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jaw420

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: kmcrae67]
#25200431 - 05/13/18 01:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is my second go at this and my grain is in bags not jars and is done by weight, what would the best way to figure out how many bags per tub, or should is just pour the fully colonized grain in to quart size measurement? One other thing what would be the best substrate for cubes and pans? thanlks for all the help can't wait to start posting pictures.
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jonnerhashe
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jaw420]
#25200547 - 05/13/18 04:47 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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jaw420 said: This is my second go at this and my grain is in bags not jars and is done by weight, what would the best way to figure out how many bags per tub, or should is just pour the fully colonized grain in to quart size measurement? One other thing what would be the best substrate for cubes and pans? thanlks for all the help can't wait to start posting pictures.
I do bags alao. I put 3 pounds of rye in my bags and I use 2 bags (6 pounds) Then in other bags I measure out my hydrayed coir mix for sub into 2x5 pound bags and pastuerize 10 pounds of that. So roughly 16 pounds together and a decent thickness of the sub and spawn. 3/5 spawn to sub ratio seems to do well for me.
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jaw420

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jonnerhashe]
#25204776 - 05/15/18 03:33 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thats awesome, what size tub do you use?
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jonnerhashe
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jaw420]
#25204799 - 05/15/18 04:24 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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jaw420 said: Thats awesome, what size tub do you use?
I use the 54qt ones listed in Bod's Original post. I'm about to get 4 more tubs going!
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ecxtimmy
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jonnerhashe]
#25205272 - 05/15/18 10:35 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ecxtimmy]
#25205458 - 05/15/18 12:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anyone ever have an issue with these specific tubs having slightly warped lids? Maybe I just got a bad couple but it doesnβt seem to sit right when I flip the lid.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Thedenthead]
#25205748 - 05/15/18 03:04 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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All of mine are like that. Its a 50+ quart plastic tub. They're never going to be exact. This isn't machine tolerances its plastic tubs
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kmcrae67
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25209847 - 05/17/18 09:31 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Feedback requested. 18 days since initial spawn. I notice that some are malformed around the cap. Also, I see a few that look like they have green specks of mold. What can I do to prevent this and my god all of the side pins. This is my first unmodified tub attempt.

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: kmcrae67]
#25210568 - 05/17/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Clean spawn and proper conditions. Im guessing substrate was too wet too
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25210588 - 05/17/18 03:32 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Posted a thread elsewhere, but maybe this is a better place.
Using your unmodified monotub tek, and I have been having a lot of issues with side & bottom pins, uneven pinning and squat fruit.

That is one of my tubs I am about to harvest. Too Dry? How hard should I be misting these bad boys?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Marshwood_Bear]
#25210600 - 05/17/18 03:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's about a gallon of water in the substrate your u shouldn't really need to mist at all besides maybe a couple times a week for surface maintenance. And I live where it's pretty dry usually, especially in winter.
Having a goood grasp of surface conditions and fruiting cubes helps a lot
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25210609 - 05/17/18 03:39 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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What would you recommend specifically? Should I try to gauge humidity more? or more FAE?
I was expecting these bad boys to grow a bit taller, so I feel like I might be lacking somewhere I dont realize.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Marshwood_Bear] 1
#25210638 - 05/17/18 03:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't even think about humidity. So long as the mushrooms and substrate is good, that's all that matters. The side of the substrate that didn't make mushrooms doesn't look like it would make mushrooms, I don't know how to explain it other than experience. Looks dry right now but also looks like it got matted down from too much misting. Idk what you exactly did but everything has to be right. Grain has to be right water content, the spawn has to be clean, substrate needs proper water contents and to be prepared properly. No over misting dryer is far better than too wet in my opinion, like i said still a reservoir of 1gal of water in the average substrate.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25210655 - 05/17/18 03:55 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Was the lid flipped 24/7 ?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JHOVA]
#25210667 - 05/17/18 04:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is my first go at all this, so tried a few things. I keep the lid on, but not latched for the first 9 days of colonization, then put it into fruiting conditions by flipping the lid. I think I might have done it a bit early.
I also tried turning the lid to the side, like Bod recommended, to increase FAE. I didn't think about misting it the first couple of times I did that, so I might have fucked my conditions there.
For the most part, at least for the last week or so of fruiting, I have just had the lid flipped, and lightly misted once or twice a day until we got to the photo i posted above.
I am not expecting perfection on my first grow, just trying to squeeze any number of pointers I can out of you masters.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Marshwood_Bear]
#25210681 - 05/17/18 04:07 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Marshwood_Bear said: I feel like I might be lacking somewhere I dont realize.
More than a lack it looks more like an excess, you did a lot of something, maybe misting a lot? The ideal thing would be a surface looking like this without you having to mist or do anything before pins, you can mist but only if needed. This tub was not misted even once, the beads form naturally.
 As bod said, everything has to be right, you can rarely achieve a nice surface if you botched something up along the way.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Marshwood_Bear]
#25210714 - 05/17/18 04:33 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Marshwood_Bear said: This is my first go at all this, so tried a few things. I keep the lid on, but not latched for the first 9 days of colonization, then put it into fruiting conditions by flipping the lid. I think I might have done it a bit early.
I also tried turning the lid to the side, like Bod recommended, to increase FAE. I didn't think about misting it the first couple of times I did that, so I might have fucked my conditions there.
For the most part, at least for the last week or so of fruiting, I have just had the lid flipped, and lightly misted once or twice a day until we got to the photo i posted above.
I am not expecting perfection on my first grow, just trying to squeeze any number of pointers I can out of you masters.
After a gap has formed between the wall and sub on one of my tubs that I let get too dry. I st8 up cut it in half and put 1 half in another tub I had. It fixed the whole side pin issue in regards that they had space to grow.I also think it promoted the top to fruit evenly with the side because I eliminated the micro climate space in between the wall and sub that the cubes favored more. Both 1/2 cakes blew up after the cut and a dunk. Just an observation.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jonnerhashe]
#25210917 - 05/17/18 05:59 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bod when you put it into fruiting conditions do you ever flip the lid back over to conserve moisture?
How does lid flipped when you are home and lid on but not latched when you are gone work out?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JHOVA]
#25210924 - 05/17/18 06:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ive got one pe6 tub right now lid flipped at 50% colonization. Just flipped not twisted. Misted it once. Its knotting up but i think im getting a few blobs
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25210937 - 05/17/18 06:07 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have found that this tek does just fine with the standard 66qt mono as well In case someone canβt find the air tight tubs
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