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Haus Absolute
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Re: Contamination-Next steps [Re: bodhisatta]
#25276933 - 06/18/18 04:09 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I got a great first flush from one of your other teks (BRF fruiting in the jar), so thanks for that. I'm moving on to this one next. Quick question though - do you cycle the light for fruiting, or just run it constantly?
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Re: Contamination-Next steps [Re: bodhisatta]
#25276943 - 06/18/18 04:15 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Josex said: I wanna add that I don't know where the theory of "soaking grains shaves off colonization times" comes from, it's totally the opposite for me.
Maybe if you prep your grains too dry I can see it benefiting from a soak, but that only means you need to change the way you prep grains, or just add a tad more water to the sub.
It won't improve the yield either. All in all and in my fucking humble opinion, a good way to weaken the culture with no reason and no dividends.
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bodhisatta said: Soaking spawn before spawning is just a good way to wash off mycelium. If you need more moisture just add it to the substrate lol
This is what I was figuring too when I first read about it. As long as your substrate is at ideal field capacity and you maintain proper surface conditions, there shouldn't be an issue! Thanks again
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Re: Contamination-Next steps [Re: bodhisatta]
#25277226 - 06/18/18 06:11 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Soaking spawn before spawning is just a good way to wash off mycelium. If you need more moisture just add it to the substrate lol

Yeah don't do that. The grains really should not have dried out very much from when you prepped them. You're much better off leaving inoculation points from the myc than trying to add back maybe like a teaspoon of water. And if they are dry, just water the sub after you spawn it. Then you have added the water back, and didn't lose a bunch of myc.
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Re: Contamination-Next steps [Re: Munchauzen]
#25277250 - 06/18/18 06:22 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
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bodhisatta said: Soaking spawn before spawning is just a good way to wash off mycelium. If you need more moisture just add it to the substrate lol

Yeah don't do that. The grains really should not have dried out very much from when you prepped them. You're much better off leaving inoculation points from the myc than trying to add back maybe like a teaspoon of water. And if they are dry, just water the sub after you spawn it. Then you have added the water back, and didn't lose a bunch of myc.
Ya, I wasn't planning on doing it unless I had confirmation from a TC as I seen someone on another thread mentioning they did it and mushboy found me the link of a TC that mentions doing this tek. It was an older post and in all my time here I have never come across anyone mentioning this, so I was a little apprehensive about it. Thought I would ask out of curiousity to see what the response would be. Thanks for the feedback. On another note... I posted on your thread Munchauzen about how my jars were looking, as it is my first grain experience and was looking for a TC's opinion. I thought only TC's were aloud to answer questions on the thread, but it seems that the rules have changed! I never did get a response so took it that I had nothing to worry about.
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Re: Contamination-Next steps [Re: Mush Hunter] 1
#25277268 - 06/18/18 06:30 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well yeah the tek is by a TC, but I don't recommend it. There is no set standard for being a TC, we all offer unique viewpoints.
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Re: Contamination-Next steps [Re: Munchauzen]
#25277287 - 06/18/18 06:40 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: Well yeah the tek is by a TC, but I don't recommend it. There is no set standard for being a TC, we all offer unique viewpoints.
True enough! Whatever works best for the individual. I am use to gardening and hydrating soils etc. so I should be able to easily adjust my substrate to obtain proper surface moisture and conditions. Thanks and
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Re: Contamination-Next steps [Re: Mush Hunter]
#25278920 - 06/19/18 02:13 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Been looking forward to giving your tek a try. I got about 10 jars almost colonized. I started with agar, then g to g Not all are from the same strain.I've got about three strains going and a nice looking clone from my first pf tek attempt. I'd like to use smaller monotubs like pasty's. Do you think I can do this with smaller tubs. Like 1 or 2 quarts grain spawn at a time? I like the simplicity of your tek. Thanks!!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25278977 - 06/19/18 02:50 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would use a small tub tek for using small tubs. Like shoeboxes or mini monos
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25281376 - 06/20/18 04:09 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello,
Another Noob here. Been working from BOD's TEKs. Germinated Ecuadorian to agar, did one transfer to another set of agar plates then to oat grain (neither the original or transfer plates developed contaminants, from what I can tell). I think my jars are coming along but looking through this thread, I started to get paranoid. Here are a couple of pics of where I'm at:

Here's a close-up of one jar that appears to me to be fully colonized:

The one jar second from the left has a patch of uncolonized grains (I think I probably just didn't shake vigorously enough once jar got to ~30%).
Do these look ok? Any warning signs? They have built up some condensation as colonization has proceeded. Prior to shaking, I was worried they might be too dry, but now they maybe look a bit wet.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to BOD and everybody else for all the great info. I tried to grow in jars about 20 years ago based on a little blue pamphlet some of you might remember. I got enough yield for me and two friends to get off once, but that's about it. How times have changed. Cheers!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: clan91]
#25281388 - 06/20/18 04:15 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks good from here.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25281394 - 06/20/18 04:20 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice, thanks for the quick feedback! I'm heading out of town for five days on Saturday, so my plan was to spawn to a monotub on Friday and let them do their thing while I'm gone.
Does this seem reasonable, or should I let them sit and spawn once I return?
Thanks again for all the great info!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: clan91]
#25281402 - 06/20/18 04:25 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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That’s up to you, either way will be just fine! spawn away if you want to save 5 days of waiting
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Mateja]
#25281407 - 06/20/18 04:28 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Subtracting five days from the grow time would be to my liking, thank you very much 
I just wanted to make sure it wasn't dumb to mix em up and leave them (although the whole point of the TEK seems to be set it and forget it).
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: clan91]
#25281471 - 06/20/18 05:01 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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They don't care if you're home or not during colonization. And barely care if you're home a few times a week during fruiting
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25281493 - 06/20/18 05:13 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great. Just don't want to piss them off ;-) I'll check back in next week once the tubs are rolling.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: clan91]
#25281620 - 06/20/18 06:13 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I started my first monotub following this thread. Its been in tub for 11 days Mycelium hasn't fully covered surface yet and it's starting to pin. 2 of them maybe an inch already.
Pic is best I can get to show how much surface is covered.
Any advice for better or worse is appreciated.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: TripperWarning]
#25281820 - 06/20/18 07:42 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is my first go at a mono!!

UnBODified. Only using 4 quarts spawn. Started on Sunday. Thanks for the tek man this is defiantly what I've needed!!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: TripperWarning]
#25281940 - 06/20/18 08:31 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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11 days looks like that your spawn was bad.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25282550 - 06/21/18 05:26 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Any strains this won't work with? Will it work with b+? PE? Malabar? Burma?
Also, any gourmet it might work with? Shiitake? Oyster?
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: menacingtrees]
#25282555 - 06/21/18 05:39 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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menacingtrees said: Any strains this won't work with? Will it work with b+? PE? Malabar? Burma?
Also, any gourmet it might work with? Shiitake? Oyster?
B+, pe, Malabar, etc.. are not strains. They're psilocybe cubensis and this tek works with cubes. They're varieties. And any variety has infinity possible strains, some good some bad. Growing from spores you'll have 100's to 1000s of strains in a single grow.
I wouldn't suggest this tek for any edibles, Maybe reishi if you want some antlers
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