to the glass making it harder for the mycelium to get a hold of it. Not a problem.
2. It's really up to you. Either way works. I would wait though, extra consolidation isn't going to hurt the first ones that are consolidating right now, plus your cakes will let you know when they're ready to fruit by pinning. You'll see little squished invitro pins on the wall of the glass.
3. Yes. Absolutely dunk and roll. You'll get much better flushes. Dunk and roll between every flush. Either verm works, although I hear fine is better. Personally I used coarse when I used to do cakes and it came out fine, once again your choice
4. Definitely rinse the hell out of your perlite. I did a 10% H202 to 90% water when it was all said and done, just to keep it fresh and clean.
Good luck bud. Keep it up, you're almost there.
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Handslikehouses said: 1. Yes it's normal. The substrate is probably squished up to the glass making it harder for the mycelium to get a hold of it. Not a problem.
2. It's really up to you. Either way works. I would wait though, extra consolidation isn't going to hurt the first ones that are consolidating right now, plus your cakes will let you know when they're ready to fruit by pinning. You'll see little squished invitro pins on the wall of the glass.
3. Yes. Absolutely dunk and roll. You'll get much better flushes. Dunk and roll between every flush. Either verm works, although I hear fine is better. Personally I used coarse when I used to do cakes and it came out fine, once again your choice
4. Definitely rinse the hell out of your perlite. I did a 10% H202 to 90% water when it was all said and done, just to keep it fresh and clean.
Good luck bud. Keep it up, you're almost there.
Thanks for the anwsers. Closer towards the end of the consolidation period I'll post another update.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Looks great man, cant wait to see your fruits! GT's are a beautiful specimen, just collected a few GT's today from my pf cakes. They fruit very nicely on cakes IME.
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Nice! We both started growing GT at about the same time XD Can't wait to see how it turns out.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: MrSturgill]
#22416957 - 10/22/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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October 21st All jars are completely covered on the outsides and as of the 22nd I will consider them all in the consolidation state.
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I'll be beginning the dunk and roll process next Thursday. I also took the time today to start setting up my chamber.
The Chamber I've set the chamber up in a closet separate than the one used to colonize the jars. The shotgun chamber was suppose to be 2 inches off of a shelf, however I chose to suspend it in the air using some old Pepsi crates I had laying around. I believe that this would make a decent airflow underneath the chamber. Here are some pictures of what I have so far.





Any suggestions or changes anyone think I should make to get the chamber ready before hand?
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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You're about to knock that shit out the park... just keep doin what you're doin.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: LocN9ne]
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LocN9ne said: You're about to knock that shit out the park... just keep doin what you're doin.
Doing my best. Goes to show that it pays off in the end to do as much research as possible.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Good fuckin job dude. Once you experience how terrible fanning/misting is, you'll definitely be experienced enough and ready to move on to bulk. Can't wait to see those fruits!
I'm about to pick a bunch of these right now. Got home late from work unfortunately so I let these go a lot further than I usually do but whatever. Look into monotubs man, I think you'll do very well at it.
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Handslikehouses said: Good fuckin job dude. Once you experience how terrible fanning/misting is, you'll definitely be experienced enough and ready to move on to bulk. Can't wait to see those fruits!
I'm about to pick a bunch of these right now. Got home late from work unfortunately so I let these go a lot further than I usually do but whatever. Look into monotubs man, I think you'll do very well at it.

Already doing my research for them. If you wanna point me in the direction for the best tek for it I wouldn't complain but I think I've got the just of it already. You think rye berries is the best grain to use?
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Mad Season]
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I second oats! Easy prep. WBS was pretty easy too.
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Mad Season said: Any grain is fine. I love oats for the ease of prep and moisture content. I like millet for the inoculation points.
Some great tek links: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20541405
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Thanks for the advice. I was going to go ahead and order my spores. Syringes should be fine to knock these up right? I wanted to go ahead and get my order on the way though while I do all my research.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Mad Season]
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Mad Season said: Any grain is fine. I love oats for the ease of prep and moisture content. I like millet for the inoculation points.
Some great tek links: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20541405
My dunk and roll is going to start Thursday so I took the time to set up my chamber with perlite to test the parameters. And here is what it looks like. I also have a couple questions if someone doesn't mind answering them. First the pictures.

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Now the questions.
I have a cold mist humidifier. Its set up underneath the chamber. I know its not needed but could it hurt to have it on low to maintain a higher humidity and possibly having to mist less?

I moved my light temporarily to the socket in the closest. Could I leave the light here for the duration of the fruiting? Or should I move it back to where it was?
Where it is currently. Its a lot brighter than it looks due to the focus.

Where it was.

