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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Alpenglow myco]
    #25001025 - 02/17/18 10:44 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Too much water in the second one? Bit blurry photo but the myc seems matted down? At least it looks just like when i over misted before.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
    #25001088 - 02/17/18 11:11 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah they're both varying degrees of bacteria, i theorize.

Whenever i have bacterial spawn, i use a pseudo casing layer

My theory is that exposed grains have a higher chance to contaminate due to their weaker immune system from the bacterial infection. (healthy spawn obviously dont need this)


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: dmnats]
    #25001182 - 02/17/18 11:48 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

The one that seems matted has been like that the whole time it just had those small fluffy sections. why do you say the first is also bacterial?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Alpenglow myco]
    #25001202 - 02/17/18 11:59 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I concluded that from your description and how you have another tub with bacteria in it.

ALL spawn have varying levels of bacteria.

A small amount will still give you a decent yield. A high amount will allow molds to develop.

BUT, your substrate doesnt look fully colonized, friend

we theorize that the main pinning trigger is a fully colonized substrate!

So you might be good (yay)

How long has it been colonizing?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: dmnats]
    #25001244 - 02/17/18 12:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Its been colonizing for about 15 days now I flipped the lids at about 80% like bod said in the op.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Alpenglow myco]
    #25001473 - 02/17/18 02:45 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

so you mixed the substrate and let it sit for 15 days?

I've noticed that it takes at least 12 days for full colonization of my substrate.

So lets say, 2-2.5 weeks for full colonization, (your substrate-spawn ratio determines how quick this time is)

Then another 2 weeks for pins to form and mature to unveiled fruit bodies 

What was your substrate?

What was your substrate to spawn ratio?

You may be fine, just need to be patient.

If you keep getting these results, id resort to using shoe boxes using 1 quart of spawn to 1 quart of plain coco coir.

You can do 2-to-2, but if you want to be safe do the 1-to-1

2-2 gives larger fruiting bodies tho...id experiment


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: dmnats]
    #25001488 - 02/17/18 02:55 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Shoeboxes were my first grow.

My substrate is coir and verm using bods easy af coir tek.

It was not colonizing for 15 days, it colonized for 8 then I put it into fruiting.

Not sure exactly on the spawn ratio but both tubs had 6 2/3 full quarts of what I thought was clean spawn (smelled like mushrooms and broke up very easily) spawned to 650g of coir and 2 quarts verm.

I always thought it was one week from putting it to fruiting to see pins, maybe there is nothing wrong.... other than the bacteria lol.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Alpenglow myco]
    #25001512 - 02/17/18 03:07 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

it probably just finished colonizing

even tho theres still visible areas not colonized..

8 days with bacterial spawn would be a quick full colonization time bro.

Also 1 brick of coco coir has about 10 quarts wet.

So your spawn-substrate(sorry this is the right way) ratio was  6.667-10

soooo a lil higher than a 1-2 ratio which is great, you always wanna stick between a 1- .25 ratio


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: dmnats]
    #25001520 - 02/17/18 03:11 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Ok cool, I knew it wasnt fully colonized but in the op on this thread bod had said to flip the lids anywhere from 50-80% colonized.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Alpenglow myco]
    #25001537 - 02/17/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

My social studies teacher back in the day asked my class why so many people were trying to follow the same path of enlightenment as the original buddha?

He inferred that we all reach our path to enlightenment in our own way, and its fruitless to COMPLETELY follow what others say to do.

In time youll get a hang to what floats your boat

Ive noticed FAE is pretty much needed the entire cycle.

You need to make your own conclusions from the things you observe.

If you didnt see it fully colonized, you shouldnt have inferred it was.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: dmnats]
    #25001568 - 02/17/18 03:35 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I said that I knew it was NOT fully colonized but bod had said to flip the lid anywhere from 50-80% its not that I am blindly following someone, bod clearly knows what he is doing and the #1 piece of advice I see recommended on this forum is to follow the teks to a T if you want them to work.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Alpenglow myco]
    #25001583 - 02/17/18 03:43 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Is it working for you lol?

Theres always small factors that change things up, example is the bacteria you have

Teks are usally meant in cases where the person does everything completely correct.

Im sure Bod has excellent technique, we're probably mediocre

Im sure youre smart man, didnt mean to insult you


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Alpenglow myco]
    #25001647 - 02/17/18 04:25 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Alpenglow myco said:
I said that I knew it was NOT fully colonized but bod had said to flip the lid anywhere from 50-80% its not that I am blindly following someone, bod clearly knows what he is doing and the #1 piece of advice I see recommended on this forum is to follow the teks to a T if you want them to work.



I would recommend you to add a top layer of coir to your substrates now, simply because I don´t see a good environment
for pin formation on your substrate surface right now. Bacterial or not, if you add a top layer myc will start to colonize
it in search for better pinning environment, becuase right now the culture is looking from where to pin, and you don´t want side pin city.

A top layer is not needed for pinning formation, but a good substrate surface environment is needed, if that makes sense :thumbup:


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
    #25001748 - 02/17/18 05:12 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

First time ive heard a pseudo casing explained that way, thanks man!


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Alpenglow myco]
    #25002628 - 02/18/18 01:50 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Alpenglow myco said:
First time ive heard a pseudo casing explained that way, thanks man!




Same here, ... very insightful!


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
    #25002658 - 02/18/18 02:09 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

ShrooMonkey said:
Quote:

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First time ive heard a pseudo casing explained that way, thanks man!




Same here, ... very insightful!




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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
    #25002738 - 02/18/18 03:14 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)









Fan in the room you see the light lol lids flipped upside down daily misting once 90 percent colonized lids off for 30 mins a day or so while in fruiting conditions.  The ones on the shelf are almost 90 percent colonized. 

I sparadically spray the colonizing sub if it looks dry




First tub I tried using this method with lid on correctly with latches for two weeks n0t to mention the heavy bacterial spawn I started with.  (Between the Spore syringe and the heater lol I had in the spawn room and the 4 4qt spawn bags in the pc for barely 2 hours )



Incubation room. (No heater any longer lol)





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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bam]
    #25002852 - 02/18/18 05:28 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

F@*^ thats a lotta shrooms... you eat anything else?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
    #25002854 - 02/18/18 05:31 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

replace that light with a 6500k light bulb, and boom, you got an ever more advanced grow room.

I replaced all the lights in my room with day light 6500k lights lol

find the right wattage and buy em online


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: dmnats]
    #25003304 - 02/18/18 10:45 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I appreciate it guys and I’m hoping to not have to eat anything else.
And I will look online thx


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