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Grafting Competition 2016 Questions, Comments, and Ideas
    #22338559 - 10/05/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I was hoping it would be an annual thing. A place for all shroomerites to show off their grafting skills and go for the glory. But I haven't seen one for this year.

I would be very interested in another competition.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/18754880


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #22339553 - 10/06/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The last one we ran got off to a good start, but by the end, I think there was only 3 of us left across the various categories. That kinda dampens enthusiasm to run another!
Maybe we could plan one for spring time, a flip from the previous ones running across northern hemisphere winters, if there seems to be enough call for it.  :strokebeard:


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #22339723 - 10/06/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm in. :wink:


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: LSoares]
    #22339806 - 10/06/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

sounds interesting


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22342110 - 10/06/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would enter this time now that I realize it's not as difficult as I assumed it would be. I've followed all of the competitions since I've been a member here, but have never participated.


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: prismism]
    #22342291 - 10/06/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I tried for the last one and basically dropped out when I moved.
But if we held another I would be in it to win it.

We don't even have to have prizes donated, although it does make it more interesting.

And growlogs are great and all, but people don't always post enough pictures to keep things interesting. With the competition, picture documentation is required and gives us more cactus porn than we could ever hope for. :dancer:


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #22344374 - 10/07/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I only have 3 grafts at the moment, and only one of them, would be worth showing. I have already posted images of it in other forum areas. It is taking off now finally looking real nice. (Ariocarpus fissuratus v. hintonii), On Pereskiopsis porteri.


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #22344402 - 10/07/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

For the grafting competition we start from scratch, kizatzhaddarak; meaning, from the seed (of the scion, of course).


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: LSoares]
    #22344474 - 10/07/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Does it matter what kind of seedling/s and base? the last contest was pretty specific as to species. I suppose like the last one (which I just read). . . there will probably have to be different Catagories. So then, I suppose I have to germinate seed specifically for this event.

Do the graft bases have to be (rooted at the same time as germination, or can they already be started and ready to accept the scion?) IE, Do we have to root our graft bases from the get go, too?

I am unsure with the conditions in my area, house, outside.. etc. . if I can get the graft to flower in (9-mo time); as was the time frame from the last contest, But I can for sure keep a graft log for the contest.

I would be interested in this contest, as well. I suppose someone should sponsor it, and clearly define all rules and parameters, as before.

but,.. I am in.  I'll keep an eye on threads for this.


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #22344554 - 10/07/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, sounds interesting. But we need clear rules and someone to be the head of the event.


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Argyreia]
    #22344781 - 10/07/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Let's use this thread for suggestions for categories, and rules & conditions for a future event :smile:

Maybe aim something for spring, giving people time to prepare stock, acquire seed and so on.

For reference, these were the past 2 we ran:

Grafting Competition 2012/2013

Cactus Grafting Competition 2013/2014

I liked naum's choice of categories in the last one

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Species Specific:

    Quickest to Flower Lophophora
    Quickest to Flower Astrophytum
    Quickest to Flower Turbinicarpus


Overall:

    Best Freak
    Most Beautiful Scion
    Best Grafting




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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #22344916 - 10/07/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It sounds awesome. I'm already preparing an army of stocks. We should add quickest ariocarpus to flower. :grin:


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Argyreia]
    #22345284 - 10/07/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As with the legalities from before.. some people can't or (shouldn't) grow some species for legality reasons.

Might I suggest the following genus: Trichocereus, Gymnocalycium, Ariocarpus, Astrophytum, Mammillaria, Turbinicarpus, and (Other). 

Other could be just about any other single species plant as there are a few of those cacti in taxonomy.

Or maybe simplified catagories: columnear, minature, medium sized globe, or barrel. I dunno. .. I suppose I am just brainstorming.

The thing is even grafted some plants have differing growth rates and flowering cycles.. . so. . I dunno. We could do a single genus, too I suppose.


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #22346749 - 10/07/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Mostly_Harmless said:
Let's use this thread for suggestions for categories, and rules & conditions for a future event :smile:

Maybe aim something for spring, giving people time to prepare stock, acquire seed and so on.

For reference, these were the past 2 we ran:

Grafting Competition 2012/2013

Cactus Grafting Competition 2013/2014

I liked naum's choice of categories in the last one

Quote:

Species Specific:

    Quickest to Flower Lophophora
    Quickest to Flower Astrophytum
    Quickest to Flower Turbinicarpus


Overall:

    Best Freak
    Most Beautiful Scion
    Best Grafting







I agree with those categories, however if anyone sows L. alberto vojtechii it should be placed in its own category due to its natural tendency to flower much younger and smaller than other lophs.

We should add a few more sections to the overall category as well. The more options we have for people to attempt to win, the more contestants will come flowing in. And hopefully more than 3 people will stick it out to the end.


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #22347160 - 10/07/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm in  :uptosomething:


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: spaceman101]
    #22349251 - 10/08/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh I am In, for sure. . Its just I need to know what seed to get.. and if I can use rooted grafting stock.. or If I have to root mine.

I am in it for the long haul regardless of how long it takes to get mine to flower. lol


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: kizatzhaddarak]
    #22349513 - 10/08/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The Rules:
  • Be honest; cheaters ruin it for everyone.
  • Be respectful
  • Have fun!

  • Take lots of photos. It keeps the contest interesting and documentation showing the progression of your work is required.
  • Post progression photos in this thread at least once a month, but please not any more than once a week (except for timelapses of course). If you do not, your entry may be disqualified.

  • All scion seed must be sown after 12:00 PM UTC September 12, 2013.
  • No new scion seed may be sown after 12:00 PM UTC November 12, 2013.
  • There are no limitations on stock: anything goes.
  • You may re-graft whenever you feel like it.
  • You may sow as many seeds as you'd like.
  • You may make as many grafts as you'd like.
  • You must sow your own seed and make your own grafts
  • Normal, hybrid, irradiated, chemically treated, etc. seeds are all allowed.
  • In vitro treatments and micropropogation are allowed.

  • Quickest to Flower time will be decided determined using the flower post time minus the sow date picture post time. This means you need to take a picture and post a picture of when you sow and when you see your flower.
  • The deadline to challenge a Quickest to Flower entry is 62 days from the first flower posted per species category. This is to allow for a challenge from someone who sowed later in the 2 month sowing window.

  • Overall contest entries may be from any seed originating from a member the Cactaceae not just the 3 quickest to flower genera.
  • Overall categories will be judged ~10 months from the contest start date.
  • Overall categories winners will be decided by a popular vote.
  • You will be required to limit your final entries for the Overall contest polls to no more than 3 entries per category. For example, you can make 100+ grafts, but you cannot enter more than 3 into the best freak poll, 3 into the most beautiful poll, and 3 into the best graft poll.





Going from the last competition it looks like we can have whatever we want with grafting stocks, unless we all make some big changes to past years rules.


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #22351993 - 10/08/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No grafting competition? 


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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #22353288 - 10/09/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I agree with those categories, however if anyone sows L. alberto vojtechii it should be placed in its own category due to its natural tendency to flower much younger and smaller than other lophs.





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Re: So what happened to the grafting competitions? [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #22353719 - 10/09/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Indeed.

Hopefully we will have a seperate category for alberto vojtechii, we can't exclude these wonderful little guys! We just need to rally our users and get people hyped about this thing so we have a decent turn out.

I've been wanting to get my hands on some av seed myself but have been waiting for a decent paycheck;)


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