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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: more4u2c]
#25055706 - 03/11/18 07:41 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: They look like mold more than mycelium. Concentric rings too
Plates 2,11,12,13 are ones I would have used.
I was always told that the rings in agar was just a sign of temp swings is this fake news? Should I not see rings in my agar growth?
Can be temp swings but those rings look sketch more than temp swing
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#25055722 - 03/11/18 07:52 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Not good when only some of your plates have rings. The temp swing rings should be on every dish if its actually temp swing rings
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#25055725 - 03/11/18 07:54 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I havent turned off the light in my grow room for a couple of weeks, does anyone see a problem with this? Shit is colonizing and growing fine everywhere
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NotJonHamm
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: Mateja] 1
#25058222 - 03/12/18 12:20 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, even though there might have been a bacteria problem in my jars, I don't even care. I just want to try and grow something, even if it fails, since I've been working for three months to get to this point, haha. Worse comes to worse, I'll just get some experience on what things should not look like. Will report back with results.  
Here's what the possible bacterial (or maybe just too wet) contamination looks like. From what I understand through a few searches (so correct me if I'm wrong) is that even if grains are pressed up against the glass, it won't obstruct any mycelium growth, which makes partial grain coverage a bit of a red flag for contamination. So I just chose any of the jars that had the most grain coverage.

So here's the finished result. Any time I shook the jars, the mycelium in the jars bounced back really quick, so hopefully I'll have a quick colonization time.

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: NotJonHamm]
#25058303 - 03/12/18 01:05 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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you only need half those lights imo but thats one clean slick mono and set up you got
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NotJonHamm
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy] 1
#25058543 - 03/12/18 03:06 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said: you only need half those lights imo but thats one clean slick mono and set up you got
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Yeah I think I maybe went a tad bit overkill, but I love it all the same. I had an extra unused closet, so it's probably better spent as a mycology closet instead. Here's my wishful thinking setup that has a ways to go before it's in full swing. Hopefully I can start filling up all my unBODified tubs soon!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: NotJonHamm] 1
#25058561 - 03/12/18 03:12 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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id be worried about heat from 6lamps. 6 monos generate a surprising amount of heat by themselves. my mush closet is the warmest room in the house.
but i might be wrong. i use 3 of those same basic things for a closet thats 3ft deep, 9ft wide and bout 8ft tall.
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NotJonHamm
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy]
#25058585 - 03/12/18 03:19 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's in the basement, so it doesn't get super warm. Plus the closet is pretty big at about 4'-5' deep, exactly 3 tubs wide, and about 8'-9' tall. At night the temperature gets to about 20degC with the lights off and then right now inside the tub it's 24degC with lights being on for about 8 hours now.
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more4u2c
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: NotJonHamm]
#25058612 - 03/12/18 03:27 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I used the desk lamp until the store had the clip lamps in stock I have now gone with just clip lamps as they will clip to the side of the upside down lids and keeps the hot bulb from heating up the tub. Also check out my random agar (don't know "variety" and only 5 times transfered/isolated) fruiting using these tubs pretty bad ass! For a set and forget system.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: more4u2c]
#25066786 - 03/15/18 08:42 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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heya BOD,
I have posted some new pics of my first 3 unmodified tubs using mostly your teks along the way - would love your input as to why I am getting such sporadic fruiting as opposed to the massive canopies possible.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25066761/#25066761
thanks!
(sorry in advance if posting a link to my other thread here is poor etiquette)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mercaba]
#25068389 - 03/16/18 10:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well today is day 6 after spawning to unmodified tub. I noticed some very fuzzy looking what I hope is mycelium. I assume it is doing that close to the sides because of the high humidity. I hate to throw up my noob flag and ask a question that has been asked 10 million times on here so I'll make it 2 questions. 1. Does that look ok? and 2 Is it ready for fruit? I was spawn heavy when I made these so is day 6 or 7 enough to start fruit or should I wait a few days? This is the middle of the road tub so I figured a pic of it would help.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jonnerhashe]
#25069585 - 03/16/18 08:13 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I transferred my spawn into a tub today as I am going to use BODs Modified tub tek. My question is...
