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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24887010 - 01/03/18 09:21 AM (6 years, 27 days ago) |
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They get plenty of fae with just the lid upside down. More than a regular monotub since the holes ain't stuffed with poly.
I swear some people didn't read the first post lol.
Mist when it needs it if it needs it. Don't make a misting time line or schedule.
Fanning is 100000% pointless. If you still think fanning does something or is needed this tek isn't for you yet lol.
Leave the lid alone if you've never done a tub before. Flip it once colonized and just leave it be. Don't mess with twisting it. Thats why I wrote *seemingly advanced technique* where it talks about ajar/rotation. Because it's just way to complicated for people who don't have the first hand experience of what things should look like.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24887044 - 01/03/18 09:44 AM (6 years, 27 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: They get plenty of fae with just the lid upside down. More than a regular monotub since the holes ain't stuffed with poly.
I swear some people didn't read the first post lol.
Mist when it needs it if it needs it. Don't make a misting time line or schedule.
Fanning is 100000% pointless. If you still think fanning does something or is needed this tek isn't for you yet lol.
Leave the lid alone if you've never done a tub before. Flip it once colonized and just leave it be. Don't mess with twisting it. Thats why I wrote *seemingly advanced technique* where it talks about ajar/rotation. Because it's just way to complicated for people who don't have the first hand experience of what things should look like.
Bod you say when and if and that’s what confuses me a bit. What are we looking for to determine IF it needs a misting? It seems once my tubs get dry enough to /need/ a misting they’re already bruised.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JFlint]
#24887064 - 01/03/18 09:55 AM (6 years, 27 days ago) |
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That's something you learn from experience.
This guy tried to put it in writing https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053
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JFlint

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24887200 - 01/03/18 11:03 AM (6 years, 27 days ago) |
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Yeah I’ve read that thread many many times. Still struggling to keep moisture beaded on the surface. Seems the more I mist the worse off the surface becomes also. It ends up matting and bruising anyway even if I’m gentle with the misting.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JFlint] 1
#24888059 - 01/03/18 06:12 PM (6 years, 26 days ago) |
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my first tubs are seem to have recovered from shitty surface conditions (theyre in knotting phase atm)
i left the lid ajar quite often because i thought "seemingly advanced technique" meant it *should* be attempted by noobs (hope that logic makes some sense? lol)
the surface dried and I had to give it some misting which resulted in some mycelium matting, which people were talking about on the previous page
anyway i went out of town for 48 hours and left the lids right-way up (sealed but not latched) to help retain moisture and when I got back the mycelium had bounced back and recovered to fuzzy
in future tubs, I'll be leaving the lid lined up longer, at least until pinning, because that definitely stalled growth.
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JFlint

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushroom_mode]
#24889427 - 01/04/18 10:49 AM (6 years, 26 days ago) |
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Well I’m getting some pinning in the middle of this tub, but the corners just keep looking worse. I’ve been mistingit twice a day for the past couple days now trying to remedy the drying out, but it seems to just keep getting drier every time I check on it. I’m tempted to pitch it just to save me the disappointment. It looked so promising early this week.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JFlint]
#24889543 - 01/04/18 11:25 AM (6 years, 26 days ago) |
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Looks like its about to explode.
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JFlint

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24889622 - 01/04/18 11:43 AM (6 years, 26 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Looks like its about to explode. 
You don’t think it looks all kinds of fucked up? I mean if you think it’s good I trust your word over my own lack of experience and judgement.
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mushboy
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JFlint]
#24889632 - 01/04/18 11:46 AM (6 years, 26 days ago) |
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that tub looks dope. just relax and watch nature unfold.
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ShrooMonkey
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JFlint]
#24889665 - 01/04/18 11:55 AM (6 years, 26 days ago) |
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HI all,
Update on my second grow ever going with this Tek.
20th Dec, spawned 5qt Rye/MS to Hpoo/V/G - 60qt Tub - 69 roomtemp

26th Dec. colonization was coming along quite fine at ±50%, opened tub to a tiny crack, just some little daylight:

4th Jan. Opened tub so that air gaps match the upside down state like in Bods Tek. (I have diff tub so Im guestimating here) And and switched on 2x 23watts 6500K total 2800 Lumen CFL's

-This tub is gonna go nuclear, maybe hard to see in the pic but knotting is very-very potent. The mycelium seems way more happy then when I first tried some weeks ago.. (using a time machine :p) ..seeing some pins already 
Lessons learned from my first try: -Kept my first tubs cracked open way to much, had to mist too much, myc got stressed. -Used to dim 6500K cheap ass leds.. guess myc didnt really respond to that well. -Opened the tub too much to add fresh air.. dumb thoughts there.. spare you the moronic motivation.. -These 2 30qt tubs produced just 750grams of tiny 2,5" mushes..
Fak That.. This second run is gonna Kick some serious behinds. Gonna refrain from misting I think. Just leave this tub alone completely as some tiny shrooms are already forming and the substrate and myc is still very nicely beaded with water.
2nd try, praying for a canopy Thanx bod, finding your tek saved the day. Also thanx for the link to comebackKids moisture surface conditions tek. Been looking for a trustworthy source for that!
One Love, Monk
Edited by ShrooMonkey (01/04/18 12:08 PM)
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willhelm
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
#24893462 - 01/06/18 05:45 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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bigger tub, 64l, 7 quarts spawn, brick of coir, day 28
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outofservice
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: willhelm]
#24894524 - 01/06/18 04:21 PM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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willhelm said: bigger tub, 64l, 7 quarts spawn, brick of coir, day 28

