|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Sivarted
Stranger
Registered: 08/22/15
Posts: 1,084
Last seen: 2 months, 10 days
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Sivarted] 2
#25336745 - 07/20/18 09:07 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sivarted said: I thought I saw reference to them somewhere in here but cant find it...
Anybody use the similar style ziploc weather shield 60 quart tubs with 6 latches? Do they have the same sort of gap at the latches when the lid is flipped, and if so, have the extra gaps on the ends caused drying issues for you?
Strongly attracted to those because I found them in black as well, so I can have a black tub and swap a clear lid onto it.
And after having a couple shipped, the answer is...
The latches and lid are different enough that they dont have the same style of gap (or any significant gap at all) when the lid is flipped.
Looks like there *might* be a bit of room for airflow all the way around the lid, but I might have to give the lids a little tilt when possible.
They're going to be in a closet with a fan circulating air on low 24/7, and the door open at least an hour or so every day, so hopefully things work out. I'll just have to keep an eye on them.
Oh well. Spawning into them on Monday anyway, my first spawn from a clone culture since recently restarting after a couple years away from growing.
So...
here goes.
|
ristorcius
Stranger
Registered: 07/11/18
Posts: 50
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: ristorcius] 1
#25337335 - 07/20/18 04:24 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
update from my first post.
we're at day 26. it feels slow, like there are long periods where nothing happens, but i'm patient and know it looks fine.
the corners of my tub seem to dry out more than the rest.
i have not bothered to mist at all.
in the past couple days, small "dots" have formed. i'm a little fuzzy on the terms used, whether these are primordia or knots or what.
this evening, there are the first signs of what i believe to be pins -- immature mushrooms with a darkening cap.
take a peek.


if things continue to go well, i will be taking spore prints for storage, tissue samples for clones, and i'll be rolling with some agar in around a week.
|
Caps McGee
Grandaddy Smurfshack



Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14,357
Loc: ally known as ...
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: ristorcius] 1
#25337854 - 07/20/18 08:28 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
White=knots, primordia are the pinheads prior to growing stipes,and then pins, and then mushrooms! You sir, do in fact have pins! CONGRATS!
Edited by Caps McGee (07/20/18 08:41 PM)
|
Psicomb



Registered: 01/13/18
Posts: 4,636
Loc: the womb
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#25338487 - 07/21/18 07:16 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|

First unmodified tub (32qt): TOC at approximately 1:1 ratio using 3 quarts spawn. I think I packed it down a little too much in the center but I'm still very pleased.
Nice work btw fellas
--------------------
When we constantly pull things apart trying to see how it works, we may end up with only an understanding of how to destroy something - nick sand
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Psicomb]
#25338493 - 07/21/18 07:20 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Maybe on that particular tub the lid should be more ajar. Or some people have put little spacers around the lid like erasers or dice to keep the lid cracked a bit on different shape tubs.
Your caps just have mycelium fuzz ive only ever seen from too humid of environment.
|
Psicomb



Registered: 01/13/18
Posts: 4,636
Loc: the womb
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25338516 - 07/21/18 07:40 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
bodhisatta said: Maybe on that particular tub the lid should be more ajar. Or some people have put little spacers around the lid like erasers or dice to keep the lid cracked a bit on different shape tubs.
Your caps just have mycelium fuzz ive only ever seen from too humid of environment.
Okay good stuff, thanks for the heads up. I'll hit the lid with a 45 degree angle. Do you think it could be a phenotype too? I just ask because like 50% of my TOC grows have it. However, these fruits are pretty short so I'm sure inadequate FAE is at least part of the scenario.
I am curious, though, about phenos like that being carried down. Like, these grows are all from the same syringe (cleaned up and g2g'd once), but aren't there millions of spores with tons and tons of different genes, albeit the traits that have really been honed in on and stabilized by growers and whatnot? So if the weird puff is a unique pheno it must've been continuously passed down for a while to make it so stable that it is happening in multiple tubs, right? Or am I way off right now haha I'm stoned and it's early, I need coffee
And, again, that's all just if it is, in fact, a phenotype. That whole spiel means nothing if it's just a FAE thing hah
Examples of my TOC caps:
 
--------------------
When we constantly pull things apart trying to see how it works, we may end up with only an understanding of how to destroy something - nick sand
Edited by Psicomb (07/21/18 07:46 AM)
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Psicomb]
#25338532 - 07/21/18 07:51 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I guess it could be a phenotype or genetic predisposition. I just feel like ive only seen it in stuffy humid grows.
|
Psicomb



Registered: 01/13/18
Posts: 4,636
Loc: the womb
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25338551 - 07/21/18 08:01 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
bodhisatta said: I guess it could be a phenotype or genetic predisposition. I just feel like ive only seen it in stuffy humid grows.
I mean my grow area is a stuffy walk in closet in an old building so I really do feel like what you're saying is playing a part in this. I'm gonna crank the FAE up a notch.
--------------------
When we constantly pull things apart trying to see how it works, we may end up with only an understanding of how to destroy something - nick sand
Edited by Psicomb (07/21/18 09:26 AM)
|
Captain Shadow


Registered: 02/09/18
Posts: 237
Loc: Left Coast
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Psicomb]
#25338698 - 07/21/18 09:25 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
2nd trial, after establishing the base minimal maintenance needed.
Tried increasing FAE twice daily at roughly 12 intervals by off-setting lid just slightly by a few degrees and misting as needed (or not).
I easily over-dried the substrate but was able to revive it by keeping the lid aligned and misting.
The result was quite a bit of side-pinning. I'm just glad I was able to revive it. There is a learning/feeling curve with FAE and misting. Any basic algorithms?
|
Just_A_Noob
Breathing