I was checking my jars today. It was the first time I've seen them since the beginning of their consolidation. And they mycelium is starting to look fuzzy why is this?@
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Tawksin said: My dunk and roll is going to start Thursday so I took the time to set up my chamber with perlite to test the parameters. And here is what it looks like. I also have a couple questions if someone doesn't mind answering them. First the pictures.

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ok I'm no expert so my advice should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm sure someone will be around to correct me if I'm wrong. Personally I would take that sgfc out of the closet, if that's not an option, at least move it more towards the middle of the closet for better air circulation.
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Tawksin said: Now the questions.
I have a cold mist humidifier. Its set up underneath the chamber. I know its not needed but could it hurt to have it on low to maintain a higher humidity and possibly having to mist less?

Humidity is not nearly as important as fae and proper misting. The main trigger for pinning is evaporation off of the cakes, that being said I've never seen or heard of anyone using one so I don't know. Probably not needed but hey do what you want, probably won't hurt anything, might not help, but I don't think it'll hurt.
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Tawksin said: I moved my light temporarily to the socket in the closest. Could I leave the light here for the duration of the fruiting? Or should I move it back to where it was?
Where it is currently. Its a lot brighter than it looks due to the focus.

Where it was.

Light is only a secondary pinning trigger, so as long as they're getting some exposure they should be fine. Put it wherever works best for you, looks fine to me.
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If I'm not mistaken that's a result of the cake shrinking inside the jar, which is normal during consolidation. During colonization the mycelium is pressed up against the glass, as the cake shrinks and pulls away from the sides it creates a little space where the mycelium can grow out a little bit. This is also where in vitro pins can form.
Hope I helped, anyone feel free to jump in and correct me or add something I might've missed.
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Tawksin said: My dunk and roll is going to start Thursday so I took the time to set up my chamber with perlite to test the parameters. And here is what it looks like. I also have a couple questions if someone doesn't mind answering them. First the pictures.

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ok I'm no expert so my advice should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm sure someone will be around to correct me if I'm wrong. Personally I would take that sgfc out of the closet, if that's not an option, at least move it more towards the middle of the closet for better air circulation.
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Tawksin said: Now the questions.
I have a cold mist humidifier. Its set up underneath the chamber. I know its not needed but could it hurt to have it on low to maintain a higher humidity and possibly having to mist less?

Humidity is not nearly as important as fae and proper misting. The main trigger for pinning is evaporation off of the cakes, that being said I've never seen or heard of anyone using one so I don't know. Probably not needed but hey do what you want, probably won't hurt anything, might not help, but I don't think it'll hurt.
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Tawksin said: I moved my light temporarily to the socket in the closest. Could I leave the light here for the duration of the fruiting? Or should I move it back to where it was?
Where it is currently. Its a lot brighter than it looks due to the focus.

Where it was.

Light is only a secondary pinning trigger, so as long as they're getting some exposure they should be fine. Put it wherever works best for you, looks fine to me.
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Tawksin said: I was checking my jars today. It was the first time I've seen them since the beginning of their consolidation. And they mycelium is starting to look fuzzy why is this?@
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If I'm not mistaken that's a result of the cake shrinking inside the jar, which is normal during consolidation. During colonization the mycelium is pressed up against the glass, as the cake shrinks and pulls away from the sides it creates a little space where the mycelium can grow out a little bit. This is also where in vitro pins can form.
Hope I helped, anyone feel free to jump in and correct me or add something I might've missed.
Sadly taking the chamber out of a closet is not an option. However, we are in the process of clearing the closet out(completely) and the chamber will be moved to the center of the room and the closet will be used for nothing but strictly fruiting purposes.
As far as the humidifier goes, it doesn't seem to affect the humidity in the chamber at all, so I've chosen not to continue using it.
For my decision on the light placement, the light is going to stay to the center of the room, however after I center the chamber I will be lowering it slightly closer to the top of it.
Thanks for your answers and you were of great help.
Today marks the end of the consolidation period and the birth of the cakes. I'll be doing so later today before I go into work. Stay tuned for pictures.
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Tawksin said: Today marks the end of the consolidation period and the birth of the cakes. I'll be doing so later today before I go into work. Stay tuned for pictures.
Awesome! I birthed one of my cakes last night, I'll have 4-5 more birthed next week. Very exciting right?
Lookin forward to the pics.
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Awesome! I birthed one of my cakes last night, I'll have 4-5 more birthed next week. Very exciting right?
Lookin forward to the pics.
More than exciting, I've been anticipating this day since I started this venture, lol.
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I went ahead and skipped taking pictures of the dunk and roll process. I mean, come on, who wants to see giant marahmellow like objects floating in a pot?
Fruiting
The cakes were dunked and rolled and placed in the chamber that has been maintained at 99% humidity and 72 degrees for the last two days. The cakes were allowed to sit in the chamber for an hour before being misted. Then being misted every thirty minutes for the next two hours. The timer on the light has been set to 12 hours on and 12 hours off. The on hours being from noon until midnight. Here are the cakes in their new home.