Do I keep the lid securely on (without being latch), or do I just sit the lid on top for FAE?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Jlo1990]
#25070079 - 03/17/18 01:18 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Running my first Mono and went with this tek. Looks like I'll have a few more mushies than cakes have been giving!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Aodin]
#25070090 - 03/17/18 01:32 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Gongrats on your first tub man. It looks very dry though and the surface very matted. Can you explain what you've been doing exactly since you spawned it?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#25072324 - 03/18/18 03:30 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would a 66 qt sterlite run this? Or am I better with the 6 holes?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: leafygreens]
#25072327 - 03/18/18 03:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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in theory yes,
but he explains why he chose this tub in the op
target carries the kind of tub in the op
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#25072358 - 03/18/18 04:33 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just misting and fanning as I think about it when I'm in the room. Maybe 6ish times a day. 12/12 light. Looking decent except for these short dense fruits.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Aodin] 1
#25072382 - 03/18/18 05:26 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I knew you were doing that (misting and fanning at least 6 times a day), just wanted you to clarify what you did to keep a record for people to see.
It's your first tub and quite impressive considering that, but it's not looking decent at all... it could have looked really decent though, probably a hell of a flush with taller and healthier looking fruits, but unfortunatly it's looking arid af due to operator error.
Trust the plastic box and the mycs ability to keep good conditions for you. You (or anyone else) are fucking horrible at that.
A tub is not a cake in a SGFC that you gotta mist, this is truly set and forget or mostly. You shouldn't be misting your tub if you did everything correctly in the first place. You see the surface matted? That's from so much misting and drying, misting and drying... that's the way myc has to protect itself against the assault and it ruins what could otherwise have been a good and moist pinning platform.
If you think you ain't gonna be able to scrap what you've read so far about misting and fanning, like it's really ingrained in your brain already and you are gonna keep doing it no matter what, at least add a non-nutritious casing layer next time so that you can mist and fan 6 times a day or whatever you want. The casing will protect the surface from you.
Edited by Josex (03/18/18 07:43 AM)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#25072786 - 03/18/18 10:35 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Josex said: Yeah I knew you were doing that (misting and fanning at least 6 times a day), just wanted you to clarify what you did to keep a record for people to see.
It's your first tub and quite impressive considering that, but it's not looking decent at all... it could have looked really decent though, probably a hell of a flush with taller and healthier looking fruits, but unfortunatly it's looking arid af due to operator error.
Trust the plastic box and the mycs ability to keep good conditions for you. You (or anyone else) are fucking horrible at that.
A tub is not a cake in a SGFC that you gotta mist, this is truly set and forget or mostly. You shouldn't be misting your tub if you did everything correctly in the first place. You see the surface matted? That's from so much misting and drying, misting and drying... that's the way myc has to protect itself against the assault and it ruins what could otherwise have been a good and moist pinning platform.
If you think you ain't gonna be able to scrap what you've read so far about misting and fanning, like it's really ingrained in your brain already and you are gonna keep doing it no matter what, at least add a non-nutritious casing layer next time so that you can mist and fan 6 times a day or whatever you want. The casing will protect the surface from you. 
Josex,
After reading every comment in this thread, I've come to the conclusion that most people are fucking their tubs up with too much misting. BOD has said countless times that fanning is useless. You seem to be of the same opinion?
My issue is that I have been pretty much leaving my tubs alone - flipped the lids and barely any misting - yet apparently my tubs are a bit too dry now - not enough surface evaporation? I'm hoping I can get this balance right in time for massive canopy 2nd flushes in my tubs:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25072723#25072723
Thanks to all of you experienced growers who are here to shine some light into the minds of us newbies!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mercaba]
#25072797 - 03/18/18 10:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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The worst driest times of years i misted a tub maybe 3-4 times total during the period leading up to the first flush.
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