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ShrooMonkey
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: rossissekc]
#24996620 - 02/15/18 02:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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My guess is that any fixture that will hold your cfl bulb will do just fine.
I actually use no fixture at all.. just an aluminum food tray as reflector for both light and heat. I keep my tubs on shelves.. dont want to cook my tubs by the heat of the lower lights. Jmtc
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rossissekc said: What kind of light fixture is that in the pics? Having a hard time finding one on google.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
#24996657 - 02/15/18 02:48 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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No light at all on my tubs but the. Light in the closet I’m using pins everywhere
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bam]
#24996772 - 02/15/18 03:43 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Would a monotub have a lower chance of contamination since the air exchange is somewhat filtered?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: psilocyanide]
#24996810 - 02/15/18 04:00 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, the polyfil has absolutely nothing to do with filtration.
Besides you have to mix the spawn and substrate in open air to make the tub anyway.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24996828 - 02/15/18 04:04 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: No, the polyfil has absolutely nothing to do with filtration. /quote]
Oh, really? Its just for the moisture then? Wouldnt drilling a smaller hole and just not using polyfil have the same effect then? Or is there something else to it? Just curious.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: psilocyanide]
#24996853 - 02/15/18 04:14 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Discussing the finer points of polyfil in the unmodded thread lol. Good question though. I was wondering myself about doing a couple smaller holes near the lip or handles and leaving the lid closed, somewhere between a ohmatic mono and this tek. Some totes dont stack so well with a flipped lid. And it’d be nice to have them not blatantly drilled on the sides in case I want to use them for something else at a later date.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: AyePlus]
#24996857 - 02/15/18 04:15 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Poly is all about moisture regulation. Letting the substrate evaporate its moisture to create humidity in the tub but not so fast it dries out.
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Josex
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: AyePlus]
#24996886 - 02/15/18 04:25 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: Discussing the finer points of polyfil in the unmodded thread lol. Good question though. I was wondering myself about doing a couple smaller holes near the lip or handles and leaving the lid closed, somewhere between a ohmatic mono and this tek. Some totes dont stack so well with a flipped lid. And it’d be nice to have them not blatantly drilled on the sides in case I want to use them for something else at a later date.
Mudafuka did something like that, lots of little holes without poly instead of the standard 6 holes and poly. You can make anything work really, hell you can even do open air grows. It's all a matter of knowing how to read what the myc needs and adjusting to your particular climate and your own circumstances, and making it all as 'automated' as possible is also a nice thing to shoot for.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#24996921 - 02/15/18 04:40 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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 Exactly.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24996935 - 02/15/18 04:48 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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That being said, nothing beats the simplicity of unmodified and it's as effective as any other set-up.
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BuffGuts
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#24996968 - 02/15/18 05:11 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Doesn't a 6Qt shoebox with its lid flipped upside-down work as good as anything?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: BuffGuts]
#24996982 - 02/15/18 05:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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There are tears running down my cheek right now. So glad to know ive been misting too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TY!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: BuffGuts]
#24997267 - 02/15/18 06:57 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks every1, I have been using this unmodified tek since I came back to the hobby (I used monotubs before this was posted). I was just curious.
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ShrooMonkey
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: psilocyanide]
#24997925 - 02/16/18 02:11 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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An ongoing experiment:
I'm in the process of having a 4-tub grow that cycles each week or so. Will be testing 4 different paralel substrate approaches of Bod's TEK under same conditions:
-Poo/Coir/Gypsom in 70q tub with 10q spawn B+ -Poo/Coir in 70q tub with 10q spawn B+ -Coir in 70q tub with 10q spawn B+ -Compost (fruit/veg/plant)/Gypsom in 70q tub with 10q spawn B+
Reason for doing this is: I want to see first hand and compare yields, evenness, sizes, number of useful flushes.
I'm spawning a new 70q tub each weekend and putting last weeks to fruit. See what data this provides when all 4 tubs have cycled 4 times. Will be dunking harvest tek style in between flushes.
Any remarks, recommendations, hints are welcome. And what to do with the mother load afterwards 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
#24997935 - 02/16/18 02:23 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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You won´t get any useful data unless you grow with clones or isolates, do you work with agar? But at least you´ll have fun growing anyway GL
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
#24998729 - 02/16/18 12:30 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for this. Bookmarked. Absolutely beautiful harvest pictures. As a noob, I didn't know such abundance was possible. Definitely going to try this after I harvest my PF Tek.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
#24998797 - 02/16/18 01:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mateah said: You won´t get any useful data unless you grow with clones or isolates, do you work with agar? But at least you´ll have fun growing anyway GL 
You could get useful data with MS if you did 100s of trials and normalized the data across them.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24999624 - 02/16/18 07:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can't wait to give it a go. I'm new to this but gonna start in a month. Just waiting for spores. Thanks for the time in putting this up.
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ShrooMonkey
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25000422 - 02/17/18 03:24 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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Mateah said: You won´t get any useful data unless you grow with clones or isolates, do you work with agar? But at least you´ll have fun growing anyway GL 
You could get useful data with MS if you did 100s of trials and normalized the data across them.
Maybe should have been a bit more to the point about it and be more specific in my goals. As I have easy and dirt cheap access to substrate materials it only seemed logic to me to do a couple of cycles in my set up working -MS- with a couple of them. I gave this some thought and concluded its more wise to first get substrate and growing TEK down to a T and thén set up gear working with agar etc.
I have found growing shrooms is in large part establishing a thorough understanding of the substrates needs. How it behaves in my particular environment, its signs and how I am able to manage ideal parameters. Bods TEK, at least how I have come to appreciate it, is largely about that: "observe>act"... there is no way carved in stone. Its the common answer in each and every thread to relative noobs like me: Look at what your substrate says.. there are no def answers, everyone else has something else working for them specifically.. that implies a lot (mostly?) for substrates. This understanding kind of suggested me what my next step was.
I know Bods TEK works with coco coir, but there's a deeper message in his TEK : "Observe for yourself". I have taken the liberty to experiment a little within Bods vision and do 2-3-4 rounds of 4 different substrate grows I think (even with MS) it will give me a lot of insight on and feel for the different types of substrates of these grows and compare my 'relative (yes) crude' outcomes.
(Introducing techniques to single out genetics is step two, and will only make perfect sense to me once step one is covered to satisfaction.)
Stuff that I'm interested in seeing is whether over 4 tubs of just coir they get colonized faster than say 4 tubs of C/poo or 4 tubs C/Poo/G working "unBodified".. or which substrate holds better and recovers faster after dunking. Nope I'm not in it for the (genetics) science but just these couple of rounds will be very insightful and I'd be confident choosing 'my' perfect substrate just from these outcomes.
Edited by ShrooMonkey (02/17/18 05:33 AM)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
#25000842 - 02/17/18 09:21 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a few tubs that have been in fruiting about a week now with no pins thought id post some pics and see if everything was still looking good to everybody else. I think the second one of them is bacterial.
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