Look at those fatties! short and thick haha nice Which strain?
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willhelm
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: outofservice]
#24895642 - 01/07/18 02:53 AM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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These are GT.
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Zachsonpub
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: willhelm]
#24898612 - 01/08/18 02:06 PM (6 years, 22 days ago) |
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Haven't seen this suggested anywhere, so I'll post here as it's inspired by this tek.
I really like the idea of not fucking with anything structurally, or as little as possible, so I'm going to test an idea out. I have a few tubs (not the model in OP) I had bought prior to reading this, and I haven't modified them at all. The lids to these tubs sit flush with the top of the tub when flipped, so I'm going to glue a penny to each corner to get that small gap (maybe two stacked if it needs it).
I know... groundbreaking. It's a minimal tub lid mod. Sounds simple enough, so I'll give her a go. Will post results as it relates to some Muda bottles. I'm going to shoeboxes next, so if anyone wants to test on a bulk FC, I'm interested to see your results.
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ShrooMonkey
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Zachsonpub]
#24900196 - 01/09/18 08:50 AM (6 years, 21 days ago) |
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After watching the substrate colonize nicely, forming a very nice and dense knotting, pinning has started. It's quite uneven though. The bottom right corner is about 4 days behind in time and growth. I'm wondering what parameter is causing this. FAE is quite even as the lid has the same crack all around the lid, misting is done as even as possible. The only thing I can think of is the temperature. The less developed corner is pointing towards a door.. its winter here and very cold.. a mild cold draft might be the culprit ? This would make sense right? Also this corner is slightly more wet on the surface and lost of condensation water from the tub walls dripping down.. refraining from misting it and considering using paper towel to gently remove the water as there's risk of puddling..
And what would typically cause this sector just left off the center to be so ahead?
Jan 9th:

Detail of bottom right:

If this bottom right corner is colder and (way) more humid would this discourage speed of pinning like I see? I dont think its my substrate as its well mixed..
Hoping for feedback,
Monk
Edited by ShrooMonkey (01/09/18 08:52 AM)
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JFlint

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
#24900458 - 01/09/18 10:58 AM (6 years, 21 days ago) |
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ShrooMonkey said: After watching the substrate colonize nicely, forming a very nice and dense knotting, pinning has started. It's quite uneven though. The bottom right corner is about 4 days behind in time and growth. I'm wondering what parameter is causing this. FAE is quite even as the lid has the same crack all around the lid, misting is done as even as possible. The only thing I can think of is the temperature. The less developed corner is pointing towards a door.. its winter here and very cold.. a mild cold draft might be the culprit ? This would make sense right? Also this corner is slightly more wet on the surface and lost of condensation water from the tub walls dripping down.. refraining from misting it and considering using paper towel to gently remove the water as there's risk of puddling..
And what would typically cause this sector just left off the center to be so ahead?
Jan 9th:

Detail of bottom right:

If this bottom right corner is colder and (way) more humid would this discourage speed of pinning like I see? I dont think its my substrate as its well mixed..
Hoping for feedback,
Monk
Looks like a desert in there mate. I’d be willing to bet more than temperature, the draft you speak of is drying your shit out. Especially if it’s dry winter air. Try putting a towel under the door or something? And mist accordingly thereafter. Just my two cents.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JFlint]
#24901581 - 01/09/18 07:11 PM (6 years, 20 days ago) |
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So I'm totally going to try this out, I went to the store and got one large and one small tub. To me the small tub stacks perfectly inside the large tubs upside down lid. So I get home and notice I done fucked up can you take a guess how by looking at the picture?

Yup the big tubs lid is missing the damn blue gasket!!! It'll be a simple go back to the store and get a proper lid but that's a hassle imho so do you think I even need the gasket would the lid without gasket cause too much air exchange during the colonization stage?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: more4u2c]
#24901585 - 01/09/18 07:12 PM (6 years, 20 days ago) |
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Its fine
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Nobler Hino
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ShrooMonkey]
#24901853 - 01/09/18 08:52 PM (6 years, 20 days ago) |
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ShrooMonkey said: After watching the substrate colonize nicely, forming a very nice and dense knotting, pinning has started. It's quite uneven though. The bottom right corner is about 4 days behind in time and growth. I'm wondering what parameter is causing this. FAE is quite even as the lid has the same crack all around the lid, misting is done as even as possible. The only thing I can think of is the temperature. The less developed corner is pointing towards a door.. its winter here and very cold.. a mild cold draft might be the culprit ? This would make sense right? Also this corner is slightly more wet on the surface and lost of condensation water from the tub walls dripping down.. refraining from misting it and considering using paper towel to gently remove the water as there's risk of puddling..
And what would typically cause this sector just left off the center to be so ahead?
Jan 9th:

Detail of bottom right:

If this bottom right corner is colder and (way) more humid would this discourage speed of pinning like I see? I dont think its my substrate as its well mixed..
Hoping for feedback,
Monk
thats a pretty nice pinset man, good work.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Nobler Hino]
#24903728 - 01/10/18 06:25 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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First unmodded MS looking like a batch of shorties
-------------------- beep boop
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