This is the cakes after they were misted the first time.

The closet I had the chamber in is now clear of any other objects on the ground floor and the chamber was centered away from the walls as suggested.

My question for this entry.(It seems I have at least one with every entry lol)
I feel like I reasonably placed my cakes but do you think I should put them even closer together?
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a proper sgfc... it's like a unicorn.
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You may need to add more perlite so keep an eye on it. hHumidity may be the only issue if you have any. Don't mist more thinking it helps raise humidity it just waterlogs the cakes.
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a proper sgfc... it's like a unicorn.
Thank you very much.
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You may need to add more perlite so keep an eye on it. hHumidity may be the only issue if you have any. Don't mist more thinking it helps raise humidity it just waterlogs the cakes.
I was actually thinking the same thing. The humidity has been at 99% the last three days. But I was considering adding more just to be safe.
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Its normal for my cakes to be colonizing the verm it was rolled in now that they are in my fruiting chamber?
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Should be fine
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Do they look like they are being misted properly? Sorry just being overly cautious. I feel like I've done pretty good up til here and I don't want to mess anything up.
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No I don't think so. Mist 3-4 times a day or whenever they aren't glistening..but don't do it more that.
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Third day that the cakes have been in the chamber. No signs of pins, although the cakes have taken over the verm they were rolled in with a more fluffy like mycelium.
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Its been almost a week Since the cakes were introduced to the fruiting chamber, but I've still yet to see any pins. I know that it can take up to two weeks, but when if at all should I consider redunking them?
Although I don't think the moisture of the cake is the problem they are still pretty heavy after the soak.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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Keep them glistening man. The pics 2 days ago look dry. If you keep them like that you need yo be misting more.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Mad Season]
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That picture was taken right before misting them. I've currently been misting 3 times a day and fanning about 6.
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Make sure you mist first then fan. Evaporation is a pinning trigger.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
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May not have been fully consolidated, just keep following the tek, it'll happen.
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You should only be fanning right after misting. Keep your sgfc closed to maintain RH unless you really need to open it to mist/fan. If you're worried about fanning for FAE, don't, you have a proper sgfc, that will provide plenty of FAE.
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Is it normal for cakes to experience extreme blue bruising after misting?
Yesterday after I misted a lot of the cakes had a pretty bad case of blue bruising. And then after waking up today they were a lot less bruised.
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just make sure you are standing back a bit, only thing that would do it was pressure
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Don't mist directly at them, kinda let the water fall onto them.
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What they said^ You should be aiming above the cakes (like over the sgfc by about a foot) and allowing the fine mist to settle on them.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: MrSturgill]
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This was news to me yesterday. SGFC DO NOT REQUIRE FANNING. Just a remove the lid loft a quick flick of the wrist and that it NO MORE. when you mist. Also no fan in the room
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Fanning isn't necessarily "required" but is standard practice and does serve a purpose right after misting. Pretty much covers it here, other threads will more or less tell you the same thing, just do some searching.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: MrSturgill]
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Ya but in a proper chamber, 5 minutes of the fae will do the equivalent of what your quick fanning does. Can't say I've fanned since 2013.
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Fair enough
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November 8th Just when you start to slightly doubt yourself. Mushies prove you wrong. First beautiful sign of pins. Not a crazy pin set. But pins nonetheless. So far pins on 5 out of 6 cakes.


