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FungThumb
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25031176 - 03/01/18 08:24 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would this work with the 20qt size of the Sterilite® Air Tight Storage Tote?
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Germs
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25031361 - 03/01/18 10:21 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Other tubs may work, if you're familiar with the principles of operation feel free to experiment and contribute. As always think outside the box, things can be a lot more simple and efficient often times.
I have not recommended any other tubs because I have not used any other ones. I'm sure that other kinds of tubs would work just fine. You'll want a clear lid at the very least.
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FungThumb
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Germs]
#25032132 - 03/01/18 03:12 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Derpy me. Lol I appreciate the reply....even tho the answer was in the damn tek lol.
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zzerg85
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: FungThumb] 1
#25035151 - 03/03/18 03:57 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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So my first ever montub grow produced it’s first complete fruits Veils are broken on two so now I know for sure the pinset wasn’t great and the size of shrooms neither I used sporeprint to agar to grain to spawn bodhista teks only
I found a liner in the tub could be helpful even tho I think I managed to keep up decent surface conditions, I have several side pins because of the dripping water
I learned that just because people mix 4-7 quarts of spawn to 1 brick coco doesn’t mean the thickness of that will be less than desired
I would like to know if I clone a large healthy shroom from a cluster (even tho it’s tiny because I haven’t given the best care) would that clone do significantly better in better conditions?
Or shall I just wait for an actual nice fruit to clone if you know what I mean
Here is a pic

Edited by zzerg85 (03/03/18 04:02 AM)
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more4u2c
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: zzerg85]
#25038325 - 03/04/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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So I modified the unmodified tek lol by simply melting a new hinge hole and the notching by also using same metal bolt to melt away the part that hits. Anyhoo with this modification it allows the latches to latch the upside down tub lid. Now will this limit the FAE? Idk maybe but by how much? Probably an insignificant amount.
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mushboy
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: more4u2c]
#25038338 - 03/04/18 01:52 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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zzerg85 said:

your sub was too wet. either from over field capacity or too much misting.
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more4u2c said: allows the latches to latch the upside down tub lid.
just as long as it doesnt press the lid down too hard, blocking air
but why do it?
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more4u2c
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: zzerg85]
#25038341 - 03/04/18 01:54 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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zzerg85 said: So my first ever montub grow produced it’s first complete fruits Veils are broken on two so now I know for sure the pinset wasn’t great and the size of shrooms neither I used sporeprint to agar to grain to spawn bodhista teks only
I found a liner in the tub could be helpful even tho I think I managed to keep up decent surface conditions, I have several side pins because of the dripping water
I learned that just because people mix 4-7 quarts of spawn to 1 brick coco doesn’t mean the thickness of that will be less than desired
I would like to know if I clone a large healthy shroom from a cluster (even tho it’s tiny because I haven’t given the best care) would that clone do significantly better in better conditions?
Or shall I just wait for an actual nice fruit to clone if you know what I mean
Here is a pic