Registered: 12/30/16
Posts: 6,809
Loc: PNW
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Captain Shadow]
#25338707 - 07/21/18 09:30 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I feel like tubs with taller sides need more fae
-------------------- Wearing a mask is bad for my physical, emotional, and spiritual health. Complying = Consent Wide Mouth 1/2 Pint No-Pour TEK TC Teks & Links
|
Caps McGee
Grandaddy Smurfshack



Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14,357
Loc: ally known as ...
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#25338759 - 07/21/18 09:52 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
That's just it: the tub! How tall it is, area of footprint, shape and fit of the lid, and a little heat from the light is imperative to get those convection currents moving the air around inside the tub as well... my shoeboxes love the closet, but the tub does much better in an open room...
|
JHOVA
Post whore


Registered: 02/17/17
Posts: 4,727
Loc:
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Psicomb]
#25338770 - 07/21/18 09:59 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
that growth thing on the top was common on tombosley8's toc when he was growing it. he mentioned he grows in a very dry environment which you can see from the dry as fuck casing layer of coir on other pics
Quote:
tombosley8 said:
       
-------------------- 🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼 🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿
|
Mateja


Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,948
Loc: Here
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#25338775 - 07/21/18 10:01 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Caps McGee said: That's just it: the tub! How tall it is, area of footprint, shape and fit of the lid, and a little heat from the light is imperative to get those convection currents moving the air around inside the tub as well... my shoeboxes love the closet, but the tub does much better in an open room...
heat generated by the substrate will move the air around, doesn't have to be more scientific than that
-------------------- Cakes inside Water Tub
Edited by Mateja (07/21/18 10:01 AM)
|
pixelpopper
Crap Artist


Registered: 09/20/13
Posts: 4,022
Loc: Dreamland
Last seen: 3 months, 12 days
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: JHOVA]
#25338779 - 07/21/18 10:02 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I've been getting the puffs on the caps of a lot of my fruits lately also... Its not just fuzzy myc tho, its a ball of mushroom tissue
|
Just_A_Noob
Breathing



Registered: 12/30/16
Posts: 6,809
Loc: PNW
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: pixelpopper]
#25338810 - 07/21/18 10:19 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah, heat from substrate is plenty enough. I'm having great results not even using extra lighting. Just lighting from an East facing window
-------------------- Wearing a mask is bad for my physical, emotional, and spiritual health. Complying = Consent Wide Mouth 1/2 Pint No-Pour TEK TC Teks & Links
|
bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,889
Loc: Milky way
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#25338816 - 07/21/18 10:24 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I actually just had some of those puff balls on some malabar fruits. the temperature hit like 80F in my fruiting room for a few days. the tubs were humid as fuck, had to do the opposite of misting and take the lids off for a while to dry things up. but the one tub had those puffy balls and I chocked it up to the wetness. Could also be heat related. I shoulda took a pic but I got to the tub late and it went to spore hell.
|
Caps McGee
Grandaddy Smurfshack



Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14,357
Loc: ally known as ...
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#25338824 - 07/21/18 10:34 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
 These are crazy looking, I want some! LolQuote:
Mateah said: heat generated by the substrate will move the air around, doesn't have to be more scientific than that 
Quote:
Just_A_Noob said: Yeah, heat from substrate is plenty enough. I'm having great results not even using extra lighting. Just lighting from an East facing window
This is very interesting, seeing as I'm working to minimize input without sacrificing conditions/results... I've got some clone culture ready for agar, now I can do true side by side comparisons, I think I enjoy the experimentation with cultivation more than the trip I was after when I started... it's an obsession now; truly considering a career change, going back to school
|
Just_A_Noob
Breathing



Registered: 12/30/16
Posts: 6,809
Loc: PNW
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee] 1
#25338834 - 07/21/18 10:39 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Exactly, I'm down to oats, coir, unmodified tubs, and sunlight. Works just as good if not better than all the other stuff
-------------------- Wearing a mask is bad for my physical, emotional, and spiritual health. Complying = Consent Wide Mouth 1/2 Pint No-Pour TEK TC Teks & Links
|
pixelpopper
Crap Artist


Registered: 09/20/13
Posts: 4,022
Loc: Dreamland
Last seen: 3 months, 12 days
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#25338894 - 07/21/18 11:08 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
bodhisatta said: I actually just had some of those puff balls on some malabar fruits. the temperature hit like 80F in my fruiting room for a few days. the tubs were humid as fuck, had to do the opposite of misting and take the lids off for a while to dry things up. but the one tub had those puffy balls and I chocked it up to the wetness. Could also be heat related. I shoulda took a pic but I got to the tub late and it went to spore hell.
My space is definitely hot.. most days its 80+ where the tubs are, probably more like 85
I think some of my tubs needed to air out a bit more than I was letting them, but some I had problems with surface drying so I mostly backed off doing anything with them... conditions have been strange for me the last couple months, I think largely because its hot & I've been trying to cram all my tubs into a large closet where I used to try to keep them all out in the open room
Quote:
Just_A_Noob said: Exactly, I'm down to oats, coir, unmodified tubs, and sunlight. Works just as good if not better than all the other stuff
I started using an old grow light (just a 4 foot t5 nothing super powered) and I might just go back to ambient room light. I need to do some actual tests comparing if I see any difference because so far I can't really tell much difference between having a light and not having one
|
Caps McGee
Grandaddy Smurfshack



Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14,357
Loc: ally known as ...
|
Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#25338920 - 07/21/18 11:24 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Prefer oats to WBS for any reason?
|
|