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Excellent. You'll have fully mature mushrooms in around 3-4 days give or take. Finally, all your hard work has paid off. Shit's exhilarating isn't it?
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My partner scared the shit out of me. He texted me telling me I should come over and look at the cakes at like 7am I rushed over around 8 to find these. I think I about cried lol
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Handslikehouses said: Excellent. You'll have fully mature mushrooms in around 3-4 days give or take. Finally, all your hard work has paid off. Shit's exhilarating isn't it?
My partner scared the shit out of me. He texted me telling me I should come over and look at the cakes at like 7am I rushed over around 8 to find these. I think I about cried lol
Lol that's awesome. Have you started looking into bulk yet?
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My partner scared the shit out of me. He texted me telling me I should come over and look at the cakes at like 7am I rushed over around 8 to find these. I think I about cried lol
Lol that's awesome. Have you started looking into bulk yet?
I have 10 jars of grain colonizing ATM.
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Good man
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How are your cakes doing?
Looking forward to doing monotubs. But I've been considering doing both.
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About to go into day 3. I'm like an giddy school girl and I feel like time is crawling by.
I do have a question about harvesting if anyone wants to give me their opinions.
I've read that prime time to harvest is after the veil breaks but before the fruits drop their spores. Is this true? The reason I ask is because some of the pictures I've seen of mature GT don't seem to have veils so how will I know if that's the case?
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I agree it is the right time to harvest. If you can't see a veil then look for the cap pulling away from the stem and visible gills.
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Thank you. Looking forward to my first ever harvest later this week. Is there a specific type of scissors I should use or will any pair work?
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Don't use scissors. Gently twist and pull. Using scissors will leave a small part of the stipe on your cake which will end up rotting and contamming your grow. Trust me. Just be gentle with them. And yes, highest potency is achieved by picking them right as the veil is tearing. But honestly even if you leave them to full maturity they still hit pretty hard haha
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I would recommend twist and pull on cakes probably but that's about it.
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I twist and pull in my bulk grows and am very happy with results. Often new pins pop up right under the old. No bruising either. The tubs that I've seen cut are bruised as fuck. I saw that RR recommends cutting and that mushroom farms cut, but I think they cut to save time. The twist and pull takes a fair amount of time or you can pull up substrate.
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Take the sub out and slice them suckers off in a matter of minutes...never had a single bad thing happen from doing that.
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I don't doubt that. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
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Absolutely. 
I think my main thing is not having coir/verm all over the base of the mushrooms. I don't have time to clean all that crap off and it's easier if it's not even there in the first place haha
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Sweet avatar flabber
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 If I'm not mistaken a few of these are getting pretty close to harvesting time.
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Just as the veil is tearing from the stem or just before is best  That one to the side of the cake in the 1st pic already tore its veil, you could probably pick that one now.
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I plan on picking most of them tomorrow morning.
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How are your cakes doing?
Looking forward to doing monotubs. But I've been considering doing both.
Very well! I've got a flush off of each of the 5 cakes for a total of 220g wet. cake 1 is gettin ready for flush 2. started dunking 3 more cakes tonight. Sorry for the time it took me to reply, I was trippin off the first flush the night u posted this. Fresh shrooms are she shiz.
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  If I'm not mistaken a few of these are getting pretty close to harvesting time.
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Might want to check on those soon if you're still up, you might be surprised how many will be ready for harvest.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: MrSturgill]
#22512564 - 11/12/15 04:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My god you must be stoked bro
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: MrSturgill]
#22512566 - 11/12/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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How are your cakes doing?
Looking forward to doing monotubs. But I've been considering doing both.
Very well! I've got a flush off of each of the 5 cakes for a total of 220g wet. cake 1 is gettin ready for flush 2. started dunking 3 more cakes tonight. Sorry for the time it took me to reply, I was trippin off the first flush the night u posted this. Fresh shrooms are she shiz.
Fresh shrooms are the shiz!
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: MrSturgill]
#22512628 - 11/12/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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How are your cakes doing?
Looking forward to doing monotubs. But I've been considering doing both.
Very well! I've got a flush off of each of the 5 cakes for a total of 220g wet. cake 1 is gettin ready for flush 2. started dunking 3 more cakes tonight. Sorry for the time it took me to reply, I was trippin off the first flush the night u posted this. Fresh shrooms are she shiz.
Idk if I'll be eating any fresh ones this time around. After all it is my first time doing shros ever.
Also between flushes do you soak for 12 or 24 hours? And do you reroll them?
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22513207 - 11/12/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anywhere from 12-24 will work, the longer the better, and re roll them.
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??? Pretty sure you shouldn't re roll. Just like how we don't re case.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Mad Season]
#22513250 - 11/12/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: cronicr]
#22513456 - 11/12/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shit I've always re rolled. Never hurt anything.
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Cakes have been soaked and reintroduced to fruiting.
My first flush came out to be 120g wet.
Not going to mark this down as a great success. But a success nonetheless.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22545959 - 11/19/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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First grow, I think it's a success. Good job. Now enjoy the fruits of your labor.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: MrSturgill]
#22549437 - 11/19/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Great job, friend! Rating added. Welcome to the community.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Mycologist217]
#22551098 - 11/20/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I couldn't of done it without the help and encouragement of the wonderful people of this forum. Thank you guys.
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: Tawksin]
#22551110 - 11/20/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: First Time: Golden Teacher PF-TEK [Re: cronicr]
#22551687 - 11/20/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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A couple pictures from the second flush. I'm only harvested 3 out of 6 cakes so far for the second flush. But have harvested 105grams wet so far. Estimating it to be around 200 grams after the last 3 cakes finish.

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