Damn I thought I grew some small fruits before but those are the smallest I've ever seen besides aborts lol
My experience with small fruits is too much misting or water logged substrate.
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more4u2c
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy]
#25038350 - 03/04/18 01:58 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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just as long as it doesnt press the lid down too hard, blocking air
but why do it?
Well I wanna do this cuz with the lid upside down it moves slides around a lot and I've had issues with it sliding off so this just keeps them secure so I can stack and not worry I'll come home to stacked tubs knocked onto the floor.
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mushboy
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: more4u2c]
#25038388 - 03/04/18 02:13 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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makes sense i guess..
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more4u2c
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy] 1
#25038421 - 03/04/18 02:32 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I only modified 2 of them from opposite sides and ends it holds the lid secure but allows the other 2 holes to be completely open for unrestricted FAE but even the latched ones are in no way blocking FAE.
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zzerg85
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy]
#25039565 - 03/05/18 12:48 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Than is for the tip I was over misting i Guess There are a few growing now 3x times bigger All together I am happy with my first result at least there is something harvest Side pinning I probably due to over misting as well too much water dripping down o. The wall of the tub
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#25039959 - 03/05/18 08:52 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: SNUGGLEBEE] 1
#25039963 - 03/05/18 08:54 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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got any fans or heaters going?
and just by looking at that pin set wtf are you complaining about? good job
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more4u2c
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy]
#25041375 - 03/05/18 07:17 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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So when fruiting the unmodified way do the fruits keep a white shell of myc longer than normal? Or should I be opening my tub up and manually fan some?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: SNUGGLEBEE]
#25041377 - 03/05/18 07:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: Munchauzen]
#25042148 - 03/06/18 05:27 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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In the photo that shows the fruited substrate from the side it doesn't look like it's very colonized below the surface. Was it colonized and just looks that way for some reason or do you just wait until the top surface is completely white? Thanks.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: SNUGGLEBEE]
#25042273 - 03/06/18 07:20 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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No need to wait until it's fully white in my experience - anywhere from 50-80% colonised is a good time to put the tub into fruiting conditions. The sub will continue colonising perhaps more rapidly even after the lid is flipped and FAE is introduced. And the mushrooms will come!
Check out this photo as an example of a pretty awesome pinset with no 'whiteness' on the sides. This was flipped when the surface was about 80% white mycellium.

as a side note, make sure your room has plenty of moving air for this tek to work in my opinion. I did this in an enclosed space, didn't get fruiting for 1+ months, and after fanning 3x a day for 4 days pins and mushrooms appeared on those old tubs.
Peace and love!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: mushroom_mode]
#25042296 - 03/06/18 07:41 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree, the substrate in my grows was also quite 'just coco colored' when i flipped. Maybe even less then 50% ..
For the second part: FAE.. I recently moved my grows to a smaller room aswel and find that the reduced moving air currents (small room) "..could.." in fact slow the grows a bit? ..seems slower then earlier grows that I did in my living room which was way way bigger than the 6'x 6' room I use now.. Might be wrong on this tho.
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mushroom_mode said: No need to wait until it's fully white in my experience - anywhere from 50-80% colonised is a good time to put the tub into fruiting conditions. The sub will continue colonising perhaps more rapidly even after the lid is flipped and FAE is introduced. And the mushrooms will come!
Check out this photo as an example of a pretty awesome pinset with no 'whiteness' on the sides. This was flipped when the surface was about 80% white mycellium.

as a side note, make sure your room has plenty of moving air for this tek to work in my opinion. I did this in an enclosed space, didn't get fruiting for 1+ months, and after fanning 3x a day for 4 days pins and mushrooms appeared on those old tubs.
Peace and love!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: mushboy]
#25042671 - 03/06/18 10:48 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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After the smallest first flush things are looking better Wondering when to dunk it? I mist a lot , the little drops disappear fairly fast Lid is flipped and I fan 5 times a day at least No pooling issues, my sub is very thin , I will make a new mono in a few days with at least 6-7quart to 1 brick coco Temps at around 68-75 Any tips,questions are welcome. I feel like i have done an ok job for the first Tub and start to get the hang of it. Thanks bod!
New pics
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NotJonHamm
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: zzerg85]
#25054277 - 03/10/18 11:33 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have a bit of a strategy question here... So when I made all my oat jars I made 10 at a time thinking I might have a couple get contamination so I'd be left with about 7ish jars to work with, but all the jars I made are looking great. So I'm wondering, since Bod says to use 4-7qt jars per 54qt tub, if I should do two tubs with 5qt jars each OR if I should pick my 7 best jars and do one tub? If I use 7 jars for one tub, I can just as easily add the 3 remaining jars to 10 jars of the same variety that are catching up right now and then do a 7 jar and a 6 jar tub in a couple weeks when the new jars are ready.
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